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A Haunted Retreat
By Diane Browning
Correspondent
LOGAN CANYON—Maybe it is a legend. Maybe it isn’t. But some of the locals here in Cache Valley believe that St. Anne’s retreat in Logan Canyon is haunted.
The particular details vary, but a general theme repeats among the different versions—the area is frequented by the ghost of a nun.
In broad daylight, St. Anne’s retreat looks innocent enough. A carefully maintained set of cabins with their window covered with shutters, St. Anne’s grounds include rock-lined pathways and manicured lawns. It is the kind of place to seek out in order to “get away from it all” and to find some peace in the forested hillside.
In addition to the cabins, there is a main lodge on the property and a small swimming pool. Overall, there is nothing particularly ominous about the setting—in broad daylight.
But according to legend, St. Anne’s, which had been used in the past as a retreat for nuns, is haunted:
One version holds that one of the nuns had been raped and murdered at the retreat at the retreat. Another version holds that a nun had given birth to a child while at St. Anne’s and had drowned the baby in the swimming pool.
Regardless of which happened—if either ever actually did—the ghost of a nun was born.
According to Nancy Bodily of Logan, local high school students used to travel up to St. Anne’s at night “mainly just to scare each other.”
Bodily never saw the ghost. But she said legend has it that a nun comes out of the woods accompanied by two white Doberman pinschers with red eyes.
“If you see the nun,” Bodily says, “and if you’re a first-born son, it means you are going to die.”
The nun has been said to appear along the road going through Logan Canyon. And the danger of seeing her there is just as great for first-born sons as of seeing her at St. Anne’s, Bodily says.
“If you’re coming down the canyon,” Bodily says, “she’ll appear out of nowhere.”
The lodge at St. Anne’s also is haunted. According to the legend, a person who tries to spend a night in the lodge will be “bodily disturbed.” No further details were provided.
“It’s just one of t hose things you talk about when you’re a teenager,” Bodily says about the St. Anne’s ghost. “I would imagine that the legend still lives on.”
A note to the adventuresome: St. Anne’s is located on private property and is patrolled regularly by a night watchman.
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Cache Magazine/Herald Journal newspaper article by Diane Browning (1986) talks about "A Haunted Retreat," otherwise known as St. Anne's Retreat.
A Haunted Retreat
By Diane Browning
Correspondent
LOGAN CANYON-Maybe it is a legend. Maybe it isn’t. But some of the locals here in Cache Valley believe that St. Anne’s retreat in Logan Canyon is haunted.
The particular details vary, but a general theme repeats among the different versions-the area is frequented by the ghost of a nun.
In broad daylight, St. Anne’s retreat looks innocent enough. A carefully maintained set of cabins with their window covered with shutters, St. Anne’s grounds include rock-lined pathways and manicured lawns. It is the kind of place to seek out in order to “get away from it all” and to find some peace in the forested hillside.
In addition to the cabins, there is a main lodge on the property and a small swimming pool. Overall, there is nothing particularly ominous about the setting-in broad daylight.
But according to legend, St. Anne’s, which had been used in the past as a retreat for nuns, is haunted:
One version holds that one of the nuns had been raped and murdered at the retreat at the retreat. Another version holds that a nun had given birth to a child while at St. Anne’s and had drowned the baby in the swimming pool.
Regardless of which happened-if either ever actually did-the ghost of a nun was born.
According to Nancy Bodily of Logan, local high school students used to travel up to St. Anne’s at night “mainly just to scare each other.”
Bodily never saw the ghost. But she said legend has it that a nun comes out of the woods accompanied by two white Doberman pinschers with red eyes.
“If you see the nun,” Bodily says, “and if you’re a first-born son, it means you are going to die.”
The nun has been said to appear along the road going through Logan Canyon. And the danger of seeing her there is just as great for first-born sons as of seeing her at St. Anne’s, Bodily says.
“If you’re coming down the canyon,” Bodily says, “she’ll appear out of nowhere.”
The lodge at St. Anne’s also is haunted. According to the legend, a person who tries to spend a night in the lodge will be “bodily disturbed.” No further details were provided.
“It’s just one of t hose things you talk about when you’re a teenager,” Bodily says about the St. Anne’s ghost. “I would imagine that the legend still lives on.”
A note to the adventuresome: St. Anne’s is located on private property and is patrolled regularly by a night watchman.
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Undergraduate assignments from introductory folklore classes where students are assigned the task of collecting stories about St. Anne's Retreat.
Legend
"St. Anni s Retreat"
Natalie Hamson
Logan, Utah
April, 1984
Natalie is twenty-one years old. She has lived in the Cache Valley all her life.
She is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She was Natalie
Boehme before marrying Dale Hamson in 1979. She's been married four years and has a
daughter that is two years old.
Dale and Natalie were at our home watching television when Natalie first told my
husband and me this story. Natalie said that she had been a sophombre at Sky View High
School when she first heard it. After I heard the story I was really interested in the
retreat, but not totally convinced the story was true. Since that time I have heard many
other Cache Valley residents say that St. Anne's was haunted. Most of the people that
could tell me anything about St. Anne's had lived in the Cache Valley many years or all
their lives. St. Anne's is a Catholic Retreat that is located up Logan Canyon.
The story that Natalie told me was that a male friend of hers and a bunch of other
guys went up to St. Anne's one night to see if it really was haunted. They took with them
loaded shotguns, rifles, and pistols. They were exploring around the place and saw
some dogs. The dogs were Doberman Pinchers and when they saw the group of men,they be,
an barking at them. ~he dogs started chasing the men ready to attact~ The men
started firing at the dogs with their guns, but the dogs wouldn't drop. The dogs· chased
the men back to their truck. The men jumped in and left St. Anne's Retreat.
Natalie told me that she knew other people who refuse to go to Sto Anne's because
of the stories they have heard about it. Shei;aY's ·there"are other's'tories of visitors
seeing St. Anne walking along a cliff with a lantern for a light, then just vanishing.
Natalie also told me that she would like to visit St. Anne's some time, but not at night.
She said that last summer there was some kind of a Catholic childrens overnight meeting
at the retreat, and that you wouldn't catch her up there overnight because she believes
the stories she has heard.
Marion Dart
Logan, Utah
Pasco, WA
Utah &tate University
Intro. to Folklore
Spring, 1984
Urban Legend
"Disappearing Babies"
Informant Datal
Betty Warner
Logan, Utah
January 21, 1987
Betty Warner was born c;n January 31 1963, in Logan Utah. She
grew up in a near by town called Smithfield. She now resides in 10gan
and is attending USU. She is an active member of the LDS church
and is working as a Nurses Aid at Sunshine Terrace Rest Home.
Contextual Datal
This story was heard during a childcare class at Sky View High School.
We were all working on quiet books and to pass the time we were telling
stories of things that had happened to us or our friends.
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I once heard of some kids from HIyum that went up to the old
Catholic Nunnery in Logan Canyon. There was three boys and three
girls. It was really late at night when they went, the guys had wanted
to really scare their girlfriends. They got out. of their car, walked
down the path towards the Nunnery. Along the way was a couple of ponds,
When they walked past the ponds little hands reached up.·and grabbed
all of them around the ankles. They were all so scared that they took
off running back to the' car. Some of the guys started asking around
as to why this happened. An old Pr ist that lives here in the valley
told them that when there were people from the church living there,
some of the Nuns became pregnant. by the Priests. The Nuns would carry
the baby to full termJand then to save the Church from embarrassment,
they would drown their babies in the ponds. When strangers enter
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them, they try and pull themsel~ out of the water to keep from drowning.
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Betty Wa..-rner
Logan, Utah
January21, 1987
Betty Warner was born on January 31,1963, in Logan Utah. She
grew up in Smithfield, Utah. She now resides in Logan and is attending
USU. She is an active member of the LDS church and is working at
The Sunshine Terrac, Rest Home.
Contestual Datal
This story was heard while my child care class in high school
was working on their quiet books. For entertainment we would pass
time by telling stories.
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I once heard of some girls that went to girls scout camp up
Logan cany:on, a few years ago. There was about 12 girls plus a few
leaders. The girls were between the ages of tweleve and fifteen.
They were 6i tUng around the campfire telling ecarey stories, one of which
was the "Old Nun" story. This story is about an old nun that died
very angry that she had lost her youth and beauty. She had resided at
the nunnery, also in Logan canyon. Before she died, the nun would
walk past the girls scout camp and long for the days of her youth.
She became so obsessed by this idea that she decided . by drinking
the youths blood she would again be young. Well, the kids of the camp
tried to laugh off their fear not wanting to admit to apy.one that they
really were scared. The group broke up after the story telling finished
and went their seperate ways. The leaders of the camp became increasingly
concerned as the girls began to disappear one by one. They called
and hunted for the missing girls not getting any response at all.
A couple of girls from the camp had gone on a walk together. Suddenly
they came running back into the camp screaming and shaking terribly.
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The girls reported seeing an old lady dressed as a nun, with an
ax and blood dripping from her face walking near the camp. The next day
when the sun came up six of the tweleve girls were found murdered around
camp •
Betty Warner
Logan, Utah
Utah State University
History 124
Winter Quarter 1987
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"St. Anne's Retreat"
Informant Data:
Unknown
1976
High School friends from Sky View High School, Smithfield,
Utah.
Contextual Information:
Myself and some friends from Sky View High School were dragging
Main Street in Logan. We decided to drive up Logan Canyon because
someone had heard that there was a pla'ce up there that was haunted.
All teenagers are interested in haunted houses or buildings.
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While driving up the canyon, someone told the story about
how a nun had become pregnant while staying at St. Anne's Retreat
for nuns. When the other nuns found out about what had happened, they
told the unfortunate young girl that she could no longer be a nun.
The young girl was distraught.
That night the girl took an ax and killed everyone. When
she was done she drowned herself in the swimming pool.
Her ghost is thought to still be wandering the area, haunting
St. Anne's Retreat forever.
Scott Lambert
Logan, Utah
Utah State University
English 124
Winter Qtr. 1987
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"The Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Jalyn Rinderknecht
Logan, Utah
January 21, 1987
Jalyn Rinderknecht was born January 16,1968 in Logan, Utah. She is a
member of the L.D.S Q1urch and is partly an active member. She attends
Utah State University and is majoring in Pre-veterinary Science. Her
hobbies include horseback riding, skiing, fishing, hunting, camping,
animals and rodeo.
Contextual Data:
On our way up to the Nunnery in Logan Canyon everyone was telling
stories about what had happened when they went up last. This story was
one told.
One night a couple of my friends and I came up here to check the
Nunnery out. We psyched ourselves out so bad that we were a little
scared when we got there.
Walking toward the Nunnery we heard dogs barking from the distance
and a scream. It had been said that this nun used to kill the first
son of the family and little babies.
We heard another scream and decided we'd better get out of there, so
we ran back to our car but when we tried to start it we couldn't get it
to turn over. Feeling really scared, we took off down the canyon and
came back the next day to get the car. When we got there it started
like a charm.
Jalyn Rinderknecht
Logan, Utah
Utah Sta~e University
Winter Quarter 1986-87
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Martin Mendenhall
Logan, Utah
April 22, 1984
I don't know where Martin was born, but he has lived a good part of his
life in Cache Valley. He is going to school at Utah State University majoring
in Food Science, he is presently a Junior. He comes from a religious background
and is a mormon. He married my best friend, and they have now been married for
1 year. Me and my boyfriend used to double date with them quite often . He is
the second child of 4. His hobbies include, snow and water skiing, and all outdoor
activities and sports
Contextual Data:
This story was told to me on another double date with Martin . This was
told on one particular night after visiting the nunery up Logan Canyon . It
had been quite a frightful evening.
Text:
This story starts like this . . .• ....
A long time ago, there was a building called3 a convent where nuns lived. For many
years it was a very holy place, and only practices of good were taken place.
The nun's were forbidden to see any men and were to stay virgins. Things began
to get out of hand and the nun's began sleeping around, after which a few
became pregnant. If they were ever found out it would become a disgrace to that
individual. Therefore they began giving themselves abortions. In the convent
there was a swimming pool that had been emptied of all its water . This is where
they would bury the aborted babies. The problem finaly got out of hand and
they closed it down. But, because of the evil that went on there it is now
haunted with all kinds of spirits, and you can hear them to this day if you dare
to visit.
Michelle Sampson
Nibley, UT 84321
Utah State University
English 124
Spring Quarter 1984
April 22, 1984
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Logan , Utah
Fe buary 1985
Legend
The old Nunery
Informant data:
Diane Stenquist was born in Tremonton, Utah. She is of
Swedish decent. She is now attending Utah State University
where she is a senior in bussiness. She is a member
of the Mormon church.
Contextual data:
Text:
Diane and I were on our way skiing one day, up at
Beaver Moutain and as we passed this area she told
me this story.
She says she heard this story alot while she was growing
up, the big kids always told the little kids this
story to scare them.
There is an old nunery up Logan Oayon. Years and
years ago the nuns were sent up here who got prenant
by the priests so no one eles would find out about
thier indiscreations. There was a main house were
everone would meet and there were also four smaller
house were they would sleep. And there was also a
big swimming pool. And as soon as the babies are
born the babies were to be drowned in the pool.
Now this is an old and deserted, but if you go
there at night you can still here the babies cry. ;
Natalie Harman
Utah Stste University
Folklore
Spring 1985
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St. Anne's Retreat
Larry Cantwell
Smithfield, Utah
Approx. 1979
Larry Cantwell is the speech teacher at Sky View High Schoo1. He loves
stories, and one of his hobbies is to go around the Valley to different
groups and share his talent. He does a marvelous imitation of Mark Twain.
He tells great ghost stories, and has many humorous readings. He is active
in the L.D.S. Church, and communtiy affairs.
One day in Speech, we turned the lights off and got out a candle and
lit it, and told ghost stories. Mr. Cantwell told us this version of St.
Anne's Retreat.
St. Anne's Retreat was originally established up Logan Canyon for
Cache Valley's Catholic nuns who needed to "get away" from things for awhile.
One nun got herself in trouble and as time passed her problem became
more noticeable. He superiors knew that something needed to be done-- she
couldnlt walk the streets in her condition, so she was sent to St. Anne's
for the duration-. 6f" · her:~ pr~gnam::::y.
The Mother Superior at St. Anne's talked this nun into putting up the
baby for adoption when it was born, because she thought this sort of thing
was horrible. If the nun would agree to do as the Mother Superior said,
the Mother Superior would help her. If not, then she could fend for herself.
Well, as time went by and this nun spent her time reading, thinking,
swimming in the pool, and walking around the retreat and in the nearby woods,
she began to think of this child and knew she could never give it up. She
decided to leave the order and raise her baby.
When the baby was born she told her decision to the Mother Superior.
The Mother Superior did not agree and felt that she had to end this situation.
One day when this nun was sleeping, the Mother Superior took the baby and
drowned him in the swimming pool.
The nun took it very hard, but couldn't believe the Mother Superior
would actually do this. She thought the Mother Superior had taken the baby
and given him to a family, or was hiding him on the retreat somewhere.
As she was recovering, she would take walks around the retreat to see
if she could find her baby. As she walked by the pool one day, the Mother
Superior pushed her in and she drowned. The Mother Superior thought she
had rectified the problem, and now could live with herself after taking care
of this nun.
About three weeks later another nun was sent to St. Anne's to rest and
re~ax for a couple weeks. One day as she was walking past the swimming pool
she saw a nun floating face down in the pool. She screamed, and the Mother
Superior came to see what the problem was. The Mother Superior tried to grab
at the nun in the pool, but the nun disappeared.
The second nun wanted to know what had happened, but the Mother Superior
would not say anything. The second nun called the Father and told him to come
up to St. Anne's because there was something wrong.
the Father came and got to the bottom of what had happened and soon after,
the Mother Superior was taken from St. Anne's. Shortly after this happened,
the Catholic church sold St. Anne's Retreat.
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St. Anne I s is still used as a get away place for various groups and there
have been reports that the one nun is still looking for her baby. Some have
seen her walking around the retreat, and some have seen her floating in
the pool. While there are no reports of anyone talking to this nun, there
are plenty of reports of people who have seen her, so as you go camping
in this part of Logan Canyon, beware of the nun.
Alenda Jolley
Providence, Utah
Utah State University
English 124
Winter 1984
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St. Anne's Retreat
Alenda Jolley
Logan Canyon
approx. 1976
Alenda was born in Logan in 1963. She lived ~n Logan for a couple years,
then moved South of Logan to Providence where she has lived for fourteen years.
She is active in the L.D.S. Church, and community affairs. She loves the
outdoors and has spent many hours in io9an Canyon hunting, fishing, camping,
and enjoying nature.
When I was ~n mutual, my ward took all the youth leaderships up to
St. Aime' s Retreat for a leadership meeting. We spent two days and one night
at the retreat. Just before dark the leaders took us on a hike to a meadow
overlooking St. Anne's. There was a cave on the cliff above us. In this
setting one of the leaders told us this story.
St. Anne's Retreat is the place where all the Catholic Nuns came for
a little rest and relaxation. There was cabins, the beauty and recreation
facilities of the canyon, and a swimming pool. All the Nuns loved this place.
On the cliff to the East of St. Anne's is a cave where a hermit lived.
This hermit hated people and he hated nuns worst of all. He devised d
plan where if he killed off a few nuns at a time, no more WDuld come up to
the retreat because they would be too scared.
This hermit came down to St. Anne's on a particularly dark night and
caught a nun unaware as she was going from the lodge to her cabin. He
dragged her to the swimming pool and drowned her.
This happened about three more times before higher officials got word
of what was happening. A search was made for the hermit, but he COUldn't
be found.
The Catholic church got spooked and sold St. Anne's so there WOUldn't
be anymore nuns in Logan Canyon.
There were reports of two or three other people killed in the same
manor while using St. Anne's.
The hermit was never found, and it is said that he still haunts St.
Anne's and neghboring campgrounds, so be careful when staying in this part
of the canyon.
Alenda Jolley
Providence, Utah
utah State University
English 124
Winter 1984
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Mary Leisa Pp.ters en
Hyrum, Utah
February, 1979
Mary Leisa Petersen, 20, grew up in Hyrum, Utah, a small Mormon town.
She is of Danish and Swedish decent. She is the first child of a Mormon
family, and she is a active member of the Mormon Church. Presently,
she is a Lambda Delta Sigma Chapter president. A junior at Utah State
University majoring in Elementary Education.
Background:
Terry Hansen of Logan told Mary Leisa this story to entertain her (or
to scare her, she didn't know which it was) in 1976 while on a ride
through the Logan Canyon one night.
After Mary Leisa told this story to me she said," It's a good scarey
story but I sure don't believe it."
I have tried to record it as closely to the way she told me as possible.
Text:
During the past summers Nuns lived in this old house in Logan Canyon.
But before it was a Nunnery it was haunted. And before it was haunted
a very wealthy man and his wife bought it and fixed it up and lived
in it.
The winters were really harsh so the man always took his wife in their
horse and buggy to town to shop.
Many years passed and her husband died. The towns people wanted her to
move into town but she wouldn't. So at first the towns people took
turns on a irregular schedule bringing her into shop. After awhile
nobody s topp ed by to bring her into town and she was more or less forgotten
about. Then one day the towns people started wondering about
her, so a couple of men went out to check on her. They found the doors
open and the house dusty and filled ~vith cobwebs, but she was nowhere
to be found. ' Outside · th~ house they found some tiriy footprints, but not
her, so they boarded up the house.
Years passed and the house also was forgotten. Then one day late in
the fall, during the first snowfall, two hunters ran across it while
looking for a place to camp the night. They unboarded the house and
entered. Then one of the hunters went outside to get some fire wood
while the other hunter stayed in and cleaned the fireplace out so
they could build a fire. As the hunter outside was chopping wood he
heard a very loud, horrid screem from the house. He quickly ran to
the house and as he entered the only one there was his hunting partner
die on the floor with a clever in his back. He ran out and as
he did he heard someone in the bushes crying. He looked down ._and there
jn the snow. he saw 'some tiny footprints. Without looking any further
he ran frantically to the highway for help.
Bonnie Vance
Logan, Utah
Mapleton, Utah
Winter, 1979
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"Saint Ann's Retreat"
Informant Data:
Maria Nielsen
Hyrum, Utah
July, 1984
Maria Nielsen, 21, lives in Hyrum, Utah. She was born February
21, 1963, in Logan, Utah. She is a Senior at Utah State Univeristy,
majoring in Elementary Education. She is an active member of the
Mormon church. She is married to Clayton Nielsen.
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I can not member who told this story to me. The story was told
to me just before I visited Saint Ann's Retreat. I remember it was
a very dark night and I was with my boy friend and three other
couples. I'm a scardy cat anyway and after I heard this story I
was scared to death to go into Saint Anns. I don't really believe
the story is true but it scared me just the same. I could imagine
some crazy man jumping out of the bushes with a big knife and killing
all of us. I decided if there was one place a mad man would hang
out to kill somebody it would be at Saint Ann,s. One thing waB sure,
I was not going to stay in the car by my self, so I went with the
others to explore this place. Nothing happened to us, but I was sure
glad when we finally pulled away from that place in our car.
Saint Ann's is about fifteen minutes up Logan Canyon.
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A long time ago there used to be a nunnery at Saint Ann's.
One of the nuns got pregnant by a young priest. She hid the fact
that she was pregnamt for a long time. When she had the baby she was
told she had to leave the nunnery. She was grieved at what had happened
and went out and drowned her baby in the swimming pool, thp.n hung
herself. Her spirit haunts the place in the form of a dog. Sometimes
people can hear dogs howling at Saint Ann's. Nobody has ever seen
the dogs.
Maria Nielsen
Hyrum. Utah
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Utah State Unlverity
English 124
Summer 1984
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"The Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Jimmy west
Nibley, Utah
April, 1988
Jimmy west is a High school senior who enjoys anything
that has a challenge to it. He hung around the guys the night
they went to the nunnery, but no longer associates with them.
He loves the outdoors and hates school. He works for the Bishop
in the ward and comes from a gigantic family as he put it.
Contextual Data:
I told Jimmy I WaS doing this for my folklore class and I
asked him if he could remember the story as if he were there that
day. We were sitting outside on the front porch steps as he
related the story.
Text:
Last summer we did travel up to the nunnery to find out if
you looked in this mirror you would see the ghost, supposedly
green. I didn't travel inside so I never found out anything, but
the guys who did go in came running back to the car screaming,
"Let's go!" "It's behind us!" The car wouldn't start at all,
everyone was screaming and panicking, then all of a sudden it
started. The whole thing was weird. As were driving away we
felt a bump on the back of the car. The next morning I went over
to see what it was and a big long black mark was on the car.
Sherry Anderson
Nibley, Utah 84321
USU
Folklore
Spring 1988
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Supernatural Legend
"The Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Clint Yonk
Nibley, Utah
April, 1988
Clint Yonk was a classmate in High School. We both
graduated in 1987 from Mountain Crest High. He workd for Bourns
during the afternoons. He enjoys going to late night shows.
He's from an active LOS family, and he loves the outdoors.
Contextual Data:
We were sitting in a movie theatre going to watch the Midnight
movie. I asked Clint to tell me the story about when he and
a few others went up to the nunnery. I had heard the story
before in a Sunday School Class after it happened. I was just
interested in if it had changed any since then.
Text:
A couple of friends told me this story. They went up to the
nunnery located in Logan Canyon during the summer last year. It's
said that if you go into the surrounding area, a ghost will chase
you out. A whole group went up to find out if this was true or
not. Two of the guys were the only ones that had decided to go.
They were running back to the car and the car wouldn't start up
than all of a sudden it started. Everyone was screaming, "Let's
go!" As they were driving away they felt a bump on the back of
the car. The next morning there was a big long scratch that
looked like something had been dragging on to the car. They
swore to never do that again.
Sherry Anderson
Nibley, Utah 84321
USU
Folklore
Spring 1988
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"Killer Nuns"
Informant Data:
Sally Drollinger
Richmond, Ut
April 3, 1988
Sally Drollinger is twenty-four years old. She was
born in California but moved to Richmond when she was small.
There she attended grade school through high school. She
is single and lives with three of the good friends she grew
up with. Sally came from a family of eight children. When
they were young, their father would tell them stories. From
this experience, Sally learned to love listening to and
telling stories.
Contextual Information:
Sally heard this story when she was in junior high.
She and her friends were at a slumber party where ghost
stories were being told. This was her favorite scary story
about the nunnery in Logan canyon.
Text:
There was this nunnery up Logan canyon. Nuns use to go
there for religious schooling. Then it was closed because
of not enough money to keep it in shape. So, the nuns were
divided up among other convents. There was this one convent
that wasn't too far away. Somehow the nuns that went there
were getting pregnant. These nuns were sent back to the L
Logan nunnery to have their babies. After they had them,
the nuns would throw them into the swimming pool to kill
them. Now when you go up there at night you can hear the
babies crying out.
Valerie Drollinger
Logan, Ut
Spartanburg, SC
Utah State
History 124
Spring 1988
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"Cry of Babies"
Informant Data:
George May
Richmond, Ut
April 5, 1988
George May is twenty-three years old. She was born and
raised in Richmond, Ut. She received all of her schooling
there. She is single and lives with Sally and two other
girls she grew up with. She has two younger sisters, one of
which still loves to sit around and tell ghost stories at
night.
Contextual Information:
George is the girl at the slumber party Sally went to
who told the story about the nunnery in Logan. She learned
about the nunnery when she and some of her friends wanted to
go camping over night in the canyon. Her father told this
story to her.
Text:
Up Logan canyon there was this nunnery. Everyone knew
it wasn't a normal nunnery because the nuns that went there
were pregnant. Yet, when they left, the nuns didn't have a
baby with them. There were all kinds of speculation about
what happened to the babies. Most of the people figured
that the nuns threw their babies over the cliffs because
they could hear the cries of the babies as they were falling
You can still hear them if you go up there at night.
Valerie Drollinger
Logan, Ut
Spartanburg, SC
Utah State Univ.
History 124
Spring 1988
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"Dead Babies"
Informant Data:
Gordon May
Richmond, Ut
April 7, 1988
Gordon May is fifty years old. He was born in Smithfield
and moved to Richmond after he was married. He has
been married for twenty-five years and has three daughters.
Gordon works at USU in the engineering dept. He enjoys his
work and is a good mechanic.
Contextual Information:
Gordon May heard this story about the nunnery from a
man he worked with. One day everyone was talking about
things that Logan was kind od historical for and this came
up. He told this story to his daughter to scare her from
going camping instead of saying "NO" again.
Text:
There's this nunnery up Logan canyon. It was a kind of
hideout for pregnant nuns. They would stay there until they
had their babies. After these babies were born, the nuns
would take them and kill them. They did this by throwing
them over the cliffs or down in hidden tunnels. These babes
still cry out at night and their spirits seek revenge on
anyone that goes to the nunnery.
Valerie Drollinger
Logan, UT
Spartanburg, SC
Utah State Univ.
History 124
Spring 1988
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Saint Ann"s Retreat
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Date of Bi r-th:
Place Gf Bir-t.ti~
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Education:
Occupation:
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Church Membership:
CiHlt-Cf. Activity:
i1ark LeBar-on
08/05/68
Logarl; Utah
Logan J' tJ"Lah
4/-12/-1987
European(German. Swedish. French, English)
Public high school education
Student (Utah State university)
Music. Sports & Athletics
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Very Active
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The following legend is one of those stories that one often
hears, but can't remember from whom or where he heard it first.
I do know that there are several versions of this story.
below is the one I have hear tne most. The story concerns an old
local nunnet-y Dr retreat for catholic nuns known as Saint
complex is now used for youth summer camps
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to the stOFy I heard. a young nun named Hekida,
who is residing in the retreat. becomes pregnant (nobody ever
says by who). Hekida is hated by the other nuns because of the
shame she has brought upon her office. When the child is born,
Hekida throws the child off a cliff and kills herself in the same
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the child"s grave and that the spirits of Hekida and her
haunt the grounds between midnight and one o' ciock a.m.
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TITLE: ST. ANN'S RETREAT
Jamie Smi th
Kamas, Utah 84036
CONTEXT:
Jamie Smith
Logan, Utah
4-22-87
We were sitting around telling ghost stories. Jamie told us
about something that happened to her friends up Logan canyon. It
was at a place called St. Ann's Retreat. The following story is
written in the manner in which it was told.
STORY:
The legend says that one of the nuns who lived there became
pregnant. Well, the other nuns let her have the baby but made her
drown it once it was born. As a result of the baby been drowned,
the mother went batty and killed herself. After all of this
stuff happened, they closed the nunnery but her ghost still
remains.
This happened to some friends of mine, James
These guys went up up there to set up this deal.
to take these girls and get them scared. So they
all these rocks so when someone tripped the wire,
and Roger.
They were going
went up and set
all of these
rocks would come flying down. They went into the convent and set
things up in it.
Later that night, they brought the girls up. Someone tripped
on the wire but instead of little rocks falling, a big huge
boulder came rolling down. Well, this really scared them so they
decided to go check things in the convent. They went into the
convent and the door slammed behind them and locked. They had to
bust the boards off of a window to get out of there. After all of
this happened, they just picked up and left.
The next day, after everything had happened up a St. Ann's,
they decided to go back in daylight. The rope that had been set
up was cut and all the little rocks had been moved aside. They
couldn't see how the boulder was moved: it hadn't been there the
day before. All they know is that boulder rolled down at them.
Well one night, they were going to take us up there. One of the
guys swore he would never go up there again. He is all buff about
it--a jock you know-- but it scared him shitless.
MY NAME:
Debbie Jenkins
S.L.C. Utah 84121
Utah State University
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Spring 1987
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Legend
Saint Anne's Retreat
Informant Data:
Kris Harris
Logan Utah
October 1981
Kris Harris,21, was born in Logan Utah, but moved to Newport Beach
California when she was seventeen. Her religious background is Mormon,
but she is not a practicing Mormon. Kris is single and attends Orange
Coast College where she is studying commercial art. At the time she
told me this legend, she was really into sppoky stories, and loved to
tell them at parties and social gatherings. Kris has a talent for telling
stories or jokes at the best possible times.
Contextual Data:
When Kris told me this legend, we were up the canyon drinking beers with
about 5 other people. There were no boys with us because once a week it
would be the "girls iiight out." As we were drinking, we started telling
scary stories or scary experiences we had or had heard. When it was
Kris's turn to tell a story, she asked if any of us had heard about Saint
Anne. None 0tlhad heard the legend, so she said she would drive us to
the place where the legend actually happened. We went to a Eatholic
retreat about 3 miles up Logan canyon. There is a swimming pool in the
back and ~ris made us sit on the diving board while she told her story.
We were pretty scared by now, since it was dark out and the old buildings
were really creepy. Kris told us that her Aunt's friend wen to the Retreat
1 year after Saint Anne, and Catholic priests had to
there were evil spirits there. Kris's mom told her tnt;...--±-c~
wouldn't go up there to drink and mess around.
After she told us the legend, we were so scared that we coul~~move
off:.the diving board. Finally we ran back to the car and locked all the
doors and drove back to Logan. I have never been up there again, and
I doubt any of the others have either.
Item:
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which locals call Saint Anne's Retreat. Saint Anne was a nun living at the
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tell anyone she was pregnant, but one of the sisters found out and asked
Saint Anne how she became pregnant. Since Saint Anne was a virgin, the
other sister assumed it was a child of the devil, and God was punishing
Saint Anne by making her pregnant. The other sister sooned moved to another
Retreat, leaving Saint Anne and her secret pregnancy unknown. One night
in August, Saint Anne had her baby, She took it and wrapped it in sheets and
threw it into the swimming pool. When the other sisters found the baby, it
was dead and Saint Anne was gone. Now, if you go to the ~etreat in August,
you can hear a baby crying. If you call for Saint Anne(usually three times)
she will come down from the mountains looking for her child. Sometimes
you can see her looking around the swimming pool, a ghostly shape wearing
a habit, calling for her poor little child.
Meridith Sorensen
Logan, Ut 84321
Logan, Ut 84321
Utah State University
History 124
Spring 1987
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"Wi tch Heckata"
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Myself
Logan, Utah
Winter 1990
I have llved in Logan, Utah most of my 11fe. I attended Logan High
School. I am a freshman at USU.
Contextual Information:
I heard this Legend in a class while attending High school. I was
in a psychology class; we were studying a unit on parapsychology.
Students were telling stories that they had heard from friends, relatives,
and from scouting camps that deal with the supernatural.
Text:
Near Saint Anne's retreat up in Logan Canyon there is a small
canyon. It is sai d if you go to thi s canyon around mi dni ght, wi th the moon
full in the night sky, and you call the name Heckata three times she will
appear. She is to come in a hooded black robe that whips in the wind. She
comes toward you 1 aug hi ng. She floats above the ground. I n her hands she
hold the hounds of hell. They are two large black dogs with eyes that glow
red w1th the flames of hell. She is angry at those who enter her canyon
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Nathan N1 ederhauser
Logan, Utah
USU
Engli sh/Hi story 124
Winter 1990
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Statue at St. Anne's Retreat
Informant Data:
Nancy Lloyd
Young Ward, Ut.
Nov. 2 , 1988
Nancy Lloyd was born in Logan, Utah and has lived here all her life except
two years in Idaho and 18 mont~in Ecuador, + a year in Provo at school.
She is a senior at U. S. U. majoring in English.
Context Data:
This story was usually told to her in situations like slumber parties,
walking home from late mutual activities and at girls camp .
Item:
At St. Anne's Retreat for nuns, in Logan Canyon, there is a very strange
statue. If touched at the right moment, 12:00 midnight, it will be warm,
as if it were alive.
Matthew Lloyd, 18
Young Ward, Ut. 84339
Utah State University
English 124
Fall 1988
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Local Legend
"Heckada"
Informant Data:
Rex Womack
Nibley, Utah
July 1980
Rex Womack is three years older than myself He lived in my LDS ward while I was growing up.
He was really a cool dude. He would hang out with us younger boys and bring us up to date on
what's hot and what's not. He was somebody that we all looked up to. He always had something
to say.
Contextual Data:
( We were at a camp out for our scout group and Rex was one of the junior leaders. We were up
Logan Canyon camping at the Girl Scout Camp up Right Hand Fork. We were in the little cabin
in our sleeping bags, just talking. Everyone was trying to scare each other with stories. Rex
succeeded.
Text:
About 40-50 years ago the winter came really early. So early that the deer hunt in October had 2-
3 feet of snow. Back during the 1930's, hunting deer was very popular because of the meat.
People would kill a deer and store the meat for use in the winter months. This one man went out
to get his winter meat for his family. He headed up towards Spring Hollow by Third Dam up
Logan Canyon. He went up early in the morning as most hunters do. He was expected back
around 3:00 or 4:00 at the latest. He was known to be a great hunter and always shot a deer early
and was home by 3 :00 p.m. On this snowy hunting day he didn't make it home. His wife went up
to look for him that night but no body was found. She went back into Logan to get help, but
nobody would go out in the blizzard. She refused to leave her mate up in the snowy mountains so
she went home and got her dogs. She took them up the canyon with her to Spring Hollow and
was never seen again, nor was her husband. If you go to third dam and look up into Spring
Hollow on a full moon and yell Heckada, Heckada, Heckada, you will hear her dogs barking, still
in search for her lost husband.
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Logan, Utah
USU
History 124
Summer 1995
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Dark and light clouds mingle over Logan Peak on a stormy summer afternoon.
Under the weather
Now I truly understand the meaning
the phrase: "Out in left field."
Shortly after deciding that the photographic
spread in this issue of Cache
Valley Magazine would be focused
upon the skies above our beautiful little
corner of the world, I found myself
trapped in the outfield during a city
league softball game. I say "trapped"
because from my vantage point along
the left-field line on a Willow Park diamond,
I had an amazing view of what
would prove to be the most majestic
rainbow of the year to my right, followed
shortly afterwards by the most
spectacular sunset of the summer to my
left. And I, of course, had failed to pack
my camera in my bat bag along with
my glove and cleats.
Less than a couple of months later,
I have no idea whether my team won
or lost that game. And it doesn 't really
matter, because to me, that evening will
always be regarded as a loss because I
missed out on a great photographic opportunity.
But that's kind of the way this summer
went for me. Everything was a little
bit off.
Where I would normally crave
blue skies, cloudless days and lots of
sunshine, the fact is that's rather ... well
... boring. To capture really compelling
6 Cache Valley Magazine
images of the sky, you need things in the
atmosphere to be a little bit mixed up.
A rainstorm not only creates rainbows
and lightning and towering cloud
formations, it also removes haze from
the valley, and the water in the air
makes for more vibrant sunsets. And
knowing that led me on more than
few occasions to complain out loud to
friends and relatives when looking over
a weather forecast that showed nothing
but bright little orange suns.
Fortunately, with that assignment
now completed, I can now take both
eyes off the sky and return to normal
- that being primarily watching
the skies to see how the sun and the
clouds impact landscapes and subjects
on the ground. I can also spend more
time appreciating the early autumn
days in Cache Valley where high , deep
blue skies and lots of sunshine is the
norm.
But then again , a fall snowstorm is
always nice. After all , nothing's more
beautiful - and photogenic - than
white, pristine snow nestled upon bright
red , orange and yellow leaves.
I wonder what this week's weather
forecast is.
Jeff Hunter, editor
jhunter@hjnews.com
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VOLUME 7, NUMBER 8
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Six-year-old Trae Priestly of Weston chases after a balloon on the turf at Romney Stadium during Aggie Football Family Fun Day on Aug. 21.
Ags chasing victories
usu opens season with an eye on uncertain future
While overseeing the scrimmage in
the middle of Aggie Family Fun Day on
Aug. 21 , Utah State head football coach
Gary Andersen and his assistants donned
blue T-shirts emblazoned with the phrase
"All In" on the back. Although it's clear
that the Aggies where using a term more
commonly associated with Texas Hold
'Em to help inspire an all-out, team-wide
effort to excel during the 2010 season,
"All In" seemed a bit ironic following
the major gamble Utah State University
had taken earlier in the week.
In-state rival Brigham Young, in an effort
to leave the Mountain West Conference
and go independent in football and
8 Cache Valley Magazine
USU athletic director Scott Barnes answers
questions from the press after the scrimmage.
land elsewhere for its remaining sports,
put together a plan with Western Athletic
Conference commissioner Karl Benson,
USU President Stan Albrecht and Ag-gie
athletic director Scott Barnes that
would have greatly solidified the future
of the WAC and reinvigorated the rivalry
between the Aggies and Cougars.
Early reports on the morning of Aug. 18,
painted an extremely attractive picture
of a regular football series between USU
and BYU, as well as games between the
Cougars and other WAC schools.
The prospects were so thrilling that
some people predicted that gridiron powerhouse
Boise State might even back out
of its plan to leave for the Mountain West
- soon to be weakened by the loss of
University of Utah to the PAC-lO - and
return to a stronger WAC.
Clockwise from top left: Linebacker Jerome
Barbour pressures quarterback Diondre Borel.
A girl reacts to a big splash at the dunk tank.
Eric Moats hangs onto a touchdown pass despite
the efforts of cornerback Chris Randle.
Moats was then flagged after "putting" the
ball underneath Randle's knees. Ryan Bennett
watches as an Aggie signs his USU helmet.
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But before the late summer sun had
set over the Wellsville Mountains, Utah
State was already in the dark, having
been stunned by the announcement that
WAC fixtures Nevada and Fresno State
had received and accepted invitations to
join the Mountain West Conference earlier
in the day. Now looking at a WAC with
only six schools remaining, BYU started
to rethink its best-laid plans and promptly
backed off its return to the WAC.
That meant that Utah State, which had
also been invited to join the Mountain
West but turned the offer down in order
to live up to an agreement with the rest
of the WAC that it would stay together
for the next five years or be subject to a
$5 million penalty, was suddenly facing
a very bleak future.
After going "All In," the Aggies' big
gamble now had them on the outside
looking in. That's why before seeking
out Andersen for an interview after the
Aggie Family Fun Day Scrimmage, the
gathered members of the media first
swarmed around Barnes on the turf at
Merlin Olsen Field at Romney Stadium.
"We felt very confident in the alignment
we had, the security we had in WAC
members and BYU, and we thought that
was the very best next step for Utah
State athletics," Barnes said. "That has
gone away obviously for reasons you've
all heard. That said, every oar is in the
water; we are exploring all possibilities.
Our focus is on making the WAC better,
but that said, we need to look at every
opportunity that is out there."
A week-and-a-half later, BYU finally
announced that it was still going independent
in football, but rather than add
it's other athletic programs to the WAC,
it planned to join the West Coast Conference.
As this issue of Cache Valley
Magazine was going to press, the~future
home of Utah State athletics, whether it
be in a new-look WAC or another conference,
was still unsettled. But with the
2010 campaign about to begin on Sept.
4, at seventh-ranked Oklahoma, Andersen
was trying his best to keep his and his
team's focus on the task at hand.
"We will just take it as it falls and continue
to fight on," declared Andersen,
now in his second season at Utah State.
"We haven't talked about it as a team,
September 2010 9
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10 Cache Valley Magazine
nor will we because we are talking about
a thing that we have no control over, so
why do it?"
After going 3-5 in the WAC and 4-8
overall last season, most USU fans are
optimistic that Andersen has the Aggies
headed the right way. But while Utah
State boasts 20 returning starters and a
much deeper bench, two of last year's
bright spots, running back Robert Turbin
and wide receiver Stanley Morrison, are
both going to miss the entire season with
Aggie fans scramble for Rice Krispie treats
thrown into the stands at Romney Stadium.
injuries, and heralded new linebacker
Matt Ah You, who played at BYU in
2008, was recently shelved for the year
by a shoulder injury.
What Andersen does have is a senior
quarterback in Diondre Borel who put up
impressive numbers last season (23 total
touchdowns vs. only four interceptions)
with his arm and his legs; a stable of
dangerous running backs with different
skills in Michael Smith, Derrvin Speight
and Kerwynn Williams; and a handful
of defensive standouts like junior linebacker
Bobby Wagner, cornerback Chris
Randle, and local high school products
Levi Koskan and Junior Keiaho, who is
moving from defensive end to linebacker
this year.
Slated to finish fourth in the WAC this
season in the preseason coaches' poll, the
Aggies' schedule starts with the Sooners
and ends at Boise State on Dec. 4. In between
there's home games with Idaho
State (Sept. 11), Fresno State (Sept. 18),
Brigham Young (Oct. 1), Hawaii (Oct.
23), New Mexico State (Nov. 6) and
Idaho (Nov. 20). Although Utah State
hasn't finished with a winning record in
a decade-and-a-half, many feel that corner
is about to finally be turned this season,
even if USU's future beyond that
is extremely uncertain because of the
cloudy conference situation.
"Expectations are high, from all of (the
media) and from us," Borel said of the
coming season. "Probably higher from
us just because we're are trying to get to
a bowl game, so I think we are ready for
this year."
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September 2010 11
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Bryan Palmer's garden plot helps maintain green space along the U.S. Hwy. 89-91 corridor. Below, black-eyed Susans grown at the Wellsville farm.
So close you can taste it
Wellsville resident heads up successful community garden
A couple of women walk by Bryan
Palmer's produce stand at the Cache Valley
Gardeners' Market, pausing to check
out the buckets of flowers he has sitting
next to a table filled with vegetables.
There's yellow black-eyed Susans, blue
globe thistle and purple-and-white, daisy-
like echinaceas.
For five dollars, Palmer will pick
out more than two dozen of the flowers
and sell them as a giant bouquet, an
item many customers can't pass up each
week. Upon request, Palmer will sort
through the flowers that have been cut
fresh in the early morning hours, strip off
the leaves, clip the ends, then tie them
together for customers to take home.
Meanwhile, nearby at his produce table,
two of his teenage employees are help-
12 Cache Valley Magazine
ing customers purchase squash, melons
and egg plants.
Palmer, who started selling flowers at
the market 11 years ago, has been growing
them for more than two decades on
property he leases in Wellsville. What
began as a business selling dried wreaths
and bouquets has grown into Palmer's
Community Supported Agriculture
(CSA), which employs a dozen teenagers
in the summer and produces dozens
of different types of vegetables and about
a half-acre of flowers.
'The reason why we have the farm is
for the kids. That's the biggest reason,"
Palmer says. "A couple of them have
worked for us for probably five or six
years ."
Palmer says everything he earns from
the farm stays in Cache Valley and goes
toward paying his employees and buying
seeds and products from local gardening
stores such as Alpine Gardens,
Rudy's Greenhoouse and Anderson's
Seed and Garden. He and the tee nag-
ers are out in the five-and-a-half acres
of land he leases every day, whether
they're focused on weeding, watering,
planting or picking.
On Friday nights, they pick a lot of the
vegetables for the market, and on Saturday
mornings they are up before the sun
rises getting buckets ready to fill with
peppers and flowers . Palmer says it's
been a learning process throughout the
years and they try to grow new things
every summer. They are currently growing
squash, peppers, cucumbers and artichokes,
as well as 30 varieties of fallharvest
vegetables. Palmer expects they
will be picking right up until Thanksgiving
this year.
An Ogden native, Palmer lived in
California for several years, where he
says he and his family went to several
farmers ' markets that lasted year-round.
He commented on the various flowers
they would sell, the seafood and different
produce that was available. The markets
in California spurred the idea to sell
flowers in Cache Valley, which did well
at the market for several years until the
recession.
"With the economy, we really got into
fruit and veggies," Palmer says. "The
last two years have really been hard on
flower growers. We used to be able to
take our truck and trailer and fill it with
60-75 buckets of flowers and sell out in
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a couple of hours. We would have a huge
line. It would be like all day long ."
Now Palmer only sells a third of the
flowers he used to at the market. He says
his bouquets last a little longer than those
that can be purchased at the store because
the flowers are usually fresher. Bouquets
of roses, for example, normally take
three or four days before they reach the
customer, as they are shipped from Ecuador
to Miami, then on to Salt Lake and
Logan.
Currently the CSA can garden for about
eight months of the year, Palmer says,
but it's not like he can go too long before
thinking of the next garden. Catalogs
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germinating seed in a greenhouse, and by
the first part of April they are planting.
In the future Palmer hopes to lease two
more acres of land and put in an orchard
to grow fruit and nuts.
Retired after more than two decades
in the National Guard, Palmer says the
Army and his job at Alpine Gardens in
Brigham City pays his bills. The CSA is
Top, Palmer breaks open a small, yellow watermelon.
Above, blue globe thistle is one of
the types of flowers grown at the garden.
just a side-venture, a hobby mostly, that
gives back to Cache Valley.
"It's really their farm," he says, gesturing
toward the two teenage boys behind
the produce stand. "They help us on the
farm and then actually come pick on Friday
nights and come sell on Saturdays.
We try to grow a few different things every
year. You learn as you go."
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CALENDAR OF EVENTS
September 17·18
The Aggie women's volleyball team hosts
the Utah State Invitational over two days at
the Spectrum. The Aggies will take on Loyola
Marymount at 10 a.m. and Utah Valley at
7:30 p.m. on Friday, then play UC Riverside
at noon on Saturday. Call 797-0305.
September 18
The 2010 Nordic Track Top of Utah Marathon
begins at the Hardware Ranch in
Blacksmith Fork Canyon at 7 a.m. and ends
at Merlin Olsen Park in Logan. Spectators
can begin viewing the race at Mile 14 just
outside the mouth of the canyon, and the
awards ceremony is slated for 1 :15 p.m.
Visit www.topofutahmarathon.com.
September 18
Logan Dog Agility sponsors the Canine
Carnival and Fall Fun Run from 9 a.m. to 1
p.m. at the Cache County Fairgrounds. Call
(801) 710-1046 or visit www.fallfunrun.
blogspot.com.
September 18
The Utah State football team welcomes
WAC rival Fresno State to Romney Stadium.
Kickoff is slated for 6 p.m. Call 797-0305.
September 18·0ctober 30
The American West Heritage Center in
Wellsville presents a wide variety of autumn
and Halloween-themed activities through
the month of October, including a corn maze,
blackout maze, train rides, pony rides, super
slide, hay jump and kid's pirate hay fort. The
Haunted Hollow will also be scaring visitors
on Oct. 8-9, 15-16,22-23 and 29, for an admission
of $7. Call 245-6050 or visit www.
awhc.org.
September 24·25
The Bear 100 ultramarathon begins Friday
at 6 a.m. Mt. Logan Park in Logan and
winds along a 100-mile course through the
mountains until reaching the finish line in
Fish Haven, Idaho. Call 563-3647.
September 25
The Utah State women's soccer team faces
BYU at 4 p.m. at Bell Field. Call 797-0305.
September 30
The USU women's volleyball team plays
its first home conference match of the season
against Fresno State beginning at 7 p.m.
at the Spectrum. Call 797-0305.
October 1
The Utah State football team hosts instate
powerhouse BYU at Romney Stadium
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Left, one of the small cabins at Pine Glenn Cove
in Logan Canyon as it appears today. Top, child
actors present a play at the small amphitheatre
that used to sit on the grounds. Above, the interior
of the playhouse used as a child by L. Boyd and
Anne Hatch's daugther, Sydney.
Also known as
Hatch's Camp,
St. Anne's
Retreat and
'The Nunnery,'
the history of
the curious
collection of
buildings in
Logan Canyon
isn't nearly as
scary as you
may have heard
STORY & PHOTOS BY JEFF HUNTER
1- -- -- - -
Floyd OdIum was giving a speech
in Salt Lake City in 1955 before
the Conference on Intermountain
Industry when the wildly successful
businessman tried to playa small trick
on his audience.
"A fellow I have known quite well for
a long time took up his pen years ago
and wrote a rhyme about a certain spot
in Utah which was known as 'Hatch's
Camp,'" OdIum stated before reciting a
poem:
When I'm tired and sick and weary
Of the din of city strife
And am longing for the pleasures
Of a natural open life,
Ship me westward to the mountains,
Put me off at "Hatch's Place"
By the Logan in the Wasatch;
There my sorrows I'll efface.
There before the open fireplace
Or stretched out beneath the trees
I will listen to the music
Of the mountains and the breeze,
To the roaring of the waters,
To the song of melted snow
Until night has brought its shadows
And the sky all aglow
And then the shooting kisses
Of a mountain air so sweet
Will comfort me until I lapse
Into a blissful sleep.
"The author of those lines is here
with us tonight," OdIum then announced
before admitting, "In fact,
I'm that fellow. As poetry, it is a very
feeble attempt. But as an emotional
expression concerning a state I love, I
stand by it."
As the head of numerous, multi-million-
dollar corporations during his
career, including the Atlas Corporation,
RKO Pictures, Northeast Airlines,
Convair and Bonwit Teller, it's easy to
-envision the bespectacled OdIum behind
a wooden desk in a large office of a
skyscraper in New York City, putting his
thoughts down on paper, trying to drown
out the hustle and bustle of Manhattan
outside his window.
All the while wishing he could
abruptly replace the concrete-and-steel
canyons of Wall Street with the rock
cliffs and solitude of Logan Canyon.
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Top, a vintage image of the living room inside
the Hatch cottage. Above, a bedroom in a
cabin at Pine Glenn Cove. Right, Floyd Odium
poses for a photograph with his son, Bruce.
Could phrases like, "I will listen
to the music of the mountains
and the breeze," and "shooting
kisses of mountain air so sweet; will
comfort me until I lapse into a blissful
sleep" actually be referring to St. Anne's
Retreat? Surely generations of Cache
Valley teenagers and Utah State University
students would wholeheartedly
suggest otherwise.
After all, "The Nunnery," as it is often
called, is widely considered the scariest
place in the area, primarily because
of the frightening tales surrounding the
small collection of cabins eight miles
northeast of the mouth of Logan Canyon.
Among the many urban legends
that have been propagated since the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City
took possession of the property in 1958
is that nuns who had been raped by
priests then drowned their babies in the
swimming pool, and visitors to the site
can still hear the infants' cries at night.
Another story has two nuns fighting,
with one sister pushing the other into
the empty swimming pool. The fatal fall
leads to the dead nun returning to haunt
the sister who killed her, banging on her
door at night and laughing with glowing
red eyes when her murderer would look
outside. A nun searching for her stolen
golden arm, and another sister accompanied
by vicious dogs are also among the
ghost stories that have prompted many
people to tempt fate - or at least fight
off a little boredom - and sneak onto
the property late at night.
This Cache Valley tradition turned
')
into a real horror story for 38 teenagers
in 1997, when after crossing the bridge
over the Logan River and heading up the
road to the retreat, they were greeted by
three watchmen armed with shotguns.
The trespassers were then tied up in the
empty swimming pool and threatened by
the guards , who were later charged with
assault for their aggressive behavior.
At the time, the retreat, which sits on
2.85 acres of land leased from the U.S.
Forest Service, was owned by a group
of families who had grown weary of
vandals and trespassers, and many of
the buildings had fallen into disrepair.
But in 2006, the site originally known as
Hatch 's Camp was purchased by Chad
Top, the playhouse used by the Hatch daughters.
Above, the backdrop of the amphitheatre
included an ad for Bonwit Teller. Left, Bruce
Odium's wife sits on the edge of the pool.
Godfrey, a River Heights native who
now works in the health-care field in Salt
Lake City. Godfrey, who now refers to
the property by another of its old names
- Pine Glenn Cove - hopes to restore
as many of the structures as possible, or
at least sell the site to someone else who
can complete the project in the future .
"We're just in the very beginnings of
having it restored," Godfrey says. "About
all we've done so far is completely clean
everything out. I think we took about
28,000 pounds of junk out of there ."
While there are still "no tresspassing"
signs posted at the entrance to Pine Glenn
Cove, Godfrey did take down the barbed
wire that used to discourage visitors from
crossing the bridge. He also helped get
the site put on the National Register of
Historic Places in 2006, and Godfrey
says his hope is to one day host an "open
house and invite the entire valley."
"Once it's restored, we'll let people
come up and tour the whole thing for
three days," he insisted. "I think that
will pretty much turn off all the trespassing
and stuff because they'll see
how wonderful it is all made up."
But Godfrey, who says he first briefly
visited what was then St. Anne's (or St.
Ann's) Retreat when he was 6 years old
- "before my mother and I were scared
off when some dogs came running down
the hill" - admits he's never spent a
night at Pine Glenn Cove.
"But I can tell you , there's no nun
with a golden arm, or dead babies under
the playhouse," Godfrey declares. "In
fact, I've had a number of paranormal
societies contact me, and they all said
there was nothing up there. Although
one of the groups did get the holy heck
scared out of them when a sheriff's
deputy came in off the road - they
check it all the time and he saw lights
- and slammed a door shut while they
were all standing in the lodge. Otherwise,
the scariest thing you'll probably
see up there is a squirrel or a pack rat."
The Catholic church took possession
of what it then renamed St.
Anne's Retreat in the 1950s after
the Hatch family initially tried to donate
the site to the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints and Utah State University.
The retreat served as a getaway
spot for Sisters of the Holy Cross from
the Salt Lake diocese for a couple of decades
before it was turned into a summer
youth camp in the 1980s. The Catholic
Church eventually sold the lease to some
families in 1993, and the site has been
under private ownership ever since.
Now close to 100 years old, the
original buildings at Hatch's Camp/Pine
Glenn Cove were constructed in the
1910s by Hezekiah Eastman Hatch,
the president of the Thatcher Banking
Company in Logan, who obtained the
original permit from the forest service.
His son, Lorenzo Boyd Hatch, would
later improve and add to the retreat,
eventually sharing the site with his
brother-in-law, Floyd B. OdIum.
Hatch, who is best known in Cache
Valley for founding the Sunshine Terrace
Foundation in 1948, and OdIum
became brothers-in-law after marry-
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ing sisters originally from St. George.
Hatch met Anne McQuarrie in 1917
while working in Salt Lake City and
married her a year later, while OdIum,
a Michigan native who attended law
school at the University of Colorado,
was employed by Utah Power & Light
in Salt Lake when he first encountered
Hortense "Tenny" McQuarrie. The couple
was married in 1914, and the Hatch
and OdIum families would become even
further linked when, following the death
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financial success almost immediately,
the company grew quickly, and in 1928,
it merged with another company to become
the Atlas Utilities Company with
OdIum as president, Hatch as vice-president
and assets valued at $6 million.
But just months before the stock
market crashed in 1929, OdIum sold off
half of Atlas' holdings and $9 million in
new securities to investors, leaving him
with an estimated $14 million in cash
and short-term notes as the country's financial
system was falling apart. In tum,
OdIum started buying up stock from
other investment firms - often for 50
cents on the dollar - reorganized them
and sold of their assets, only to purchase
more firms, and eventually, a wide
variety of businesses from railroads to
mines and motion-picture studios to
department stores.
Considered one the 10 richest people
in the country by 1933, OdIum and
the company now known as the Atlas
Corporation, bought part of RKO Pictures
, the studio that turned out "Citizen
Kane" in 1941 , After taking over RKO
completely in 1942 at a price of $3 million,
OdIum ended up selling the studio
to Howard Hughes four years later for
$9 million_ The shrewd investor also
ended owning all or part of the Hilton
hotel chain, Greyhound buslines, Convair
airplane manufacturing, Madison
Square Garden and the Bonwit Teller
department store_
OdIum turned over control of Bonwit
Teller, a high-fashion store in New York
City, to his wife, who served as president
from 1934-40 at a time when women
were rarely found in such positions.
Hortense OdIum, referred to as "one of
the 10 best-dressed women in the world,"
even stayed on at Bonwit Teller after she
and Floyd were divorced in 1935.
Following that separation, OdIum
was introduced to Jacqueline "Jackie"
Cochran, who would become arguably
the second-most famous female pilot in
the country behind her friend , Amelia
Earhart. The first woman to break the
sound barrier, Cochran married OdIum,
and the couple later settled on a massive
ranch in the California desert near Palm
Springs in the 1950s, virtually founding
the community of Indio while rarely visiting
Utah. The OdIums often welcomed
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friends like Chuck Yeager and Dwight
D. Eisenhower into their home prior
to Floyd's death at age 84 in 1976 and
Jackie's passing four years later.
Hortense OdIum, who briefly remarried
in the later 1930s, died in Indio in
1970 at the home of her son, Bruce. Her
sister, Anne Hatch, passed away in New
York City in 1979, more than 22 years
after L. Boyd Hatch had died at his summer
home in Connecticut at age 60.
Pine Glenn Cove is basically
broken up into two parts: A
lower road off of which most of
the buildings constructed by the Hatches
can be found, and an upper road, where
the OdIums' lodge and cabins stand.
Currently along the Hatch lane, just
above the Logan River, remain two
small cabins (one of which housed the
camp's maids), a larger cottage, a small
generator shed, a playhouse and the
main cabin, which was later used as
a dining hall because of its screened-in
porch. East of these structures are
two guest houses, a storage shed and
a magnificent lodge. Stone stairs and
walkways, constructed by out-of-work
masons during The Great Depression,
surround many of the buildings, and
the infamous swimming pool sits in
between the two roads, adjacent to a
two-story structure used as a pool house
and laundry.
While most of the buildings are now
in disrepair, the stone-and-wood cottage
that served as quarters for the Hatches'
daughters, has had extensive work done,
as has the OdIums' lodge. Built about
1929, is boasts a screened porch on
three sides, a stone fireplace imported
from Europe, and a huge, vaulted ceiling
with hand-painted iron work above
the main room. Stairs lead up to two
large bedrooms and a bathroom.
Pine Glenn Cove (or Forest Hills according
to the forest service lease) also
used to be equipped with horse stables,
an outdoor amphitheatre, and an indoor
theater that could seat 24 people and
even had its own ticket booth.
Boyd and Anne Hatch's daughter,
Sydney di Villarosa, returned to the retreat
in the late '90s with Chad Godfrey
in tow, and she shared fond memories of
picnics by the river and putting on plays
with her young relatives with Hollywood
movie directors, CEOs and noteworthy
politicians in the audience. Now
in her 80s, Villarosa recently returned to
Italy, the land of her late husband, after
moving to St. George for a time.
"Sydney has lived an amazing life,"
Godfrey says. "She married into nothing
short of Italian royalty and lived in
Milan until she wanted to come back
to her roots. Her home in St. George is
reminiscent of an Italian villa .... And
right when you walk in, there's a great
photograph of Sydney with Shirley Temple
and Cary Grant, all holding arms.
"I think her sister, Betty, is also still
alive and living in New York City, and
she married into basically the equivalent
of Argentine royalty. They've lived these
illustrious lives, and they think nothing
of it," adds Godfrey, who says he's been
told that among the celebrities who visited
Pine Glenn Cove are movie starlets
Joan Crawford and Marilyn Monroe.
Because it has almost always had a
telephone, Godfrey says OdIum and
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Hatch used to spend large portions of
their summer at the camp, conducting
business across the country and the
world from Logan Canyon. Pine Glenn
Cove is also outfitted with an unusual
water system that carries water from
springs almost a mile away in Preston
Valley, through a series of underground
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22 Cache Valley Magazine
Clockwise from top left: The swimming
pool were horrified teenage
trespassers were detained in 1997.
The back side of the sleeping cottage
above the Logan River. Signs
of vandalism remain inside the large
Hatch cabin. The view out the upper
window of the Odiums' lodge. The
large, screened-in porch served as a
dining area when the site was used
as a youth camp. The main lodge is
believed to have been built around
1929. The fireplace in the Odiums'
lodge was imported from Europe.
"It's an amazing system," Godfrey
says. "I mean the pool is huge: 20 feetby-
60 feet. And you can fill it in two-anda-
half hours. If you put a garden hose in
there, it would take you until next June."
Godfrey, who says he first started
dreaming about purchasing Pine Glenn
Cove in the late '70s, clearly feels much
like Floyd OdIum when it comes to the
beautiful retreat up Logan Canyon. One
could easily see him, confined to an
office in Salt Lake City, writing a poem
similar to the one that OdIum shared in
his speech 55 years ago .
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ever since I was a kid," Godfrey proclaims
with a smile. "It has an interesting
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history. It's a very unique property, and I
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TOP Clouds gathered along the southern
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setting sun.
LEFT Cumulonimbus clouds build up
above the Bear River Mountain Range on a
hot summer day.
BELOW Refracted light creates a unique
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But it's unlikely that many of their commercial
counterparts share the Cox family's tradition of more
than a century of association with the honey business.
That tradition began around the tum of the 19th
Century with the clan's patriarch, Henderson Cox,
tending bees in St. George, which was then a small
farming community. Henderson was eventually
joined in that enterprise by his son, Marion. In 1929,
Marion Cox founded the family business that would
eventually become Cox Honeyland & Gifts. It was
Marion who relocated his family to Cache Valley
after marrying his wife, Lucile, a Providence native,
during the Great Depression. The first headquarters
for the couple's local honey business was established
in Providence.
By the mid-1960s, a third generation of the Cox
family, represented by Marion's son Duane and his
wife Margene, had taken over the reins of the business.
They moved the family enterprise to an expanded
warehouse along U.S . Hwy. 89-91 south of Logan
about 20 years later and then expanded into retail
sales in 1989.
Nowadays, their son Darren has assumed responsibility
for tending the Cox family's bee colonies and
the day-to-day operation of the honey and gift side of
the business is handled by their daughters: Maleesa
Jacobsen of College Ward, Camille Cowley of
Wellsville and Michelle Spuhler of Providence. But
a fifth generation of the clan is also involved in the
honey business: teenaged Breanne Jacobsen is already
employed in the gift shop that is collocated with the
Cox warehouse, and her kid sister McKenzie is an
enthusiastic part-time presence there, as well.
Despite its reputation as the Beehive State, Utah
ranks 24th among U.S. states in the production of
honey. In 2009, the total American honey crop was
144 million pounds from about 2.4 million bee Stephanie Adamson puts labels on fresh bottles of honey at Cox Honeyland.
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produced about 60 percent of that crop.
While that may sound like a lot of
honey, the National Honey Board
reports that Americans are using more
honey-based products - ranging from
cereals to cough syrups - every year.
For example, more than 200 new products
containing honey were introduced
in the United States since 1998, many of
them capitalizing on the all-natural and
Adamson, who has worked at Cox Honeyland
for just over a year, fills up a large jar of honey.
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and fructose. Recent research has also
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antioxidants.
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Utah's annual honey production averages
about 1 million pounds and the
Cox family sells as much as 20 percent
of that crop in a good year. But it isn't
just production volume that makes
the Cox name one to conjure with in
the Utah honey business. In May, Cox
Honeyland & Gifts was recognized by
the U.S. Small Business Administration
as Utah's family-owned business of the
year.
"We were really honored to receive
that award," Margene recalls, "particularly
since it signaled that state officials
were paying attention to agriculturerelated
businesses ... In agriculture,
your management has got to be just
right. And, even then, the weather has
also got to cooperate if you're going to
produce a crop. So a successful farmer
has got to be a good businessman and
that's something that most people don't
realize."
But residents of Cache Valley and
northern Utah didn't need a state award
to attract them to Cox Honeyland and
Gifts. Customers have been flocking to
the little white-frame gift shop adjacent
to the Cox warehouse for nearly two
decades.
"We have a lot of customers who
come from as far away as Ogden and
34 Cache Valley Magazine
Margene Cox answers a customer's questions about honey production at the gift shop.
Salt Lake," Maleesa Jacobsen emphasizes,
"because they say that they can't
find unique gift stores like this where
they live. They're also attracted because
we have such a wide variety of gifts. We
provide them with an opportunity to create
custom gift baskets. Our customers
don't have settle for whatever is in a gift
box at Christmastirne. They can select
exactly what they want here year-round
and we'll package it beautifully just for
them in a way that's appropriate for any
occasion."
Margene Cox attributes much of the
success and longevity of their honey
business to her family's work ethic and
willingness to adapt to the changing
business climate.
"My maiden name was Lindley," she
explains. "I was raised on the first farm
that you pass coming out of Sardine
Canyon heading north. It was a 750-acre
dairy and cattle farm. We worked hard
on that farm, but it was good experience
for me. If I hadn't been raised in
an agricultural family, I would probably
have never survived being married to a
beekeeper."
Margene adds that she and her husband
Duane were both raised in families
where long, hard days of work were
necessary to "keep food on the table and
a roof over our heads." Given that background,
the couple naturally raised their
children to have that same type of work
ethic. "That didn't mean that our kids
didn't complain about their chores," she
admits with a smile. "But they understood
why those things had to be done
and that they had to work until a job was
finished, not just until they were tired or
bored."
Honey bees are social insects with
a marked division of labor within the
hives they inhabit. Each colony of bees
includes a queen, drones and workers.
In the most simple terms, the queen bee
lays eggs; the relative handful of drones
mate with the queen; and the thousands
of workers feed the queen and her larvae,
collect nectar from plants, produce
honey and guard the hive.
According to Margene Cox, the main
difference between the honey bees and
the humans who tend them is that, in the
family of a beekeeper, everybody is a
worker.
There are roughly 300 varieties of
honey produced in America, running
the gamut from water-white fireweed
to rich, dark amber buckwheat. In
general, lighter-colored honeys have a
mild taste while darker-colored honeys
have more bold flavors. Darker honeys
also tend to have a higher mineral
content and antioxidant potential.
Those variations of taste and content
also impact the commercial value of
particular types of honey, so successful
beekeepers spend a lot of time moving
their hives from one location to another
to take full advantage of abundant
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In addition to producing honey,
wandering bees also help to pollinate
agricultural crops, home gardens and
wildlife habitat. The U.S. Department
of Agriculture estimates that 80 percent
of insect crop pollination is accomplished
by honey bees and that approximately
one-third of the total human diet
is derived directly or indirectly from
insect-pollinated plants and crops. So
many commercial beekeepers like the
Cox family also spend time transporting
their colonies around the country to
provide contract pollination services to
farmers.
Combined with the labor involved
September 2010 35
in tending their hives and harvesting
honey, the aforementioned transporting
chores keep commercial beekeepers
- and their wives and children - almost
as busy as their bees, according to
Margene.
The Cox family began to diversity
their business in the late 1980s. Prior to
that time, Duane and Margene had been
selling the bulk of their annual honey
crop on a wholesale basis to a farmers'
cooperative in Iowa. But when health
problems dictated that Duane Cox take
a less active role in the business, his
wife realized that her life was about to
change in a big way.
"I had worked in several different
jobs over the years to help make ends
meet while Duane was keeping our
bees," Margene explains. "But when
Duane had to get an artificial hip, we
realized that we had to develop a retail
side of our business to support ourselves
when he eventually retired ... If
I was going to start my own company,
I knew that I was going to have to
find my own niche. Well, I knew the
gift business pretty well because I had
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36 Cache Valley Magazine
Cox Honeyland was recognized as the state of Utah's small business of the year in May.
worked in a florist shop for years; I had
also done oil paintings and some interior
decorating. So I had to take those
things that I knew and use them to our
best advantage."
Like many would-be entrepreneurs in
Cache Valley, Margene's first stop on
the road to launching a new business
was Utah State University. While taking
some business classes there, she also so-licited
the support of USU's small-business
development staff, who provided
both start-up advice and testing of her
initial gift product ideas.
The retail gift side of the business
started small, Margene recalls, because
the family was determined to launch
that enterprise with out-of-pocket
money rather than incurring a lot of debt
through business loans. They installed
a pre-fabricated home adjacent to their
warehouse to serve as a gift shop. All
the manufacturing and bottling of Margene
Cox' first products - honey butter,
honey syrup and cream honey - was
done by-hand in the tiny kitchen of that
home. Despite those humble beginnings,
the business took off.
But Cox Honeyland & Gifts is nevertheless
expanding to meet steadily
increasing demand. The Cox family
now ships an average ton-and-a-half of
honey products to locations around the
world each week and sells about a ton
of fudge annually. Their selection of
gourmet food items includes creamed
honeys, honey butters, honeyed popcorn,
flavored honeys, honey caramels
and other types of candy. In addition
to custom baskets, their available gifts
include toys, candles, massage bars and
many other items.
"I hope that our customers want
to stop here and shop because we're
friendly and have a family atmosphere,"
Margene Cox adds. "Honey will always
be our trademark, but we've got
something for everybody here now. We
try to offer seasonal items along with
our unique gifts, like all the Halloween
decorations we have on display now. We
also try to fill an educational role; we've
even got films for children that explain
how honey is made." m
"If I had been willing to risk more
back at the beginning, I would probably
have a much bigger business now,"
Margene Cox admits, sitting in the
cluttered office of Cox Honeyland &
Gifts. The house's small kitchen is now
gone, transferred to the adjacent warehouse
when more room was needed for
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Canyon scare charges likely
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
The Cache County Attorney’s Office said today criminal charges most likely will be filed against three men who allegedly ambushed two groups of thrill-seeking teen-agers Friday, tied them up and terrorized them.
The charges could range from misdemeanors to felonies and will focus on assault, said Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt.
“There is a very high probability that will file criminal charges against these guys,” Wyatt said this morning. “The initial reports are pretty incredible.”
Wyatt said the actions of the three at the old St. Anne’s retreat 8 miles up Logan Canyon apparently went far beyond legal limits.
Wyatt said his office would likely decide on the charges and issue warrants by the end of the week.
The attorney’s office is waiting for sheriff’s deputies t9o finish taking statements from nearly 40 teen-agers, the three men and others. Wyatt said he wants to read all the statements before determining charges.
“They’ve only given me the initial reports,” Wyatt said. “I haven’t seen any statements at all. But as soon as they are collected we will make a decision.”
Wyatt said St. Anne’s is a local haunted house on private property and what happened when the carloads of youngsters got there is almost unbelievable.
“It’s one of the most incredible things I’ve ever seen,” Wyatt said.
The kids should not have done what they did because they were trespassing but that doesn’t justify the reactions of these guys,” Wyatt said. “Overkill is a good way to describe it.”
“The kids told authorities the gate was open or partially open when they walked through and were ambushed by three shotgun-wielding men.
In the first incident, before dawn Friday, six boys and two girls were ambushed on the grounds by the men who fired at least one shot over their heads, then marched into a lodge, handcuffed and tied neck to neck by ropes, the teen-agers said. They told sheriff’s deputies who arrived nearly two hours later that the men shouted obscenities at them and threatened to kill them and hide their bodies.
The teen-agers were handcuffed in official police cuffs and taken by squad cars by four deputies to the sheriff’s office where they were interrogated and released. Some were given citations for trespassing, a Class C misdemeanor similar to a traffic ticket.
The three men were not arrested.
The second larger group of about 30 boys and girls, unaware of what happened in the earlier incident, said they were accosted by the same men as they walked through what they said was an open gate late Friday night.
They said they were ordered into an empty swimming pool, handcuffed with plastic flexible ties and also bound by ropes, neck to neck. They said they were told that if they moved the ropes would tighten, trigger an explosive and their heads would be blown off.
One boy said he was knocked unconscious by a billyclub and a girl complained that she was fondled.
About 40 parents confronted sheriff’s deputies outside the station Saturday after demanding action.
Parents told reporters they were angry at the non-action of the Sheriff’s Office for allowing a repeat Friday night of the incident early that morning and thus placing minors in danger.
Wyatt said he has not interviewed John Jeppson, identified as the oldest of the three men at St. Anne’s and the lead watchman who was armed from time to time with a shotgun, pistol, knife and billyclub.
When told Jeppson was still living at St. Anne’s, Wyatt said, “Good, then he can stay put so we can serve him with a warrant.”
The property owner said he allowed Jeppson to live there in exchange for fixing up the place and knew nothing of the other two men or of Jeppson’s alleged actions Friday.
Legends have lured generations to site
Legends surrounding St. Anne’s have provided a thrill to Cache Valley youths for generations.
Middle-aged people, including prominent members of the local community, remember when they were kids, too, and they drove up Logan Canyon with nerves of steel to get the wits scared out of them.
They were drawn at Halloween time by stories of hosts, including one of a nun emerging from the forest and followed by two red-eyed Dobermans.
“It’s been a place where everybody’s been. I remember when I was there,” said Shannon Demler, a Logan attorney.
People around town are laying bets that just about every old-time Cache resident went to scary St. Anne’s in the October darkness at one time or another.
The compound 8 miles up the canyon on the right started as a lodge and cabins in the 1920s and was converted into a Catholic retreat. It was eventually sold by the Catholic Church and has changed hands several times.
The property, with a Yellowstone-type lodge that has a rock fireplace and winding stairs, also includes several sleeping cabins and the famous swimming pool which still abounds with frightening stories.
It is commonly known today as the “nunnery.”
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The security guards responsible for the ambush of 38 trespassers at St. Anne’s retreat likely to face charges.
Canyon scare charges likely
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
The Cache County Attorney’s Office said today criminal charges most likely will be filed against three men who allegedly ambushed two groups of thrill-seeking teen-agers Friday, tied them up and terrorized them.
The charges could range from misdemeanors to felonies and will focus on assault, said Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt.
“There is a very high probability that will file criminal charges against these guys,” Wyatt said this morning. “The initial reports are pretty incredible.”
Wyatt said the actions of the three at the old St. Anne’s retreat 8 miles up Logan Canyon apparently went far beyond legal limits.
Wyatt said his office would likely decide on the charges and issue warrants by the end of the week.
The attorney’s office is waiting for sheriff’s deputies t9o finish taking statements from nearly 40 teen-agers, the three men and others. Wyatt said he wants to read all the statements before determining charges.
“They’ve only given me the initial reports,” Wyatt said. “I haven’t seen any statements at all. But as soon as they are collected we will make a decision.”
Wyatt said St. Anne’s is a local haunted house on private property and what happened when the carloads of youngsters got there is almost unbelievable.
“It’s one of the most incredible things I’ve ever seen,” Wyatt said.
The kids should not have done what they did because they were trespassing but that doesn’t justify the reactions of these guys,” Wyatt said. “Overkill is a good way to describe it.”
“The kids told authorities the gate was open or partially open when they walked through and were ambushed by three shotgun-wielding men.
In the first incident, before dawn Friday, six boys and two girls were ambushed on the grounds by the men who fired at least one shot over their heads, then marched into a lodge, handcuffed and tied neck to neck by ropes, the teen-agers said. They told sheriff’s deputies who arrived nearly two hours later that the men shouted obscenities at them and threatened to kill them and hide their bodies.
The teen-agers were handcuffed in official police cuffs and taken by squad cars by four deputies to the sheriff’s office where they were interrogated and released. Some were given citations for trespassing, a Class C misdemeanor similar to a traffic ticket.
The three men were not arrested.
The second larger group of about 30 boys and girls, unaware of what happened in the earlier incident, said they were accosted by the same men as they walked through what they said was an open gate late Friday night.
They said they were ordered into an empty swimming pool, handcuffed with plastic flexible ties and also bound by ropes, neck to neck. They said they were told that if they moved the ropes would tighten, trigger an explosive and their heads would be blown off.
One boy said he was knocked unconscious by a billyclub and a girl complained that she was fondled.
About 40 parents confronted sheriff’s deputies outside the station Saturday after demanding action.
Parents told reporters they were angry at the non-action of the Sheriff’s Office for allowing a repeat Friday night of the incident early that morning and thus placing minors in danger.
Wyatt said he has not interviewed John Jeppson, identified as the oldest of the three men at St. Anne’s and the lead watchman who was armed from time to time with a shotgun, pistol, knife and billyclub.
When told Jeppson was still living at St. Anne’s, Wyatt said, “Good, then he can stay put so we can serve him with a warrant.”
The property owner said he allowed Jeppson to live there in exchange for fixing up the place and knew nothing of the other two men or of Jeppson’s alleged actions Friday.
Legends have lured generations to site
Legends surrounding St. Anne’s have provided a thrill to Cache Valley youths for generations.
Middle-aged people, including prominent members of the local community, remember when they were kids, too, and they drove up Logan Canyon with nerves of steel to get the wits scared out of them.
They were drawn at Halloween time by stories of hosts, including one of a nun emerging from the forest and followed by two red-eyed Dobermans.
“It’s been a place where everybody’s been. I remember when I was there,” said Shannon Demler, a Logan attorney.
People around town are laying bets that just about every old-time Cache resident went to scary St. Anne’s in the October darkness at one time or another.
The compound 8 miles up the canyon on the right started as a lodge and cabins in the 1920s and was converted into a Catholic retreat. It was eventually sold by the Catholic Church and has changed hands several times.
The property, with a Yellowstone-type lodge that has a rock fireplace and winding stairs, also includes several sleeping cabins and the famous swimming pool which still abounds with frightening stories.
It is commonly known today as the “nunnery.”
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The Herald Journal
Canyon watchmen identified
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
The Cache County Sheriff’s Office this morning released the names of three watchmen accused of terrorizing a group of teen-agers trespassing at the former St. Anne’s Convent in Logan Canyon on Friday night.
John Jeppson, 50, of Pocatello, Idaho, is the head watchman that made the initial trespassing call from Zanavoo Restaurant and Lodge to the Cache County Sheriff’s Office at around 10:30 p.m. Friday.
The other two watchmen were identified as Christopher Doerr and Arthur Peasnall, both of Tooele County.
When The Herald Journal telephoned John Jeppson this morning, an unidentified woman answered the phone and said she’d leave a message for Jeppson but hung up before the paper’s number could be given.
When Peasnall was called and asked to give his side of the story, he repeatedly said, “I have no comment.”
Doerrs telephone number could not be located.
Chief Deputy Mike Stauffer with the sheriff’s office said the three men are being investigated and it will be up to the Cache County Attorney’s Office if charges are filed.
Deputy Troy Liquin, in his report of the incident, stated that when he arrived, he was met by the three watchmen each with flashlights taped to the end of their shotguns. Jeppson also was wearing a holstered pistol strapped to his belt.
When he told them to put their weapons in their vehicles, all of them complied except Jeppson, who Liquin said had to be told three times before he put his weapon away.
Liquin said he discovered the 30 trespassing youths in the pool on their knees. Twenty of them had a continuous nylon cord wrapped around their necks and if one person moved, they would all choke, he said in the report.
Some of the girls were crying and two or three other males were near tears because their hands were tied so tight with plastic cuffs, according to the report.
“As I looked at their hands, on the girls particularly, most of them were turning white in color, almost bluish in color. Visible swelling as well as red marks were observed on the majority of the individuals,” Liquin stated.
Liquin said he ordered the cuffs to be removed, and the youths complained of being hit and yelled at. One girl said one of the guards fondled her, according to the report.
One teen-ager handed a spent Federal 12-gague shotgun shell casing to an officer and said it had been shot near his head. Another said a guard shot next to his feet, the report said.
When deputies approached the three watchmen, Liquin said Peasnall used a military identification card to identify himself.
“Mr. Jeppson was very upset about the juveniles being there. He stated, ‘What am I supposed to do?’” according to the report. “Mr. Jeppson…began talking about Vietnam and how this was similar to troops being placed in Vietnam, and went on with some conversation about police powers in the war.”
Stauffer said the watchmen weren’t arrested because an investigation would need to be conducted to determine which of the juveniles were telling the truth.
“We arrested the juveniles because it was immediately apparent they were trespassing,” Stauffer said.
He said the fact the juveniles were trespassing and had to cross through a barbed wire fence to get there has been underplayed in this incident.
“Obviously, someone didn’t want them on their property,” he said.
The thirty people were cited and released for trespassing.
Another six people, three youths and three adults, were cited earlier Friday for trespassing on the same property.
Action beyond legal limits?
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
Trespassing laws do not allow the kind of force or confinement allegedly used by three armed caretakers who terrorized Cache County teen-agers in Logan Canyon on Friday.
The Cache County Sheriff’s Office is investigating two incidents of teen-agers who said they were held captive, abused and threatened with their lives at the old St. Anne’s Retreat midway up the canyon.
Detectives said the case will be turned over County Attorney Scott Wyatt who will determine what if any charges against the caretakers will be filed.
Wyatt said he was meeting today with sheriff’s investigators and should know by Tuesday morning what action his office will take.
A Logan attorney read to reporters parts of the state law covering trespassing and what a property owner legally can and cannot do.
The use of force such as weapons against a trespasser or confining a trespasser is against the law unless the owner feels his life or the life of others is in danger, the law states.
“They could be liable for false imprisonment, assault and battery and a whole host of things,” said Joe Chambers, a Logan attorney and former Rich County deputy attorney.
Chambers said the law also covers “intentional infliction of emotional distress” against a trespasser, saying it is illegal to do something “so extreme and outrageous that if you hear about it the average person would say, I can’t believe they did that,” Chambers said.
Chambers, who has a 17-year old son, said he would have been outraged if his daughter had been fondled by the caretakers, as one of the teenagers alleged. “I’d be sitting on Scott Wyatt’s doorstep right now,” he said.
Chambers said the owner also has liability.
“You can’t just hire a bunch of crazies to take care of your property and have no liability, Chambers said.
According to records at the Cache County recorder’s office, the property was sold by the Catholic Church in 1992 to Peggy Godfrey for $120,000. Records also contain the name of Richard Salvitti of Salt Lake City as the person responsible for taxes. Efforts to contact both Godfrey and Salvitti were not successful.
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Herald Journal article identifies the guards involved in an armed standoff involving 30 trespassing legend-trippers at St. Anne's Retreat.
The Herald Journal
Canyon watchmen identified
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
The Cache County Sheriff’s Office this morning released the names of three watchmen accused of terrorizing a group of teen-agers trespassing at the former St. Anne’s Convent in Logan Canyon on Friday night.
John Jeppson, 50, of Pocatello, Idaho, is the head watchman that made the initial trespassing call from Zanavoo Restaurant and Lodge to the Cache County Sheriff’s Office at around 10:30 p.m. Friday.
The other two watchmen were identified as Christopher Doerr and Arthur Peasnall, both of Tooele County.
When The Herald Journal telephoned John Jeppson this morning, an unidentified woman answered the phone and said she’d leave a message for Jeppson but hung up before the paper’s number could be given.
When Peasnall was called and asked to give his side of the story, he repeatedly said, “I have no comment.”
Doerrs telephone number could not be located.
Chief Deputy Mike Stauffer with the sheriff’s office said the three men are being investigated and it will be up to the Cache County Attorney’s Office if charges are filed.
Deputy Troy Liquin, in his report of the incident, stated that when he arrived, he was met by the three watchmen each with flashlights taped to the end of their shotguns. Jeppson also was wearing a holstered pistol strapped to his belt.
When he told them to put their weapons in their vehicles, all of them complied except Jeppson, who Liquin said had to be told three times before he put his weapon away.
Liquin said he discovered the 30 trespassing youths in the pool on their knees. Twenty of them had a continuous nylon cord wrapped around their necks and if one person moved, they would all choke, he said in the report.
Some of the girls were crying and two or three other males were near tears because their hands were tied so tight with plastic cuffs, according to the report.
“As I looked at their hands, on the girls particularly, most of them were turning white in color, almost bluish in color. Visible swelling as well as red marks were observed on the majority of the individuals,” Liquin stated.
Liquin said he ordered the cuffs to be removed, and the youths complained of being hit and yelled at. One girl said one of the guards fondled her, according to the report.
One teen-ager handed a spent Federal 12-gague shotgun shell casing to an officer and said it had been shot near his head. Another said a guard shot next to his feet, the report said.
When deputies approached the three watchmen, Liquin said Peasnall used a military identification card to identify himself.
“Mr. Jeppson was very upset about the juveniles being there. He stated, ‘What am I supposed to do?’” according to the report. “Mr. Jeppson…began talking about Vietnam and how this was similar to troops being placed in Vietnam, and went on with some conversation about police powers in the war.”
Stauffer said the watchmen weren’t arrested because an investigation would need to be conducted to determine which of the juveniles were telling the truth.
“We arrested the juveniles because it was immediately apparent they were trespassing,” Stauffer said.
He said the fact the juveniles were trespassing and had to cross through a barbed wire fence to get there has been underplayed in this incident.
“Obviously, someone didn’t want them on their property,” he said.
The thirty people were cited and released for trespassing.
Another six people, three youths and three adults, were cited earlier Friday for trespassing on the same property.
Action beyond legal limits?
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
Trespassing laws do not allow the kind of force or confinement allegedly used by three armed caretakers who terrorized Cache County teen-agers in Logan Canyon on Friday.
The Cache County Sheriff’s Office is investigating two incidents of teen-agers who said they were held captive, abused and threatened with their lives at the old St. Anne’s Retreat midway up the canyon.
Detectives said the case will be turned over County Attorney Scott Wyatt who will determine what if any charges against the caretakers will be filed.
Wyatt said he was meeting today with sheriff’s investigators and should know by Tuesday morning what action his office will take.
A Logan attorney read to reporters parts of the state law covering trespassing and what a property owner legally can and cannot do.
The use of force such as weapons against a trespasser or confining a trespasser is against the law unless the owner feels his life or the life of others is in danger, the law states.
“They could be liable for false imprisonment, assault and battery and a whole host of things,” said Joe Chambers, a Logan attorney and former Rich County deputy attorney.
Chambers said the law also covers “intentional infliction of emotional distress” against a trespasser, saying it is illegal to do something “so extreme and outrageous that if you hear about it the average person would say, I can’t believe they did that,” Chambers said.
Chambers, who has a 17-year old son, said he would have been outraged if his daughter had been fondled by the caretakers, as one of the teenagers alleged. “I’d be sitting on Scott Wyatt’s doorstep right now,” he said.
Chambers said the owner also has liability.
“You can’t just hire a bunch of crazies to take care of your property and have no liability, Chambers said.
According to records at the Cache County recorder’s office, the property was sold by the Catholic Church in 1992 to Peggy Godfrey for $120,000. Records also contain the name of Richard Salvitti of Salt Lake City as the person responsible for taxes. Efforts to contact both Godfrey and Salvitti were not successful.
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Folklore fieldwork collection assignments featuring St. Anne's Retreat in Logan Canyon.
Supernatural Legend
"The Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Cory Ballard
Nibley, Utah
April, 1988
Cory Ballard was another classmate and graduate of Mountain
Crest High in 1987. He likes fast cars, working for his Dad
and outdoor games. He likes to have a good time and be wild
sometimes. He is very active in the LOS church with his family
and plans to serve a mission.
Contextual Data:
Cory lives in my ward so I went over to his house when I
saw him sitting outside catching some rays. I asked him to
relate the story once again as he did one year ago that day after
it happened. It was the first time he had talked about it since
then. He said he would never do that ever again.
Text:
We did go inside the gate, but not very far. We both were
toOchi7hken to go any farther, then something started chasing us
.. '
out the gate. We were running to the car screaming, "start the
car" and it wouldn't start at all then really weird it started
right up when I jumped behind the driver's wheel. As we . were
driving away we all felt a bump on the back of the car. The
next morning my Dad came in and asked me where I had been that
night because there was a long black mark on the back of the car
on the drivers side and it wouldn't come off. I told him what we
had been doing and swore to him I would never do that again. The
whole thing was like a nightmare come true.
Sherry Anderson
Nibley, Utah 84321
USU
Folklore
Spring 1988
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Infonnant:
James Milligun
Logan, Utah
Oct. 22, 1997
James Milligun is from Logan Utah. He has resided there his whole life. He is twenty
two, working and thinking about going back to colleage. He is from a L.D.S. family and currently
getting reinvolved in that church. He is of Gennan disent. He loves the outdoors, rock climbing,
hiking, fishing, snow boarding, and camping.
Context:
I gathered this information while talking about bizarre things, family secrets, scary stories,
mysterious happenings, and stupid jokes, with a group of my guy friends. He was told this
superstitions by his friend Larry Soule. They were at a boy scout over nighter (camp) in Logan
Canyon, June 1991. I'll tell it how he told it. He claims it to be true.
Text:
"This friend of mine, Larry he was kind of into satanic stuff, he said that there is lady that
lives in Logan Canyon. She is supposedly Satan's wife. Her names is Hekida (Hekita). He said If
( you say Hekida three times terrible things happen. And he made sure to say Hekida three times
(kind of like I just did, except we are not in the Canyon). So right after he said her name the third
time, rocks started falling down the mountain. Not just little rocks but big boulders. Later on,
during that trip he told someone else that superstition saying her name three more times. And just
after that one of the boys almost fell of a cliff. It's true, I was there."
Texture:
James told me this story totaling believing in every word. The others just laughed at him
and started shouting "Hekida, Hekida, Hek. .. I don't dare finish it. But I'm convinced that there
may very well be-a strange power in Logan Canyon that I don't want to mess with.
D'On Elizabeth Bybee
Richmond, Utah 84333
USU
Eiglish 124
Professor Toelken
Fall 1997
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The Nunnery
Informant Data:
Stephanie Bramwell
Logan, Utah
Winter 1993
Stephanie grew up in Washington state, she is twenty
years old and carne to Utah to attend Utah State University.
Stephanie is known in her family as the prankster. She
enjoys hiking, camping, and sports. Stephanie is a very
social person and is a member of a sorority at USU.
Contextual Data:
Stephanie relayed this story to a bunch of her sorority
sisters and some fraternity boys. They were all messing
around one weekend, and were up late that night telling
stories of ghosts, hauntings and personal experiences. Upon
the need to do something, Stephanie encouraged the group to
make a voyage up Logan Canyon to the Nunnery. On the way up
Stephanie told the legend of the Nunnery.
Text:
Sometime before most of Logan had been settled. There
was this delivery that carne up to Logan Canyon to bring
supplies to the isolated nunnery. This was a place of
seclusion for the nuns and also the place where they sent
the troubled children to be taken care of. The only means
of supplies and food for the nuns and children was this
delivery truck.
Well, one winter, the snowfall had gotten so bad that
the delivery truck was unable to get through to the nunnery.
It tried and tried, but was unable to get through until the
next spring. When the delivery and help finally made it up
to the nunnery they discovered all of the children and nuns
were dead. It's believed that the nuns out of desperation,
ate the children and then went mad themselves. They killed
each other and then killed themselves. Supposedly their
spirits are still wandering aimlessly about at the nunnery
today.
Jennifer Wheeler
Logan, Utah
5916 South 3750 West
Roy, Utah
Utah State University
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"Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Kent Lundberg
Logan, Utah
Spring 1989
Kent was a senior in high school when I knew him. He was
born and raised in Logan, and came from a large family. He spent
a lot of his time in the mountains and rock climbing. It is hard
for me to give any current information because I haven't seen him
for quite a few years.
Contextual Data:
One Friday night when Kent and I were dating, he took me up
Logan canyon about ten miles to some old abandoned cabins.
Although they are directly off the main road they are hard to see
because of heavy overgrowth and trees. I had never noticed them
before. There is a main lodge with a swimming pool and several
cabins all around. It was dark so he was trying to scare me and
he told me the story that went with the old abandoned camp.
Text:
Back in the 1970's there used to be a camp run by nuns for
catholic girls during the summers. One summer a nun went crazy
and one night she convinced several of the children they needed
to come with her for a very special assignment. She then took
the children one by one and drown them in the pool. She killed
twelve children before she was done. The next morning the early
morning campers found the twelve dead children floating in the
pool and the crazy nun hanging from the flagpole. The state shut
the camp down after that and that's why it is now abounded. They
rumor is that the spirit of the dead nun still walks the ground
and every night she sits by the pool and weeps for what she did.
They say that if you are wandering around up there and she see
you she will show herself to you in the form of an all white nun.
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the next year.
Michelle Phillips
Richmond, Utah 84333
Preston, Idaho 83263
History 124
winter 1994
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Informant Data:
Tonya Griffin
Logan, Utah
April, 1989
Tonya Griffin is a 23 year' and is living in Logan but is from
Newton, Utah. She went to Sky View High School and graduated in 1984.
qer religion is L.D.S. and l-ter families descents are Dutch and Danish.
S~ e's attending Utah State University and is majoring in Marketing and
Economics. She's a great at1lete and enjoys all kinds of sports.
Contextual Data:
I collected this story while talking to my friends about the
w'ummery. " Host of us were all familiar wi t1-J the nunnery and each started
t share their experiences that they ha~e had. Tonya's was quite different
s o I decided to tell hers. She heard of this story her senior year of
1ig1 school. She was coming home from a basketball games on t he bus,
and everyone was telling spooky ~tories about the nunnery. One of her
friends told her about this story.
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In Logan Canyon there's a place called st. Ann Retreat, where the
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and t1eir babies were drowned in the pool there. The {uns don't use the
place anymore but who really knows. At night there are many lights on
around the place and it's said to be guarded by a two headed dog. At
times you can even hear the bab~Cries.
As I was talking to Tonya about the Nunnery she told me of an
experience her friend told her. A coupld decided to go to the Nunnery one
night. As they pulled there car on to the bridge the gate was locked.
T~ e y went to get out but heard a Strange sound on t he top of t heir car
so they stayed inside. They both became very frightened and tried to
drive out of their but they felt a strong force. They could hear scratching
noises like something was slowly falling off the car as it drove aw~y.
W~ en the couple got back into Logan they looked at the top of their car
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t he two ~ eaded dog. Tonya talked to someone about it and t hey swear t hat
it is true.
Kristie Murdock Anderson
North Logan, Utah .
North Logan, Utah
Utah State University
English 124
Spring 1989
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Texture --- Every time I tel this legend it still gives me the creeps. The way in which this story is
told is important becau e-it aJmost has to be eerily quiet so that all th _details canoe
heard. The quietness almost lets Y0u.jl,!mp into th~ssene-oftlie legend and actually
visualize what is going on. I also think t at--it:-srather freaky for young girls to hear it
because so many us come in ate« night into the dorms and are quiet trying to get ready
to go to bed or someti es even going to our boyfriend's hOuse. So that makes the legend
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Informant
Kaleo Penoke who currently attends school here at Utah State told this legend to me.
He is a 23-year-old male who is majoring in psychology and will graduate in the spring.
He is Filipino and comes from a rather large family who is Mormon. His hobbies include
riding motorcycles and hiking.
Context
Kaleo told this legend to me last summer when we had decided to go up into Logan
Canyon on a short hike. This legend was not told in any particular way, but just told as
fact and something that really happened. There were three other people who were with
us; two of them knew the story. I think that these others were part of the story because
they could back it up that they to also have heard it. Which gave the legend even more
backup.
As we were hiking up into the Canyon, Kaleo begins telling the story of
"The nunnery" and decides that it's best if we go try to find it. So as we are hiking up to
find this place he starts telling us that back in the 1800's this nunnery was used by the
Catholic nuns as part of a retreat camp. And that sometimes the nuns wouldn't behave
themselves and they would have sexual relations with priests or other Clergy. And that
some of the nuns became pregnant, well legend has it that they would have the baby but
then leave these babies in underground tunnels that were beneath the nunnery and let
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them starve to death. It's even been said that when the nunnery closed for good that
along with the tunnels that were found so were the baby's skeletons. And at night you
can still hear the baby's wails if you get close enough to the nunnery.
Texture
When Kaleo was telling me this story I began to feel a little uneasy. I think it was
because the situation he was telling it in. We were hiking up to find this place and the
sun was beginning to set. All of it tied into the legend and the feelings of being scared or
a bit unsure of the whole idea of a hike after all. The setting in which it was told only
made it seem more likely that it happened. We never did find the nunnery after all, we
searched for about 45 minutes but gave up and I can't say I was the least bit sorry about
it.
Erin Harrison
Logan, Utah 84321
Elk Grove, Ca 95624
Utah State University
Eng! AnthrolHist 526
Roush
Spring Quarter 1998
Supernatural Legend
Saint Anne's Retreat
Informant Data:
Brett Bluth
Logan, UT
1990
Brett Bluth is from Logan, UT. He is LDS. We were friends throughout
high school. He now lives in Provo, UT.
Contextual Data:
When Brett was a child, his babysitter told him this story and said that
it happened to her.
Text:
One day the babysitter and her friends went swimming in the pool at St.
Anne's Retreat. They had been swimming for about 10 minutes. They all got
frozen in the pool, so they couldn't move at all. After a minute they could
all move again, and they got out and left.
Laura Sozio
Logan, UT
Logan, UT
Utah State University
English 124
Fall 1990
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Supernatural Legend
Saint Anne's Retreat
Informant Data:
Justin Eborn
Logan, UT
1990
Justin Eborn is from Montpelier, Idaho. ~e is now serving an LDS mission
in California.
Contextual Data:
I worked with Justin. He told me this story one day at work.
Text:
Justin and his friends decided one night to go to St. Anne's. They heard
dogs barking in the distance; it kept getting closer and closer. They were
standing by a fence and the fence started tilting like there were dogs jumping
against it. They got scared and ran back to the car. Justin couldn't find
his keys, and they weren't in the ignition or in his pocket. They went back
by the fence to find the keys. They couldn't find the keys by the fence and
went back to the car. The keys were swinging in the ignition. As they drove
away, they heard scratching on the car. When they got back to Logan, there
was a scratch on the car.
Laura Sozio
Logan, UT 84321
Logan, UT 84321
Utah State University
English 124
Fall 1990
The Nuns' Baby
Informant:
Rita Gafford
05/05/98
Rita Gafford has been my roommate for seven months. She participates in
various types of recreation, many of which are up Logan Canyon. Rita was raised
in Bountiful Utah in the LDS religion. She is an Exercise Sport Science major at
Utah State University.
Context:
I asked Rita where she was going biking one day and she replied, "up near
the catholic convent". I asked her where that was had she said, "haven't you heard
about the Nun up there?" I replied no. She then proceeded to tell me what a friend
she described only as a "Logan local" had told her. She told the story as if she
personally did not believe it but those who told her wholly believe it.
Text:
Up Logan Canyon there is a convent of some sort. It was a retreat for Nuns.
A long time ago there was a Nun who went and stayed up there to hide out because
she was pregnant. She had her baby and was going to keep it and quit being a Nun
but she was overwhelmed with shame so she had the baby and then killed it and
buried it up by the convent. She was so overcome by guilt that she killed herself.
Late at night, near the convent, you can hear the cry of the baby and many people
have seen the Nun, wandering in the trees in eternal search for her child.
Texture:
Coming from someone who was raised in faith besides the Catholic religion, I
think the story is told with a hint of believability. As it is every Nuns vow to be
celibate, sex and especially pregnancy is so taboo for a Nun. It makes you feel sad to
hear such a story of a mother killing her child out of guilt but leaves room for a
haunting feeling because of this woman wandering Logan canyon in some sort of
eternal shame and misery. It is almost as if this woman is in a type of eternal
damnation and that makes seeing such a being very scary.
Jennifer K. Morrill
Logan, UT.
Sandy, UT.
Utah State University
Supernatural Legend
Nunnery in Logan Canyon
Informant Data:
Robert Trahan
Logan Utah
Summer of 1994
Robert Trahan is from Louisiana, he is 21 years old and is studying Industrial Hygiene at Utah State University.
He likes hiking, loud music, and plays in a rock band called Chubby Amigos. He comes from a family of 6 with 2 other
sisters and his parents who are divorced. Roberts family still lives in Louisiana and he wants to return there after
graduation. Robert is also about as straightforward as they get, he rarely believes anything he hears and jokes about only
serious matters.
Contextual Data:
Robert told this story to four or five of us while we sat on his porch one summer explaining recent hikes we had
been on around the Cache Valley area. The other people in the group had also heard this story from various people.
Some of the people said they heard a different version of the story about the same place from their parents, brothers and
sisters. Supposedly the Man with the dogs had also taken care of the place in the 1930's. The man was accused of
molesting girls there. Once the towns people found out a search held and somehow the old man was found and killed.
by the angered people of the local towns. It seems that all supernatural encounters come from places one should be in
the first place, Le. trespassing on someone property. With all the different variations to the story and the long history of
the Nunnery up Logan canyon I suppose some parts of these stories have some validitity.
Text:
A friend of Roberts, Tim, had the job of taking care of the Nunnery the one summer. Tim had only been there
for one day when he heard a vehicle driving up the d~ward the Nunnery while he was going for a swim. So, Tim
got out of the pool and dried off so he could confront the people about the no trespassing signs posted at the rcrle\
leading to the Nunnery and on the land around the buildings.
When he greeted the vehicle, it was just a bunch of teenage kids out checking the place out. Tim explained to
the young group that they were not supposed to be up there and to tum around and leave promptly. Then one kid
replied that they had already talked to the land tenant, a old man with two dogs, and he gave them permission from them
to visit the buildings as long left everything without a scratch. Tim replied he was land tenant and had been in the pool
swimming for the last 20 minutes. Plus he had haven't seen anyone up here all day and he never seen& ld man with
two dogs.
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Logan Utah, 84321
English 124
Fall '94
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"Saint Ann's Retreat"
Information Data:
Robert Todd Starks
USU Library
January 18,1991
Robert, who goes by Bob, was born in Long Beach California. He
spent most of his childhood in Cache Valley. Bob graduated from
Logan High School and attend Utah State University for a year. He
served as a missionary for the LDS church in Peru for two years. He
is 22 years old and a junior in History at USU. Bob comes from a
white LDS family. He is number five of six children. As a student,
Bob enjoys activities and hobbies such as smgmg, story telling,
motorcycling, and studying languages.
Contextual Data:
Bob first heard about this in his sophomore year of High School.
He was with a group of friend at a party one evening during the
summer. He was told about the story after they had just watched
scary movie. He also heard it several times later through high school.
I have known Bob since his first year at USU. We prclormed together
in a music group. Bob told this to me in his ow'iI words while I
recorded it on tape.
Text:
These guys went up Logan canyon, up to Saint Ann's retreat.
And they were up there and they didn't know about all the stuff that
had happened up there. They were up there playing ball. One guy
threw the ball too far and the other guy ran to catch it. He didn't
catch it. It went in the little pond up there, a little fountain. It's only
about ankle deep and he jumped in the fountain to get the ball and
carry it out, but when he got in the water, he feel in the water and
he couldn't get out. He drowned there in the ankle deep water.
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River Heights, Ut 84321
Utah State University
History 124
Winter, 1991
Religious Legend
"A Haunted Nunnery."
Informant Data:
John Weaver
Logan, Utah
Summer, 1990
John Weaver is a junior at Utah State University
majoring in pre-law. He is the oldest of two children. He
was born in Salt Lake City, Utah but at the age of twelve
his family moved to Clifton, Idaho. John is an active
member of the LDS Church and has served a mission to North
Carolina.
Contextual Information:
John heard this story from one of his roomates. He
related this story to me one day as we were talking about
folklore. The nunnery that is in this story is called St.
Ann's and is located up Logan Canyon in Utah.
Text:
Many years ago and no exact date has been given, a
priest went up to St. Ann's retreat to visit the nuns. Before
he left an early snow storm hit and he was trapped at the
retreat for the winter. When spring came several of the nuns
delivered babies. Because of the disgrace, the mother
superior took all of the babies and put them in the swimming
pool.
As the legend has it, if you were to go to St. Ann's
during a full moon, you will see these nun's ghosts wandering
around the pool crying and the faces of the babies in the
pool.
KaraLyn Litz
Trenton, Utah 84338
Utah State University
History 124
Fall 1990
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LogIIII, Ut
November, 1996
Jason Painter is a mend of mine. He is twenty-five years old and lives in Logan. I met
him through a mutual friend and we have been friends for twelve years. He grew up in Logan
such as I did, and lives here still .
I was ml1cing to Jason in the grocery store and we were reminiscing about our past. We
both grew up having wild mends, especially Jason. Growing up in Logan there is not a lot to do,
so sometimes kids would have to make their own excitement. Jason told me this story that his
friends told him when they were in high school, beck around 1987.
Text:
Word was out all over the local high schools that St. Anne's Nunnery up Logan Canyon,
which has been deserted for years, was haunted by the nuns that once lived there. No one had ever
gone to check it out, however. until one night some teenagers from Preston were drunk and drove
to the nunnery. Some of the boys broke open a door to one of the buildings just as another boy
tripped over a rock and fell into the empty cement swimming pool, cracking open his head. The
party rushed the boy to the hospital, and s the doctors were shaving the boys head to stitch it up,
his friends were shocked to see the cut was in the figure of a perfect large cross, like that of the
catholic church. The kids were all busted for drinking and had to call their parents to come get
them.
T#'.XIIII'e:
I think this legend was told to scare kids from trespassing and vandalizing St. Anne's.
The fact the kids were dnmlc (sin) and vandalizing a sacred place of tile nun's set up tile stoJy for a
climax. The boys were scared by the eerie sight of the cross. and they were then punished by
getting caught with alcohol. This is 1Iying to show that ifpeople do wrong to sacred religious
places, they will be punished.
JmMojJitt
Log"", Ut
u.s.u.
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Urban Legend
"St. Ann's Nunnery"
Informant data:
Jeff Adams
Logan, Utah
October 1995
Jeff Adams is originally from Plain City Utah. He is thirty-four
years old and has made Logan Utah his home ~ince he graduated from Utah
State University ten years ago.' Jef has three degrees, one in ftl ath, one in
Physics, and one i~ Philo~ophy and W now commutes to Ogden /UtahJeach
day to work as a stock J3roker. He is also an active member of the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and spends most of his free time
playing basket-ball or engaging in his churches activities.
Contextual data:
Jeff told me about St. Ann's Nunnery one day when we passed it
driving up Logan Canyon. Because Jeff has lived in Logan for quite a few
years now, he is more than familiar with local stories and , he asked me if
had heard about this one. I said no, and he proceeded to tell me that. ..
St. Ann's is haunted by all the nuns that used to be there at the
beginning of the conventb history. You see if a nun got pregnant and they
needed to keep it hush, hush they would send her up to this nunnery in the
canyon where they could keep it quiet from society. Anyway, when the
babies were born they would drown them in the fountain and then throw
the bodies off the cliff. Now days, when the wind blows you can hear the
crying of those babies and the nunnery is always completely clean because
for penance the ghosts of the nuns must clean it for eternity. Yeah, man. I
guess you can still see the blood in spots around there too.
Eric Jensen
Logan, Ut. 84321
S.L.C. Ut. 84105
History 526
Spring Quarter 1996
Campfire story
saint Ann's Retreat
Informant Data:
Chalyce Petersen
smithfield utah
July 1990
I am nineteen years old and attending utah state University.
I was born in California and lived there for several years before
moving to Utah. My father is a Professor of Economics at USU. I am
the oldest of four girls and I love to dance, sing, and play tennis.
I really enjoy being outdoors, yet I hate insects and have discovered
that I am still afraid of the dark. My friends always love to take me
camping because I scare easily and make a big deal out of everything.
Contextual Data:
My friends and I had planned a camping trip one weekend, but
on the day scheduled for the big trip it rained really hard. We
decided that we were "rugged" enough to brave the rains and headed up
smithfield Canyon anyway. I didn't get off work until nine, so by
the time we got to a good spot it was already late and too dark to set
up our tent. We figured we would have to sleep under the stars.
After several "animal attacks" we snuggled down in our sleeping bags.
Brian (a friend) began telling the story of the retreat called st.
Ann's which is just up Logan Canyon. I had heard several versions of
the story before, but his had a "fact" at the end which I had never
heard before. This is his version of the story:
Text:
About forty years ago, a retreat was founded up Logan Canyon
by the families of children who were what you would call "problem
children." A group of nuns headed by a "Saint Ann" were responsible
for the kids. One girl, who was fifteen, had been sent to the retreat
because she was pregnant and was an embarrassment to -her family.
When she finally gave birth to the baby, she was instructed
to sign the child over to the state for adoption. She refused because
she wanted to keep the child for her own. When the Church officials
insisted that she sign the necessary papers, she decided that if she
couldn't have the child, no one would. She flung the baby off the
roof of the housing quarters. The sisters tried to clean up the mess,
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but the blood stains would not come off. They tried everything and
finally decided that the child must have been Satan's. One of the
sisters took the baby's body and bricked it up in the wall of the
chapel where you can still hear it crying.
Many strange things have reportedly happened there since
then. Many believe that the retreat never was controlled by a "Saint
Ann", but that the real name of the guardian of the retreat was
actually "Satan."
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Chalyce Petersen
Logan, Utah
Utah State University
Hist 124
Summer Quarter 1990
Supernatural Non-Religious Legend
"The Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Carrie Anderson
Logan, Ute
February, 1987
Carrie Anderson is 15 years old and a sophmore in high school. She was born
and raised in Cokeville, Wyo. She is currently living in Logan Ute with her father,
my husband, and myself through the school year, and in Cokeville, Wyo. in the
summer. She also has a mother that lives in Salt Lake, and a married sister that
lives in Fort Bridger, Wyo. Carrie is active in school sports, and enjoys playing
the piano, and riding horses and motorcycles. She has no religious preference
at this time.
~ntextual Data:
I gathered this story from Carrie a year ago when I was looking for urban
legends for a storytelling class I was taking at USU. She had heard this story
from several of her friends at Sky View High School.
Text:
The nunnery is a place up Logan canyon where priests and nuns go for a rest.
If you go up there at midnight, you can see dead babies floating in the swimming
pool that were drowned by the nuns. These are babies that the nuns had had in sin.
You can also hear the cries of the nuns and the babies when you go up there.
There is also a ghost of a guy with an ax that runs around up there chasing
anyone who comes up there.
Tona Anderson
USU
History 124
Spring, 1988
"St. Anne's Retreat"
Local Legend
Informant:
David Francis
Logan, Utah
Fall,2000
David Francis is twenty-five, he's my brother-in-law. Previously, he has been very active
in the Boy Scouts of America. He, himself, was an Eagle Scout. David was also a
scoutmaster for many years, as well as a camp counselor. He has a real love for the
scouting tradition and for sirting around the campfire and telling stories. It's really hard
not to think of Dave when I think of the Boy Scouts.
Context:
David was giving me the legends he had heard about St. Anne's and the witch, Hekkadi.
He wasn't sure of the connection between the witch and the nunnery, but he was able to
give me some information about it. Some of the information Dave got from his
involvement with scouts, and some he got from his mother.
Text:
You've heard of the nunnery, up by Second Dam. Well, kids used to go up there in
groups and try and scare each other. It was supposed to be haunted, because supposedly
the nuns a lot of times would get pregnant from the priests, but to hide their sins, they
would kill the babies and bury them so no one found out. That's why it was supposed to
be haunted. Also up there, there was a witch. Her name was Hekkadi, and she would
chase you if she got the chance. There are two different ways that I heard the Hekkadi
legend. In both versions though, she has these two huge black dogs with glowing, red
eyes. In one version, if you go up to the nunnery and Hekkadi finds you, she'll chase
you, but if you can out run her and the dogs and make it to the road, they always stop at
the road. In the other version, Hekkadi and her two dogs would be out in the middle of
the Logan Canyon Road, and it would look like you were going to hit her, but then by the
time you went to- swerve, Hekkadi and her dogs were gone.
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I tried to follow Dave pretty close on this one, because it's one I heard about almost from
the time I first got to Utah, in fact it was the first piece of local color that I had learned. I
never did get a sense of whether or not David believed the legends and he, himself, has
never been up to the nunnery. However, he was pretty calm as he told it, and he didn't
seem to nervous or anything like that. This was another narrative that I got from Dave
when he, Carrie, Ann-Michelle, and I were at McDonalds, having a "cool treat" as David
calls them.
Rob Gombach
Logan, UT
USU
History 3700
Professor Thomas
Fall 2000
supernatural Legend
"st. Anne's Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Tyler Singleton
Providence, utah
April 8, 1994
Tyler is nineteen years old and is a good friend of mine.
He is the second of five children. He is a member of the LDS
Church and lives in Providence, utah. He attended Utah State
University earlier this year (1994), but now is serving a LDS
mission in Berlin, Germany. Tyler's hobbies are snow skiing,
water skiing and camping.
Contextual Data:
st. Anne's is an old abandoned convent near the mouth of
Logan Canyon. It is commonly called the nunnery. It seems to be
a "rite of passage" with high school kids to go to the nunnery
and see if they dare to perform the "rituals" associated with it.
One of the "rituals" is to take a glass bottle to the nunnery and
throw it into the empty swimming pool. They say if it doesn't
break, then you are safe, but if it breaks then Satan is with you
for the rest of the night. If the bottle breaks then when you
drive down the canyon you can see two pair of red eyes in your
rear~iew mirror (the eyes are from the two dogs that attacked a
nunn) and you can see a nunn ~standing on the side of the road
holding a baby.
Tyler told this story while we were camping in Providence
canyon. Everyone was sitting around the campfire telling stories
so Tyler told this story to try to scare the girls and also to
dare anyone to go to the nunnery with him that night. Tyler was
told this story one night by some older kids (he was fourteen
then) while they were on their way to the nunnery.
Everyone who had heard the story already didn't think
anything of it, but those who hadn't, mostly the girls, were
scared and absolutely refused to go to the nunnery that night.
Text:
There was this old nunnery up Logan Canyon where there were
some nunns. Some of the nunns would get pregnant and have their
babies there, then kill them and bury them out behind one of the
buildings. One time one of the nunns wouldn't kill her baby so
she was kicked out of the nunnery, so she went back into the
valley and raised the baby. One day she went back to visit her
friends at the nunnery. All of the nunns loved the baby and
would sit and play with it. This made the head nunn mad and
worried that the other nunns would want to keep their babies. So
she asked to hold the baby. When she got the baby, she threw it
into the swimming pool and killed it - that's why you can see a
red spot on the side of the swimming pool. The nunn who's baby
it was started running away, so the head nunn sent two dogs after
her to kill her. In the morning when the head nunn got up the
two dogs were skinned, hanging in the trees.
Justin Jacobson
Nibley, UT
Nibley, UT
Utah State University
History 124
Spring 1994
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"The Nunnery"
Religious Legend
Informant:
Ryan Hill
Logan, Utah
November, 1999
Ryan is a hyperactive Logan local. He has a knack for knowing everyone we see in town
or on campus. Ryan is the second youngest of nine children. He comes from a middleclass
active LDS family. At present, he is not enrolled in school, but rather works on a
house framing crew full-time.
Context:
I collected this story at my apartment after dinner. Ryan and his younger sister, Melanie,
showed up after other people had already been telling stories. This is apparent when he
asks what the tape-recorder is for. Because he was the only Logan local present (besides
Melanie), no one else really could comment on these stories.
Text:
Ryan: Oh, you don't know about "The Nunnery!" Okay here's the rumor on "The
Nunnery." Like supposedly ... are you recording?
Colby: Yeah.
Ryan: You rat-bastard!
Colby: I'm sorry, dude. I thought you knew.
Ryan: Hell no. Ah man, now I can't do this.
Colby: Come on man, you were doing so well. Please, just keep going.
Ryan: Okay, the nunnery ... supposedly, this priest, like he had all these nuns up there and
it's up Logan Canyon, I can take you up there if you want ...
Sam: I've been there.
Ryan: It's like ten miles up Logan Canyon. And the deal is this priest killed a bunch of
children, and all the nuns there and then killed himself. So this place is haunted as hell.
And like supposedly you can go up there and find little graves of small children, and you
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know you hear some real weird shit. But you can actually see some weird shit, because I
was sober up there one time, and I saw some shit you shouldn't be seein'.
Colby: So you've been there?
Ryan: Oh yeah, I've been up there a few times.
Colby: Right on. How did you hear about it?
Ryan: Urn, It's just like a local legend. Everybody who lives in Logan knows about it.
Colby: So who told you?
Ryan: I don't know ...
Sam: But there was something that happened after that with some people up there ...
Ryan: Yeah, some of the locals I know went up there, and there were these two security
guards, which there shouldn't be guards up there anyway. But these guards tied them up,
and the whole story got blown completely out of proportion, but I got the true story from
them. They tied them up, and threatened their lives, but they never had dynamite tied to
them or anything.
Sam: I just heard they had shotguns.
Ryan: Yeah, like they were threatened with their lives. And then they let them go, or
something.
Ben: And now everybody knows
Ryan: Yeah.
Context:
Out of all the stories I collected, this was the one that was most believable. Everyone I
the room was interested in what Ryan had to say. The way he related his own personal
experience at the nunnery was a key factor in this, I think. I noticed the way he says,
''Everybody who lives in Logan knows about it." This to me shows the exclusiveness of
local stories and rumors. Only a true local would know about these stories.
Colby M. Thurston
Logan, Utah
USU
Engljsh 27DO
Professof1rhcrnas
Fall 1999
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Urban Legend
Nunnery
Informant Data:
Amy Brewson
Logan, Utah
July 1995
Amy is a friend. She was born, raised and schooled in Logan
Utah. She is at the present time going to Utah State University,
where she is getting her masters in Biology . She has been married
for almost one year.
Contextual Data:
In the beginning of my Math 105 class, I told a legend to pass
the time. After I told my legend Amy told a legend of a Nunnery
which is found up in the Logan Cannon.
Item:
A nun got pregnant at the nunnery but didn't want the baby.
So, she placed the babies body in a brick wall of the nunnery.
Now if a first born ~up to the nunnery the first born will
die.
Jeri Justis
Logan, Utah
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
USU
History 124
Summer 1995
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Supernatural Non-religious Legend
"The Haunting of Saint Ann's Retreat"
Informant Data:
Kim Lamb
Logan, Utah
August, 1983
Kim Lamb was a very good friend of mine with whom I worked with at a local pizzeria
while going through high school. He was born in Logan in 1964. Kim is very enthusiastic and
energetic and enjoys having a good time. He comes from a non LDS background. Kim is
presently living in California with his wife and two children.
Contextual Data:
I collected this story when a group of my friends and I where trying to find something to
do after work one night. It was in the summer at about 12:30 p.m. We really did not know what
we wanted to do, but we where feeling mischievous and wanted an adventure. Kim told us of the
"haunted retreat" up in Logan canyon and talked us in to going there after relating the story to us.
At the time it was the first that I had ever heard of the retreat, but since then I have heard many
variations of the legend from many people. Saint Ann's is located about twenty miles up Logan
Canyon and owned by the Catholic church. It has not been used for many years as a nunnery.
There is an interesting cross-over of two local legends in Kim's version. It is said that the spirit
of a witch known as Heceta will appear on a bridge in Logan canyon if anyone goes to the spot
and yells her name three times. This story was originally separate from the murder legend of
Saint Ann's, but the two have come together in most of the narratives that I have heard since
Kim related it to us the first time.
Text:
Saint Ann's retreat was a place of spiritual solitude and peace where Catholic nuns would
spend the summer months. At any given time there would be fifteen or twenty nuns at the retreat
doing various activities. The Mother Superior of the nunnery was a woman by the name of
Heceta, who governed the nunnery very strictly. There where those in the Church who believed
that Heceta possessed unique supernatural abilities and was possibly involved in witchcraft, but
it could never be proven. One terrible night a gang of bikers who had heard of the defenseless
nuns in the canyon raided the nunnery. They viciously raped several of the nuns including
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Heceta whom they murdered. Before she died she vowed vengeance on the gang of bikers and
swore that the nunnery would be a damned place from that day foreword.
It so happened that everyone of the bikers involved in the attack on the nunnery where
savagely killed themselves. They died horrible deaths being ripped apart by what appeared to
investigators to be dog attacks. The Catholic church closed the nunnery after the attack by the
bikers and it has never been used since. If anyone dares go to the nunnery at night and yells the
name "Heceta" three times her crazed spirit will be heard crashing through the trees behind a
pack of demonic hell dogs with glowing red eyes. Those who have seen the apparition swear
that they did not think they would live to tell it. The spirit of Heceta will not cross over the river
bridge however, and her demon dogs cannot harm anyone on the other side.
Shawn Lawlor
River Heights, Utah
USU
English 526
Dr. Roush
Fall 1995
Item 03
Legend: Logan Canyon Nunnery
Informant Data:
Britany Holmgren
Logan, Utah
November, 1995
Britany Holmgren is a 19 year-old resident of Logan, Utah. She
studies at Utah State University. She is on the USU Ballroom
Dance Team. Britany is the oldest of five children. She and
her family are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday
Saints. She grew up in Fielding, Utah. Her hobbies include
floral design, craft making, and roller blading. Her family owns
Belmont Hot Springs in Plymouth, Utah. She works for her family
in the summer time.
Contextual data:
I was told this story by Britany while researching and compiling
legends for English 526 at Utah State University. She said that
this legend is true. She herself has visited the site at Logan
Canyon where the legend originates from, and the actual swing
mentioned in the Legend is there still. I believe that this
legend is a product of the ignorance that many people have about
religions that are not as dominant in this area of the United
States. Perhaps if we understood nuns, and did not hold them in
such mystery, this legend would not be told.
In Logan Canyon is a defunct nunnery. It is closed and
gaited. This is where a gruesome murder took place, and where
hauntings have occurred ever since. Long ago, when the nunnery
was still housing nuns, one cloistered sister became pregnant by
her own transgression. She carried the child to term, and raised
it until it was two years old. In the yard of the nunnery,
bordering the Logan River, is a swing that the nuns would swing
the child from. One afternoon the child was being swung by it's
mother. Because the child was a product of sin, it flew
violently into the river. The nun/mother had shoved her child
into the river. Now the child cries when the river swells.
D. Reed Cowan
Logan, Utah
Utah State
University
English 526
Professor Roush
Fall 1995
Supernatural Legend
"Saint Anns Camp"
Informant Data:
Jake Winegar
Logan, utah
April 1990
Jake is a friend I met at the beginning of the quarter. Jake moved
from Colorado to Utah with his parents in July of 1989. He came to utah
State University in September of 1989 to major in Business Adminestration.
Jake has three sisters one brother, three stepsisters and one stepbrother.
Contextual Data:
I herd this story and a few others while we were camping two miles up
Logan canyon. There were about ten of us, we were sitting around a campfire
drinking and toasting marshmallows. Jake decided he wanted to tell
stories to see if he could scare us. We all decided to listen. Some of
the people believed in the story, some had ~r another version of the
story and some looked at Jake skeptically. He succeeded in scaring a few
of the people. Jake can be very convincing at times, because he belie"-Els
in all of his stories. I have herd different versions before and since
the story was told.
Text:
There is a place here in Logan canyon called Saint Anns Camp. It used
to be a convent for nuns in the eighteen hundreds. The story goes, one
nun became pregnant, maybe her name was Saint Ann. When she had her baby,
in fear of the church, she drowned the baby in a near by brook near a
bridge. A few days went by and the nun began to feel guilty so she jumped
off the highest tower of the convent. A few years later, after the
nunnery closed, people reported strange happenings. Some have reported
seeing an angry spirit of a child who plays tricks on the people. Others
have seen the women in morning walking around the comvent.
Esther Gates
Logan utah
Ohio
USU
English/History 124
Surrmer 1990
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Contextual Data:
I've heard many legends about the Nunnery located in
Logan Canyon but I heard this version for the first time
from Greg. He heard the story when he came to Utah State to
go to -:·c h oCll •
Dat.:..:
Ther'e v..l er·e ,:to group of nun':· 1 it) i nl;i .:.. t the nlJnnery .:..
number of years ago. It seems that one of the nun's
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do with the pregnant nun.
When she finally had the baby the other nun's
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con·:.p i r'ed ,:t.g,:t. i nst her' to r' i d the nunner)-" clf the fru it fr'clm
this unholy union. One night at midnight they stole the baby
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and drowned him in the shallow pool near the nunnery.
The mother went crazy when she learned of the babies
death and began to wander the hi I Is at night in search of
her lost child. When it came time for the other nuns to
leave, she refused to go and I ived on in the abandoned
buildings as a hermit, a social outcast. She still haunts
the nunnery to this da~ and some people claim that you can
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still hear her call ing for her dead child, her cries ringing
off the surrounding hills.
J.:..ce-::.on H21.ugh2<.n
1.•. Je 1 I:.',! i I I e
U.~LU
Erll;t. 124
Spr' i ng 1990
T.egend
The Nuns
T.nformant Data:
Camille is a student a Utah Shate Unjversity.
old. She ws born in 19-,0 in Millville Utah, and
all of her life. She is well traveled and has
twice. Camille enjoys musi~ and motorcycles.
ready with a story.
Contextual Data:
Camille Mathys
Logan Utah
Feb. J990
She j s 20 years
has lived there
visi ted Europe
She is always
We were driving up the Logan Canyon on our way to go skjing
at Beaver Mountain. I was enjoying the scenery and marveling at
the canyon when Camille told me that all was not beautiful in the
canyon and that some pretty creepy things went on in the canyon.
Thjs is one of the stories she told.
Text:
A long time ago there was a nunnery in the canyon. It was
very reclusive and no one knew much about it. But it wasn't a
Catholic nunnery, it was a djfferent reljgion. Any way some thjng
happened at the nunnery and all the nuns were killed. No one
really knows what happened, but jt was Satanical. Well one of the
nuns was cursed and now she roams the canyon with her black dog and
her cane. If you see her, run, cause if she sees you, you will die
within the month. She is usually seen only at night along the road
and most people say she only walks during a full moon, but you
never really know when you will meet her, so be careful.
Donna Chipman
Pocatello ID
USU
English 124
Spring 1990
Supernatural Legend
"The Nunnery"
Informal Data:
Lynley Thompson
Logan, Utah
April 1990
Lynley married my nephew, since then we've become friends.
She was born and raised in an active LDS family in Richmond,
Utah. Lynley is presently attending Utah State University. One
year ago Lynley gave birth to her first baby. Now she lives in
Logan with her husband and daughter.
contextual Data:
Lynley learned this story from a group of high school
friends. One of the boys told this story when they drove by the
nunnery in Logan Canyon.
Lynley and I were talking about how some people believe in
ritualism when she told me this story.
Text:
There is an old nunnery that has been closed down for years
in Logan Canyon. Between the Catholic Chapel and the living
quarters was a swimming pool. The priest that ran the place was
very strict. If one of the nuns ever became pregnant he would
make them drown their newly born baby in the swimming pool.
The ritual is that if you go the the nunnery at midnight
when the moon is full, you'll see the nuns' spirits standing
around the swimming pool crying.
Sonya Thompson
USU
History 124
Spring 1990
Logan, UT
Supernatural legend
The nunnery
Brett Gibbons
Logan, Utah
February, 1990
Informant Data: ()
Brett Gibbons was a friend of mine in high school in Smithfi ild) Utah. He lives In
LewistonlUtah where his family owns a farm .. He is a very active person, and is a avid
football lover.
Contextual Data:
I collected this story while riding up the canyon to visit the nunnery. The group we
were with were mostly girls. When I heard the story, part of the group didn't believe it. The
other half were a little bit more believing. Some of them had heard the story before. It had
been a little different than the one being told.
Text: r
About twenty years ago there were a bunch of n s living at the nunnery. Well they
were the ones that had become pregnant, so the church would send them there. When the
nuns would have the babies they would drown them in the pool. Because they did this, the
ghosts of the babies haunt the houses. They say there is a blue dog that will drive you away
if you go there. It's the protector of the babies spirits. I know a man who said he saw the
blue dog one night down by the river. And I don't think he would lie.
Matt Checketts
Hyde Park , Utah
English 526
Fall 1994
"The Legends about St. Anne's Nunnery"
Informant:
Laura Adams Schenk
during a phone conversation in Nibley, Utah
22 November, 1997
Laura is of English descent, and grew up in Hyrum, Utah. She is my sister-in-law and friend. She
is a first grade teacher in her late 30s. She is LDS. She heard this legend while she was still attending Sky
View high school; she was a typical high school girl, involved with such activities as the marching band
and the school newspaper. She was (and is) friendly and social, and had high grades. She has two sisters
close to her own age, and a younger brother. She currently lives not far from my house in Nibley, Utah.
Context:
I had actually phoned her to talk to my brother, Clair, but Laura and I are good friends and I told
her about my folklore class. She was fascinated as I told her about some of the legends we had been
studying. "Oh, I love stories like that!" she exclaimed. After I told her "The Hook" and some of the
analyses of it that we had discussed in class, she commented, "Oh, really? You learned about that in your
class? Because I always thought that was true. Even, like, St. Anne's-I thought that was true 'til just a
little while ago, you know, with the stuff that happened this summer." During the summer of 1997, some
teenagers had been snooping up around St. Anne's Nunnery, looking for ghosts. They were caught, tied
up, thrown in a pool, and generally harassed by the guards there. It was quite an incident to have happened
in quiet Cache Valley, Utah. Months later, everyone was still talking about it. I asked Laura to tell me
what she knew about St. Anne's, and she obliged me in an animated tone:
Text:
About St. Annes-I thought it was true until I read about it in the paper this summer. But I heard,
like, there were ghosts there, that all the nuns had been murdered or something. And there was a fire or
something and that's why the nuns were all gone. But it wasn't that at all, the nuns left and they left
because of all the vandalism and stuff, and the fire was actually from vandalism, not ghosts or whatever.
What was the true story they told you in class? Because I thought it was haunted, so that's what drove the
nuns away, or killed them, or whatever. But I heard about the nunnery in high school, and I thought,
"Ooooh! I want to go up there!" But I never did, and it's probably good I didn't, because I might've ended
up tied up in a pool!
Texture:
Laura and I swapped several stories, but the reason I chose this one to use for the assignment is
that she incorporated both the new information she had learned about St. Anne's, and the old information
about St. Anne's that she had heard in high school,into her telling of the legend. I think the St. Anne's
story has a lot of potential to change over the years in this way. I think that eventually, the guards who
attacked the teenagers will be incorporated into the St. Anne's legends, and changed into ghosts or evil
spirits, through the telling and retelling of the legends.
Bonnie Lou Schenk
Nibley, Utah 84321
Utah State University
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Anthropology 526: Legends, Myths, and Folktales
Dr. Jan Roush
Fall Quarter, 1997
"The Nunnery"
Informant:
Emily Allen
Logan, Utah
November 1997
Emily Allen is 21, a junior who is majoring in Sociology and is a friend of my
friend who I don't know very well. She likes to go to parties and drink, but being a
college student is too poor to drink to much.
Context:
Since this assignment was next to impossible for me to complete, and no matter
who I asked they didn't seem to have any stories to tell it was amazing that Emily could
think of something to tell. She had heard this story a lot and had asked me if I had
heard it. My husband, when she brought it up remembered reading the legend in the
school newspaper.
Text:
Well, in the nunnery there was one priest, who wasn't very good, and all the rest
were women. Well, the priest got one of the nuns pregnant. He told her not to tell
anyone about it, so she didn't, and she had the baby. After she had the baby the priest
took it and drowned it in the pool. The poor nun didn't know what had happened to the
baby. Well, one day the puppy dog that they had around there dug up the baby's body
where it had been buried in a shallow grave in the backyard. The nun saw the body
and went crazy and killed herself. Because she killed herself she they had an
investigation, and they found out that the priest was some kind of satan worshipper
and was really evil. They say that you can still see blood in the pool and the nun is
wandering around up there crying. Of course I don't believe it its just something that
they tell.
Texture:
This story was told with mild disgust for how awful the tale was, and also for the
fact that people tell such unbelievable tales. Emily said that she had heard it alot and
that it was ridiculous. She said, "its just a thing that they tell" with a wave of her hand to
Christen C. de Groot
Informant Data:
Myself
Girls Camp
Summer 1986
My name is Chelise Young. I was born at Dixie General
Hospital in St. George Utah. I was raised in Cache Valley and I
am now married and still live in Cache Valley. I am twenty-one
years old and I am a junior at Utah State University. I am
expecting my first child.
Contextual Data:
I collected this item at a girls camp in the summer of 1986.
The camp was held up Logan Canyon just around the corner from St.
Annes Camp (commonly referred to as "The Nunnery"). When the
story was told, it was dark and a group of us was sitting around
the campfire telling stories and singing songs. All of us were
leery of the area and the story only heightened our fears that we
were not alone. I feel that the reason it was told was not to
frighten us but rather to scare us a little and give us the
chills.
Text:
A long time ago The Nunnery used to be in full working order
and girls were sent there by their families under similar
circumstances as the ones under which we are attending camp
tonight. The girls were to have a retreat in which they would
learn better social qualities and in some situations, some
manners. It was a type of summer boarding school. For many of
the girls, coming to The Nunnery was something that was
anticipated and looked forward to with much delight.
On one particular occasion, however, the girls that were
selected all had one thing in common. They were all expecting.
Anyway, they were up at The Nunnery and many gave birth there.
The nuns, not wanting the illegitimate babies to be raised by the
irresponsible girls, drowned them in the pool. Since that time,
the spirit of the nun that was in charge of the drownings has
haunted the area. She comes out mostly at night and carries a
lantern. More often than not she is accompanied by a large black
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dog that helps her search for other girls in need of "help". If
you happen to see her, don~t look at her directly because if you
make eye contact, and if you have anything to hide, she will hunt
you down and she and the dog will take you back to the nunnery
where she can "take care" of you as well.
Chelise Young
USU
English 526
Fall 1994
Logan, Utah 84321
Logan, Utah 84321
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UrtliJn Legend
"St. Anne's Retreat"
Informant Data:
rvlyse 1 f
Logan .. Utah
April 1967
.Jennifer Nelson is a senior at USU maJoring in English. She is an
active LDS member. She was born in Colorado in 1964) and has lived in
Logan since 1970. Her ancestry is Swedish} Danish} and British. She
served an LDS mission in Japan.
Contextual Data:
I attended Gi rl's Camp up Logan Canyon dw-i ng most of rny teenage
years. In the evening we v'lould sit around the campfire and tell scary
stories} faith promoting stories} silly stories, and we sang songs. I heard
lots of varying stories and repeated many related to St. Anne's Retreat at
high school parties.
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There is a place up Logan Canyon called St. Anne's Retreat. It used to
be a nunnery, but since then a lot of stories have developed and spread
obout a rnurderer sloughtering several nuns and leo\ling the rest to go
insane.
I went up there once with 0 group of fri ends in hi gh school. There
were some bi g dog houses and someone told rne there had been bi g guard
dogs to protect the nuns, but a murderer- came and slit their throats--but
you coul d still hear thern barki ng somet i meso There was al so an ernpty
swirnming pool. Some of the nuns were thrown into the pool after bein!~
killed .. or forced to Jump into the empty pool, splattering themselves on
• the deep., hard bottom. I think a few nuns were remaining .. but they went
insane and it became unsafe for anyone to go up there.
Several years ago I heard that someone wanted to sell the place or
rebuil d it for a surnmer ctlrnp p 1 tlce, but the p 1 elt"iS were never deve 1 oped-rnaybed
because of the scary stori es and 1 egends ossoci ated wi th tt"le
place.
....Iennifer- Nelson
Logan, UT 84321
Utah State University
English 524
Spring 1987
Supernatural Legend
"Witch Hekeda"
Informant Data:
Steven Rakes
Logan, Utah
April, 1990
Steven Rakes is a 27 year-old, white male who was born in Florida, but
has lived in Logan, Utah for the last twelve years. After moving out West
with his family, he graduated from Logan High School in 1980. Steve and his
family are converts of the LDS faith, of which Steve is semi-actively involved.
Steve is happily married to Lani. They have been married for
three years and they have a 14 month_old baby boy. Steve enjoys camping
out in the canyons, fishing, basketball and collecting baseball cards as
well as other memorabilIa. Steve keeps up on unusual events and seems to
always have something interesting to say. Steve is employed in Logan by
a downtown businessman. He works with the general public in retail.
Contextual Data:
I collected the item from Steve while visiting with him at his place
of employment. He was helping me with some work (framing of pictures) . I
needed done. When I asked Steve if he was familiar with any legends from
this area, he told me of a story he heard from a friend about six years
ago while camping up Logan Canyon. There were several other people around
the fire as the story was told that cool, Fall evening. They were all
friends and they were sharing strange and bizarre occurrences they had
encountered in the past.
Text: There is a lady who lives up Spring Hollow within five miles from
here, who is known by many as Witch Hekeda. She carries a blue lantern at
night and has a pack of wild, ferocious dogs, who escort her through the
mountains of these parts. If you drive your car to the top of Spring
Hollow and turn off your lights, wait a moment or two and the callout
"Hekeda" three times in to the dark silence, you will soon: hear the pack
of dogs making their way toward you, becoming louder and louder. Then in
the distance you will see the glowing of a blue light. You may try this
yourself, but I wouldn't recommend it. When he put this to the test, he
got more than he bargained for . The dogs swarmed around his car like bees
to a hive. The blue light was directly in front of his car. Luckily,
he managed to start his car and speed off. Terrified to death, he raced
down to the bottom of the canyon. Upon getting out of his car, he noticed
Cory Christensen
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Deep gouges and scratches over the entire body of his car. He was lucky to
be alive.
Cory Christensen
Logan, Utah
Logan, Utah
Utah State University
English 124
Spring 1990
Legend
The Old Nunnery
Marie-Elena Andino
Student Center, USU
March, 1985
Marie-Elena was born in El Salvador, and moved to the
United States about 7 years ago. She is attending
Utah State University and works on Helpline, a community
crisis line.
I was in the Helpline office, when Jim, a volunteer told
a legend about a nunnery up Logan canyon. After he
finished the story, Marie-Elena offered a different version
about the same place, with some of the details the same.
She said she had heard many different versions, including
the one that Jim told. The one told by Jim, was about
an insane man who murdered the nuns. The one Marie-Elena
heard tells of a man who kills t~ babies that the nuns
accidently have. Other volunteers offered even different versions.
"The same cabin up in Logan Canyon is the sett i ng for th i s story
too. Appajently its a real nice cabin, both inside and
out. Really fancy. And like Jim said, it has a swimming
pool in back. Anyway, no one lived in it, except when
Priests or whoever got nuns pregnant the nuns would go up
to this cabin and hide. The cabin was owned by the Catholic
church. Anyway, they had their babies, and then would kill
them and bury them under the swimming pool, or drown them
in the water. Now if you go up there, you can hear the
babies wailing from beneath the pool, or from within the
water."
Mary Lynn Pedersen
Logan, Utah 84321
S.L.C., Utah 84121
Utah State Univ.
Hi story 124
Winter, 1985
1-1.,/I'2 . IQI
Legend
Old Nunnery
Jim Davidson
Student Center, USU
March, 1985
Jim, who is orignally from Pennslyvania, is a transfer student
from Weber State. Having lived in Ogden, Utah until he transfered
to Utah State, Jim has only lived in Logan a few months. He is
now attending Utah State, and is a volunteer worker for Helpline,
a community crisis line.
Several st~dents and I were in the Helpline Office when I asked if
anyone knew of any legends. Jim asked if I knew the one about the
cabin in Logan canyon. I said no, so he proceeded to tell the
version that he was most aquainted with. Several others in the office
offered details that they had heard, and when he was finished,
another volunteer told the version that she had heard. Jim said that
he was suprised that I hadn't heard it, because it was popular in
Logan and he had heard it several times, though he's only lived here
a few months. Someone suggested that we turn out the lights, and
everyone laughed.
"There is this really nice cabin up Logan canyon. And they have an
outdoor swimming pool. I mean this is really a luxury place, all
nice inside and everything. Rumor has it that it used to be a nunnery,
a convant. One night, on Halloween this insane man raped and
murdered all the nuns and thr ew them into the swimming pool. Now ,
if you go up on Halloween you see all these nuns looking for _their
murderer, and they'll chase you to see if you are the one that killed
them. II
Mary Lynn Pedersen
Logan, Utah 84321
S.L.C., Utah 84121
Utah State Univ.
History 124
Wi nter, 1985
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Gregory Skabelund
Logan, Utah.
January 27, 1985
Legend
"The Weeping Nun"
Informant Data:
Gregory Skabe1und was born and raised in Logan, Utah. He
is a graduate of Utah State University in history.
He is married and the father of two young sons. He works
at a local bank. He is my brother.
Contextual data:
Text:
Sitting in our home library one night with the lights
out, my family and I watched the deer in our backyard.
All of a sudden, scary stories became the main topic of
conversation and my brother told this one.
About forty years ago, in Logan Canyon at Saint Anne's
Retreat, there lived a nun. One day this nun committed
a grievious sin. She felt terribly sorry for her sin
and weeped every night because of it. Finally one
evening in the summer, the nun took a long rope, wrapped
it around a tree limb and hung herself.
Today, if you go up into the canyon on a summer night
and listen carefully, you can still hear the nun weeping
at Staint Anne's Retreat.
Marcie Skabelund
Logan, Utah
Utah State University
History 124
Winter 1985.
Legend
"The 1'-1ad Caretaker"
Informant Data:
Tim RracJfield
Logan, Utah
Spring 1'3'34
Tim Bradfield, a friend of mine, and Logan Native.
Tim graduated from Logan High in 1983. He is presently
employed as the caretaker at Saint Ann's Retreat in Logan
Canyon. He is non-denominational in religion and of
Scandinavian and English decent.
Contextual Data:
Tim learned this legend through the previous caretaker
at the retreat. He told me this legend while giving me a
tour of the grounds. The small doll house in which the
story takes place seems to be out of place with the rest of
the grounds.
There was a rich family who first built and owned Saint
Ann's F.:et r eat. They had a small girl and there was also a
caretake"r. The caretaker supposedly was possessed by some
spirit that haunted the grounds. The caretaker killed the
child in the doll house with an axe.
Jim Zahmel
Logan,
USU
Utah
History 124
Spring 1994
"The Nunnery"
Legend
Informant:
Jaime Saltern
River Heights, Utah
April, 2002
Jaime Saltern is the wife of Co by Saltern, who is a co-worker of mine. Jaimejust
recently had a baby boy named Max. She works at the hospital as a medical assistant.
She is 28 and she is from Smithfield Utah. She is currently living in River Heights and
she is an excellent fisherman.
Context:
I went over to the Saltern's house to have Coby sign his informant release form on his
story and that is when Jaime told me about "The Nunnery" that is up Logan Canyon on
the river. She told the story with fear in her voice.
Text:
Jaime said that the property was previously a nunnery where nuns lived and did their
thing. They would bring up young girls to be trained as nuns. There would be boys that
would sneak into it and get the girls pregnant. As nuns they couldn't raise children so the
babies would be drowned in the pool. Since there was evil there with the killings it is
now haunted. If you go up there at night you can see spirits and hear babies crying.
Texture:
Jaime's husband Coby has been up there at night with 4 of his friends. He said that it is
really scary and there was a dark feeling up there. When I heard the story I thought no
wonder the babies haunt the place, and with a story like that it would be very scary up
there.
BoRoundy
Logan, Utah
USU/ spring 2002
History 4700
Professor Thomas
Title: St. Anne's Retreat Haunting
Genre: Ghost Story
Christine Woolston
North Logan, UT
April 13, 2007
Informant: Christine is my sister in law. She has lived in North Logan most of her life.
She graduated from Sky View High School in 1996. She later graduated with a Bachelor
of Art from Utah State University in 2005.
Context: I was over at my in-law's house and a group of us were sitting around the
kitchen table talking about ghosts. This occurred in the early evening and progressed in
to the night. After one person told a story the next person would jump right in with what
they knew. The darker it got outside the more closely we all sat together and the lower
out voices became. This setting is when ghost stories are typically transmitted from one
person to another. This discussion was instigated by me but this setting is typically
instigated by one individual who either asks if someone knows a host story or by telling
one themselves.
I asked Christine if she knew the story of St. Anne's Retreat up Logan Canyon. I
knew that she had known some of the high school students which had been caught by the
security guard while she was in high school. I asked her if she knew why the students
went up there and why they said it was haunted. She answered me with this story.
Text: The nuns and the priests would get together so the church had to set up these
retreats so the nuns could go there when they got pregnant. They would go there for the
nine months, and then the nun would not want to be bothered by a baby and would drown
it in the well. The ghosts of the babies would then come back and haunt the nuns while
they were at St. Anne's recuperating so the church had to abandon it.
Texture: Christine told this story as if she did not believe it. The story came from when
she was in high school. The idea that the St. Anne's nunnery is haunted did not hold
much for her. She just told the basic story and did not add a lot of details to make it more
believable.
Amanda M. Woolston
Utah State University
Hist 2720
Lynne S. McNeill
Spring 2007
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Chelsie Cefalo
Logan, Utah
May 13,2011
"Murderous Nuns"
Legend
Informant: My name is Chelsie Iona Cefalo. I was born in Logan, Utah and lived in Utah for
most of my life. I am a 21 year old female. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints. I come from a family with seven kids and I am the oldest. I am
currently attending Utah State and majoring in English with an emphasis in teaching.
Context: I heard this legend on dark Friday the 13th while my roommates and I were sitting
around a campfire at Second Dam. We were several miles away from the site 'where the
legend occurred. A legend like this is typically told around campfires or on dark scary
nights and is intended to scare the listeners. The legend was told to me by roommate
Jennifer Hugie.
Text: Just up the canyon from here is an old nunnery. The stories say that back in the day when
the nunnery was actually open, they used to send pregnant teenagers there so they could
be punished for their sinful ways. Well not too long after they started sending the
teenagers there, the nuns started killing the girls and would drown their babies in the
swimming pool. The place is now haunted by the ghosts of the nuns, mothers, and babies.
If you go to the swimming pool or look in the cabins you will run into them.
Texture: Jenni told this with a sense of foreboding in her voice. I don't think she fully believed
it but I think she was definitely superstitious about it. Everyone was a little freaked out
by the story and I know that some of the other girls thought it was true.
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Daniel Force
Utah State University
2720 Survey of American Folklore
Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010
Consultant: Tori Wennergren
Age and DOB: 18. December 12, 1991
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Place Collected: Logan, Ut
Date: 10128/10
Title: The Nunnery
Geme: Ghost Story. (Legend)
Text:
Q- Can you give me some background information on The Nunnery?
A- What I do know is that it used to be like a place where nuns would go if they were
pregnant. And so, they'd be shipped off to this nunnery. And I guess at some point, all of
the babies were drowned by some psycho, crazy nun. And so, when you go there, you can
hear babies crying. And if you like lean over the water, then they'll grab you.
Age of consultant when he or she used or performed this example:
She first heard it when she was 14.
Where did the consultant live at the time:
Logan, Ut
Circumstances in which consultant used the folklore:
She heard the story both at school and at family gatherings, particularly at campfires.
Texture:
The interview took place in an apartment of freshman girls going to USU. The
atmosphere was very social, with a lot of things going on.
Daniel Force
Utah State University
2720 Survey of American Folklore
Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010
Consultant: Alexa Schofield
Age and DOB: 18, Feb. 25,1982
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Place Collected: Logan, Ut
Date: 10/25/2010
Title: The Nunnery
Genre: Ghost story. (Legend)
Text:
Q- Can you give me some background on the Nunnery?
A- My uncle told me that it was a place where nuns went when they got pregnant and
they had to drown their babies. But, it's like, mysteries of like the nuns dying, started
happening, because people would go there to kill the nuns.
Q-[Girl off to the side says:] Tell them about the swimming pool!
A- And there was this, this swimming pool is where the babies would, where they'd
drown the babies. And that's what I went to go check out two years later.
Q- Can you tell me about what happened when you went to the nunnery?
A- Urn ... [lights turn off] oh great. So, it was me, my Uncle, and his two friends. And my
Uncle is pretty old. And I was the lookout and we had to park like a mile away, because
the cops are like huge on the nunnery, because they know kids go there a lot. And we had
to jump this fence and it had barbwire on it, circled around it. And I was just the look out,
but I saw it and you could just like feel like different. As soon as you crossed that fence
you felt different. But I was just a look out, so I didn't hear anything, but like I just heard
them walking around. And then, I heard a scream, and it was my Uncle. And he said, and
he came running out and said "We gotta go now." So we left, and he wouldn't talk about
it until like a week later. And he said that he like, that his two friends were in the pool,
and the pool's empty, but they were down looking at it. He said like an uncontrollable
forced pushed him in. And he fell in and he hopped out the other end. [Girl in
background asks "He seriously felt that?"] Yeah, he was like shaking when he told me.
[Same girl "Ugh .. .I hate the devil!"] So yeah, they've never been back and my parents
won't let me go there anymore.
Age of consultant when he or she used or performed this example:
She first heard of the nunnery when she was 13 at a campfire.
Where did the consultant live at the time:
The consultant lived in Logan at the time.
Circumstances in which consultant used the folklore:
The folklore she knew about the nunnery was primarily told on family outings,
particularly camp fires. This was her Uncle's favorite story to tell.
Texture:
This interview took place in a female apartment, where a majority of the girls were
freshman. When she started telling the story, someone flipped off the lights. Everyone
was scared after it was told. After the story, they decided to go to the cemetery to try and
find the weeping woman.
Item #4
Supernatural Religious Legend
"The Nunnery"
Informant Data:
Myself
Logan, UT
Fall 1991
I was born in Nashville, Tennessee. Being a "military baby" I had the wonderful
experience of moving every couple of years. I am an active member of the L.D.S Church.
Contextual Data:
Shortly after moving to the valley some friends and I went up to the nunnery (i.e.
St. Anne's Retreat) around Halloween. This historic landmark is located about six miles
up Logan Canyon. Although it is only a few hundred feet from the highway, it is well
shielded from the road by the Logan River and a blanket of trees. Current owners have
constructed quite an elaborate gate, trimmed with barbed wire, to keep intruders out.
Text:
Several years ago, they used to use the nunnery as a retreat for nuns. Every
summer a new load of nuns would arrive from churches across the tri-state area (Utah,
Idaho, and Nevada). They would stay here for the summer, do their thing, and then all
would leave at the end of the summer. All but one that is. Her name was Helga, and she
was the head nun/caretaker of the facility. She was assisted by a Priest, and together they
tended to the duties inherent with caring for the facility. Helga was a witchy woman, who
seemed like she was mad at everyone. "Very outspoken and very mean" were the attributes
assigned her whenever anyone described her. The priest was quite a character himself. He
was "stoic, gloomy, and evil-looking." Most residents wondered what kind of a "relaxing
retreat" for the nuns it was with these two individuals presiding over operations.
No one really remembers exactly how it was discovered what went on the other
side of the Logan River, behind that veiling blanket of trees, but all remember the crimes
committed.
Evidently, the nuns who were sent to this particular nunnery all had one thing in
common--they were all pregnant. Of course, everyone knows that it is against the rules of
nunnship for a nun to be pregnant and that is exactly why they were here. Helga, assisted
by the priest, would perform abortions on these nuns. No anesthetic and primitive tools
were used to perform the procedure. This was done supposedly to teach the nuns a lesson,
but many believe it was just done to satisfy Helga's evil drives. Some of the babies
extracted would come out alive, and they were quickly disposed of by either drowning
them in the pool or in the river (you can still see the stone stairs leading into the river). The
bodies were buried in the ground behind the shed by the pool by the priest. That was his
job, disposing of the bodies that is.
Once, one of the nuns tried to escape so she could keep her baby. She was
discovered by the priest in her attempt and severely punished. Because of that incident, the
priest and Helga got some dogs (white Dobermans) to keep the nuns in, and intruders out.
The operation was going fine, so to speak, until Helga became pregnant from the
priest. Great precaution was taken to ensure that the other nuns wouldn't discover the
status of Helga's situation. When the time was right, both Helga and the priest snuk away
under the cover of the night to the area where the abortion was to take place. Only having
watched it done before, the priest tried the best he could in this first attempt at surgery.
Helga suffered immensely for the priests lack of experience. Many mistakes were made,
and the final result was fatal. The priest was devastated and went mad.
The nunnery has since been closed down. Attempts have been made by residents
of the valley to have the place destroyed, but it never seems to happen. The priest still lives
up there and every full-moon returns to the place where Helga died to rendezvous with her
ghost. On a full moon, one can hear the babies crying though the darkness.
Texture:
This legend is told primarily by junior high or high school students. Mostly it's
told just as a scary story, although I depict some hints of prejudice toward Catholics (i.e.
pregnant nuns).
George Gordon
Utah State University
Engl. 526
Dr . Jan Roush
Fall 1996
Title: Logan Nunnery
Genre: Ghost Stories
Informant:
Kristi Swainston
Female
DaB: September 21, 1991
Student at USU
Context:
Name of Informant: Kristi Swainston
Place item was collected: Logan, UT
Date item was collected: October 24,2010
This is normally told when talking about creepy experiences, this kind of story will come
about and be told to a group of friends telling stories to scare each other or tell of an experience
they had themselves with attempting to go up to this nunnery.
Text:
What I've heard about the nunnery is that whenever women that weren't married and they had,
or got pregnant, they would go up there to have - to the nunnery and they would have their
babies and they would drown their babies in the swimming pool from being ashamed. And then
now if you go up there you can hear them crying still.
Texture:
Told as if telling a personal account of something, does not usually involve hand
movements. Unless a person is getting into the story, the hand movements are kept to a
minimum. The tone used is usually a softer tone, like telling a scary story to a group of people
nearby.
Kathryn Young
Utah State University
ENGL2720
Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010, Sophomore
Daniel Force
Utah State University
2720 Survey of American Folklore
Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010
Consultant: Stephanie Bolan
Age and DOB: 20. July 10,1990
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Place Collected: Logan, Ut
Date: 10/28/10
Title: The Nunnery
Genre: Ghost Story. (Legend)
Text:
Q- Can you give me some background on The Nunnery?
A- Well...All that I have heard, I'm not sure how much of it is true, but I heard that it is a
nunnery up Logan canyon where nun's used to live. And urn, I've heard that it is where
they took all the nuns that had gotten pregnant and that is where they murdered their
children. Yeah, that's what I've heard. I talked to my Mom today and she said that she
heard that too, but she thinks that it is just a rumor.
Q- Have you heard any stories about people going to The Nunnery?
A- Urn, my parents went when they were in college. And, my Mom said that you had to
like hop over like a barbwire fence, because it's like on private property. But, she said
that it was kind of creepy, but she thinks that she creeped herself out more ... She thinks
that the whole killing babies thing isn't real.
Age of consultant when he or she used or performed this example:
16.
Where did the consultant live at the time:
Smithfield, Ut
Circumstances in which consultant used the folklore:
When she first heard it she was in high school. It was around Halloween and they were
looking for something scary to do, so they decided on the Nunnery. They never actually
went there.
Texture:
The interview took place in a girl 's apartment. Most of them are students at USu.
Title: Logan Nunnery
Genre: Ghost Stories
Informant: Alyssa John
Female
DaB: January 21, 1992
Student at USU
Context:
Name of Informant: Alyssa John
Place item was collected: Logan, UT
Date item was collected: October 27,2010
This is normally told when talking about creepy experiences, this kind of story will come
about and be told to a group of friends telling stories to scare each other or tell of an experience
they had themselves with attempting to go up to this nunnery.
Text:
So there was this priest, and he, uh, got this nun pregnant without her consent and she started
freaking out and was going to tell on him so he drown her and the baby so he wouldn't tell on
him and he wouldn't get in trouble. So if you go up there at night, you can hear a baby crying
and so if you go over to the swimming pool where the priest drown her and the baby you can see
a black shadow too.
Texture:
Told as if telling a personal account of something, does not usually involve hand
movements. Unless a person is getting into the story, the hand movements are kept to a
minimum. The tone used is usually a softer tone, like telling a scary story to a group of people
nearby.
Kathryn Young
Utah State University
ENGL2720
Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010, Sophomore
Kyra Madsen
Utah State University
ENGL 2720
Dr. Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010
Name of Consultant: Ryan Howell
Age and date of birth: 20, April 22, 1990
Ethnicity: White, American
Place folklore item was collected: Logan, Utah
Date item was collected: October 21,2010
Title: The Nunnery
Genre: Ghost Story
Text:
The nunnery. There's an old nunnery up Logan Canyon, which, is according to legend is,
was a retreat for nuns who got pregnant, and supposedly down from the nunnery a hundred, or
two hundred yards is a little pond where members of the head honcho of the nunnery would take
the newborn child and kill them and make them drown in the pond. That way the church
wouldn't dilute their status of having babies and such, and it's, there's, the actual building up
there it's actually, it's kind of creepy but they're not actually supposed to go up and see it
anyway.
[Did you see any ghosts up there?]
Uh, I didn't see any ghosts or anything. It's just, (pause) a combination of you know, at
least the whole, you know you hear a lot of bad things about it and also you got all these no
trespassing signs. So, you're kind of paranoid of getting caught and then, and old buildings, it's
creepy and have heard a lot of bad things about it.
How old was the consultant when he/she heard this story?
Ryan was 20 when he heard this story and visited the nunnery.
Where did the consultant live at the time?
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Texture:
He told the story in a reciting manner like he'd told it a few times before. I think this might be
because he had actually been there and had seen where everything was located and could better
picture what is alleged to have happened there.
"The Nunnery"
Legend
Informant:
Josh look
Logan, Utah
October 2010
Josh look has been a Ufelong friend for me, and I have always considered him to be like an older
brother. Josh is 23 years old and is married to Sheena look. Josh grew up in Paradise, Utah but moved
to Logan, Utah when he got married. Josh has been involved in a volunteer group such as the Paradise
fire department and EMT services. Josh worked for a while at the plasma center, but is now going to
school at Weber. Josh enjoys photography, firefighting, four-wheeling, anything outdoors, and spending
time with his wife.
Context:
Josh has always been known for telling stories, and telling them well. Because of this I thought he would
be a great source for a legend. I text him and asked him if he knew any legends and he told me that he
could probably think of a bunch. He invited me over for dinner where he could tell me the stories in
person, and so we could catch up. I went over to his house where we at a delicious meal and stories just
started to flow. I reminded Josh that I needed him to share a legend with me. He got a quirky grin on
his face and said he had one that I have probably already heard, but that his version was the best. Then
he started to tell me the legend of the nunnery up Logan Canyon.
Text:
Joshes version of the nunnery legend starts out by saying that a while back a rich man built five cabins,
which he later sold to a church. The church bought the cabins and turned them into a nunnery. One of
the nuns strayed and became pregnant, and when the other nuns found out, she was told they were
going to kill her baby. Once she had her baby boy, they drowned him in the pool. It is said that in the
pool there is a small section in the pool that is ice cold, and has a faint glow in the spot where the baby
was drowned. Josh also told me about a present incident that took place at the nunnery. He said that
there were a group of college students who went up to the nunnery to see if the stories were true.
There were three self alleged guards who tied them up, held guns to their heads, and told them if they
tried to leave they would shoot their legs. Some of these students were molested and physically
abused. The guards called the police saying that the kids had trespassed since the property is off limits.
The police came and arrested the kids and gave them a ticket for trespassing. These kids told their
parents what happened, and the parents told the police so the charges were dropped and the guards we
arrested.
Texture:
When Josh first started telling the story he sounded very sarcastic and said the words really slow, just
because this is his personality. Then he became more serious and told the story very soft spoken. He
did a lot of hand motions while he told the story, drawing in your attention. He paused a few times as
he tried to remember the events to the best of his ability. When he told the legend of the nunnery he
sounded as though he wasn't sure if he believed it. As he told the more recent events he told it as
though it were a matter of fact. Hearing his version of the story was very interesting and captivating.
Natalie Carter
Utah State University
English 2210
Steve Siporin
Fall Semester 2010
KyraMadsen
Utah State University
ENGL2720
Dr. Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010
Name of Consultant: Joan Hansen
Age and date of birth: 70, October 16, 1940
Ethnicity: White, American
Place folklore item was collected: Trenton, Utah
Date item was collected: October 24,2010
Title: The Nunnery
Genre: Ghost Story
Text:
They had guards and these kids broke in and did damage and these guards was
really rough on them and put them in the pool, empty pool and held them at gun shot
(laughs) 'till the cops come, and now they've arrested the guards and let the kids go.
[Can you remember any of the stories you heard}
There are a lot of stories, there, just, we used to have family reunions there. Yeah,
and it had some little tinny buildings, I mean they're like playhouses and they had beds in
them and you had to walk around like, (demonstrating bent over position) even kids it's
after I was married though, because I remember I took my kids with me. I remember the
swimming pool and things like that and the big building, but I didn't really know that
much about it before then but this is probably somethin' if we'd had known stories and
stuff, my, my kids, my friends and I would have done it and gone up and seen that and if
we'd had got caught we knew we'd be in deep trouble, ya know? (laughs).
[What do you know about the nunnery itself?}
In the fifties, is when it was, in the fifties is when it become the nunnery, other
than that, and before these other guys owned it. Uh, anyhow, these guys who had lots of
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money owned it for awhile. And they had people from all over the world stay. Then they
had the, let the women take it, the nuns, of the Catholic Church take it. I was going
through some stuff my mother had, and she was a nurse. I was going though what she had
written and there was something about this one nun, who'd got pregnant. She'd had the
baby and when the head nun, when she'd found out she drownded the baby. I know if
you look up on the internet you'd find a lot more stories and detail. But if you look up
Saint Anne's Retreat and I bet you'd find different things associated with it.
How old was the consultant when he/she heard this story?
Joan visited he nunnery around 1965 for her family reunions.
Where did the consultant live at the time?
River Heights, Utah
Texture:
She told this story in a happy reminiscing way with a lot of smiling and laughing.
KyraMadsen
Utah State University
ENGL2720
Dr. Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010
N arne of Consultant: Clare Vaterlaus
Age and date of birth: 21, December 16,1989
Ethnicity: White, American
Place folklore item was collected: Logan, Utah
Date item was collected: October 24,2010
Title: The Nunnery
Genre: Ghost Story
Text:
Okay, so the nunnery is haunted (pause) because the priests had raped the nuns
and the nuns, urn, when they gave birth the priests decided to drown both the nuns and
the uh, babies and then that's why it's haunted and later, urn, some teenagers went down
there to, (dramatic pause) see ifit was haunted and that's when, I think it was police, had
tied them up at the bottom of the pool and physically, and maybe, sexually, I don't,
abused them and that's why it's been scary since.
How old was the consultant when he/she heard this story?
Clare was 19 years old when she first heard about the nunnery and about the teenagers.
Where did the consultant live at th·e time?
Logan, Utah
Texture:
She told this story in a scary voice emphasizing it with dramatic pauses, like she was
really getting into the story.
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Title: Logan Nunnery
Genre: Ghost Stories
Informant:
Emily Bernhisel
Female
DaB: May 30, 1990
Student at USU
Context:
Name of Informant: Emily Bernhisel
Place item was collected: Logan, UT
Date item was collected: October 24,2010
This is normally told when talking about creepy experiences, this kind of story will come
about and be told to a group of friends telling stories to scare each other or tell of an experience
they had themselves with attempting to go up to this nunnery.
Text:
So ... 1 don't know where they came from but these nuns got pregnant so they're like ... not holy
anymore or whatever, so they took them out into like, some nunnery up in the Logan canyon and
they all drown their babies in the canyon in the swimming pool. Or somewhere over there. And
so like if you go out there at night, you can hear the babies crying.
Texture:
Told as if telling a personal account of something, does not usually involve hand
movements. Unless a person is getting into the story, the hand movements are kept to a
minimum. The tone used is usually a softer tone, like telling a scary story to a group of people
nearby.
Kathryn Young
Utah State University
ENGL2720
Lisa Gabbert
Fall 2010, Sophomore
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Fortunately, we have a justice system
To the editor:
Picture if you will, yourself driving down the highway. You are in a hurry. You’re late!
You glance in the rearview mirror and see a flashing red light right behind you, and an officer motioning for you to pull over. You glance at your speedometer and realize you are going 65 mph in an area clearly posted at be 55 mph. You think to yourself … oh my, I am going to get a ticket.
You pull over and wait for the officer to come to your car, making sure during that time you have your license, registration and insurance ID. Much to your astonishment, the officer opens your door with anger and forcefully yanks you out of your seat. He quickly turns you around and pushes you, face first, up against the car. Then he proceeds to angrily handcuff you making sure that the cuffs are good and tight (for they are flex cuffs). He wants to make sure you are truly subdued, so he puts a rope around your neck and attaches it to his steering wheel. He tells you that if you put any pressure on the rope that it will explode and blow your head off.
Fortunately this is a hypothetical situation.
This poor officer has really had a bad day, and his anger has reached the boiling point. He has already had to give 15 citations for speeding in areas that have been clearly marked. Tired of all he has had to put up with, he kicks you in the ribs, and slaps your face. He then proceeds to utter a stream of obscenities. And you say to yourself, is this what happens when you are only speeding.
What does this have to do with the incident at St. Anne’s retreat? Quite a bit. Trespassing and speeding are offenses that are both considered Class C misdemeanors. Neither should be punished by use of deadly force, abuse, or torture. Nor should the offenses be tried and convicted at the scene of the crime. Fortunately we have a justice system to handle that. We also have a justice system in Cache County that is perpetuated by people with a great deal of integrity and morals. We should be extremely grateful for that. Many people seem to think that these young people that trespassed at St. Anne’s should be punished for all the crimes committed at St. Anne’s over the past 40 years. That would be about the same as the judge punishing you for every speeding citation ever issued on that street. They should not be punished for vandalism. Only those guilty of such a crime should.
It may interest you to know that this particular group of 30 young people offered to do a service project for the owner on his property as their way of saying they were sincerely sorry. This offer was made after the charges were dropped. It was something the did not have to do but wanted to. The owner gratefully accepted.
Daily I see in the paper an advertisement entitled. “THERE’S NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSE.” In Cache Valley we have the “Dare” program which reinforces this to our children. We live in a society intelligent enough and well educated enough to realize that making a mistake does not give another person the right to be abusive, whether they are a parent, police officer, teacher or a citizen.
Aileen Lee
Smithfield
Righting the wrongs from a rite of passage
To the editor:
The recent furor over the trespassing at the former St. Anne’s Retreat has given all of us a chance to reflect on past behavior. I read comments from some former Cache Valley teen-agers who implied that this kind of thing was almost a local rite of passage. If this so, I think this is a wonderful opportunity for those who have participated to do some repenting. I think most of us recognize that vandalizing property, and even disturbing the rest of the good sisters, are simply wrong.
If we turn the situation around, and think of our own aunts or mothers going for a much needed vacation on our own property, and being frightened by people prowling outside, we could be quite angry. As grown-ups, I doubt that any of us would contemplate taking part in such an activity. Most of us realize that entering other people’s property without an invitation is wrong, regardless of the time of day, or season of the year. We expect to be in control of who enters our property. We keep sales people on the porch. We tell other people’s kids when it’s time to go home, and we expect them to leave (and they do leave.)
As adults, I expect that some who took part in those activities are feeling some twinges of guilt. May I suggest that those twinges can be alleviated if correct action is taken. Please consider making reparation for the wrongs.
What is a good night’s sleep worth to you? If you’re on a slim budget, you still have to pay about $50 for a motel room for a night. Consider sending a donation in the amount to the local Catholic Diocese. Remember that there were probably a few sisters whose rest was disturbed, and you may wish … more to make full reparation ….
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Rite of passage does not justify a local tradition where the actions of trespassing and breaking the law are justified by adults who they themselves may have participated in this activity when they were younger.
Fortunately, we have a justice system
To the editor:
Picture if you will, yourself driving down the highway. You are in a hurry. You’re late!
You glance in the rearview mirror and see a flashing red light right behind you, and an officer motioning for you to pull over. You glance at your speedometer and realize you are going 65 mph in an area clearly posted at be 55 mph. You think to yourself … oh my, I am going to get a ticket.
You pull over and wait for the officer to come to your car, making sure during that time you have your license, registration and insurance ID. Much to your astonishment, the officer opens your door with anger and forcefully yanks you out of your seat. He quickly turns you around and pushes you, face first, up against the car. Then he proceeds to angrily handcuff you making sure that the cuffs are good and tight (for they are flex cuffs). He wants to make sure you are truly subdued, so he puts a rope around your neck and attaches it to his steering wheel. He tells you that if you put any pressure on the rope that it will explode and blow your head off.
Fortunately this is a hypothetical situation.
This poor officer has really had a bad day, and his anger has reached the boiling point. He has already had to give 15 citations for speeding in areas that have been clearly marked. Tired of all he has had to put up with, he kicks you in the ribs, and slaps your face. He then proceeds to utter a stream of obscenities. And you say to yourself, is this what happens when you are only speeding.
What does this have to do with the incident at St. Anne’s retreat? Quite a bit. Trespassing and speeding are offenses that are both considered Class C misdemeanors. Neither should be punished by use of deadly force, abuse, or torture. Nor should the offenses be tried and convicted at the scene of the crime. Fortunately we have a justice system to handle that. We also have a justice system in Cache County that is perpetuated by people with a great deal of integrity and morals. We should be extremely grateful for that. Many people seem to think that these young people that trespassed at St. Anne’s should be punished for all the crimes committed at St. Anne’s over the past 40 years. That would be about the same as the judge punishing you for every speeding citation ever issued on that street. They should not be punished for vandalism. Only those guilty of such a crime should.
It may interest you to know that this particular group of 30 young people offered to do a service project for the owner on his property as their way of saying they were sincerely sorry. This offer was made after the charges were dropped. It was something the did not have to do but wanted to. The owner gratefully accepted.
Daily I see in the paper an advertisement entitled. “THERE’S NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSE.” In Cache Valley we have the “Dare” program which reinforces this to our children. We live in a society intelligent enough and well educated enough to realize that making a mistake does not give another person the right to be abusive, whether they are a parent, police officer, teacher or a citizen.
Aileen Lee
Smithfield
Righting the wrongs from a rite of passage
To the editor:
The recent furor over the trespassing at the former St. Anne’s Retreat has given all of us a chance to reflect on past behavior. I read comments from some former Cache Valley teen-agers who implied that this kind of thing was almost a local rite of passage. If this so, I think this is a wonderful opportunity for those who have participated to do some repenting. I think most of us recognize that vandalizing property, and even disturbing the rest of the good sisters, are simply wrong.
If we turn the situation around, and think of our own aunts or mothers going for a much needed vacation on our own property, and being frightened by people prowling outside, we could be quite angry. As grown-ups, I doubt that any of us would contemplate taking part in such an activity. Most of us realize that entering other people’s property without an invitation is wrong, regardless of the time of day, or season of the year. We expect to be in control of who enters our property. We keep sales people on the porch. We tell other people’s kids when it’s time to go home, and we expect them to leave (and they do leave.)
As adults, I expect that some who took part in those activities are feeling some twinges of guilt. May I suggest that those twinges can be alleviated if correct action is taken. Please consider making reparation for the wrongs.
What is a good night’s sleep worth to you? If you’re on a slim budget, you still have to pay about $50 for a motel room for a night. Consider sending a donation in the amount to the local Catholic Diocese. Remember that there were probably a few sisters whose rest was disturbed, and you may wish … more to make full reparation ….
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Emotions high on 911 tape
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
The 911 call John Jeppson made from Zanavoo Restaurant & Lodge around 10:30 p.m. Friday when he reported that a group of kids had trespassed at St. Anne’s Retreat revealed a man on a mission to end vandalism at the site.
Jeppson is the lead watchman who handcuffed and wrapped cord around the necks of two groups of teen-agers and young adults early Friday morning and Friday night. The trespassers claimed Jeppson and two other men yelled death threats at them and fired shotgun shells above one person’s head and near the feet of another. The two other men with Jeppson have been identified as Arthur Peasnall and Chris Doerr, Jeppson’s son-in-law, both of Tooele County.
On the 911 recording, Jeppson calmly tells a Cache County dispatcher about the trespassers bound in the retreat’s swimming pool.
The dispatcher sounds shocked as she gears what Jeppson tells her. Jeppson loses his cool with the dispatcher and raises his voice near the end of the three and a quarter minute all when she incredulously repeats what he says.
When Jeppson is put on hold, he talks bitterly with one or more men at Zanavoo Lodge about his frustration with students vandalizing the property he’s tending.
He also brings up an incident involving Nick Chournos’ son where he implies that trespassers caused his death. Chournos is a sheep rancher from Tremonton.
Tremonton Police Chief Steve Hodges said Chournos’ 52-year-old son, John, committed suicide in 1992, that he would kill himself,” but it was unrelated to trespassers.
“This was a family problem,” Hodges said. “He was having a lot of emotional problems at the time.”
Hodges noted that John’s wife, who never took the suicide well, has claimed that Tremonton Police shot her husband. “She’s never been able to believe that he would kill himself.”
Jeppson also said on the tape that the St. Anne’s Retreat trespassers he detained Friday night had something to do with the earlier group of eight people he detained when they threw eggs on the property. Although, it was later determined these were two separate groups.
Cache County Sheriff Lynn Nelson said Jeppson was interviewed by his office on Monday. Jeppson thought he had a right to do a lot of what he did Friday night, Nelson said.
“He has a lot of really different views on things,” Nelson said.
But the law does allow for some of the things he did, the sheriff explained. People protecting property are given a considerable amount of latitude, he said.
Nelson said Wednesday night he and Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt spoke with more than a dozen parents of victims in the Friday incidents.
The meeting was closed to the news media. Wyatt said afterward that he wanted to answer their questions about the case, but there were too many parents with questions to talk to individually.
Charges against Jeppson and the two other men could be filed as early as today, he said.
When asked for his reaction to the 911 recording, Nelson said “I think it’s pretty consistent with what we’ve anticipated.
“I think he thought all along he was defending his property,” he said. “He was scared of these kids. He viewed them as a danger to himself.”
Transcript:
Jeppson—Well, we’ve got at least a bus load of them.
(delay)
Jeppson—(inaudible)…to stop ripping people’s property apart—steal shit, you know?
(Dispatcher returns to the line)
Dispatcher—John
Jeppson—Yes?
Dispatcher—We’re getting a hold of a deputy. Who have you got up there with the juveniles?
Jeppson—I have two of my men.
Dispatcher—Two men. And you said you got fifty—five zero—right?
Jeppson—Five zero.
(Dispatcher breaths a slight, bewildered and incredulous laugh.)
Jeppson—Very, very close to that number. I don’t know. I didn’t take a head count. They are all handcuffed, and they’ve all got cords around their neck.
Dispatcher—Around their necks?
Jeppson—Yes, they’re on their knees in the swimming pool.
Dispatcher—You got them on their knees in a swimming pool?
Jeppson—(sounding defensive and raising his voice) Hey!
Dispatcher—I’m just…
Jeppson--This is on private property!
Dispatcher—John.
Jeppson—Do you understand that?
Dispatcher—I understand that, but I’m trying to get this information, OK?
Jeppson—Yes.
(A phone line rings at the dispatch center.)
Dispatcher—Now hold on one moment please.
(Dispatcher puts Jeppson back on hold.)
Jeppson—Damn dispatcher, where are you?
(While on hold, Jeppson talks to another or the same unidentified man.)
Jeppson—By the time the goddamn high school gets done with that place it’ll be nothing but powder.
Unidentified man—(speaking in the background)—Let their f--- parents believe they don’t do anything wrong. (He or another man continues to talk, but his remarks are inaudible.)
Jeppson—And like sophomores shoot them dead if you want. Nick Chournos does. Nick Chournos pussy-footed around with some people like this and got his son killed. And now he don’t pussy-foot. He hunts them in his…
(Dispatcher comes back on-line and cuts him off.)
Dispatcher—Hey John.
Jeppson—Yes?
Dispatcher—I’ve got ofoficers on their way. Do you want them to meet you at Zanavoo or do you want them to…
Jeppson—At St. Anne’s Retreat.
Dispatcher—OK.
Jeppson—Three-tenths of a mile past Preston Valley Campground.
Dispatcher—They know where it’s at. They’re on their way, OK?
Jeppson—I’ll be waiting.
Dispatcher—Bye bye…
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Herald Journal article talks about the events surrounding trespassers at St. Anne's retreat including the transcript of a conversation between a 911 dispatcher and John Jeppson.
Emotions high on 911 tape
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
The 911 call John Jeppson made from Zanavoo Restaurant & Lodge around 10:30 p.m. Friday when he reported that a group of kids had trespassed at St. Anne’s Retreat revealed a man on a mission to end vandalism at the site.
Jeppson is the lead watchman who handcuffed and wrapped cord around the necks of two groups of teen-agers and young adults early Friday morning and Friday night. The trespassers claimed Jeppson and two other men yelled death threats at them and fired shotgun shells above one person’s head and near the feet of another. The two other men with Jeppson have been identified as Arthur Peasnall and Chris Doerr, Jeppson’s son-in-law, both of Tooele County.
On the 911 recording, Jeppson calmly tells a Cache County dispatcher about the trespassers bound in the retreat’s swimming pool.
The dispatcher sounds shocked as she gears what Jeppson tells her. Jeppson loses his cool with the dispatcher and raises his voice near the end of the three and a quarter minute all when she incredulously repeats what he says.
When Jeppson is put on hold, he talks bitterly with one or more men at Zanavoo Lodge about his frustration with students vandalizing the property he’s tending.
He also brings up an incident involving Nick Chournos’ son where he implies that trespassers caused his death. Chournos is a sheep rancher from Tremonton.
Tremonton Police Chief Steve Hodges said Chournos’ 52-year-old son, John, committed suicide in 1992, that he would kill himself,” but it was unrelated to trespassers.
“This was a family problem,” Hodges said. “He was having a lot of emotional problems at the time.”
Hodges noted that John’s wife, who never took the suicide well, has claimed that Tremonton Police shot her husband. “She’s never been able to believe that he would kill himself.”
Jeppson also said on the tape that the St. Anne’s Retreat trespassers he detained Friday night had something to do with the earlier group of eight people he detained when they threw eggs on the property. Although, it was later determined these were two separate groups.
Cache County Sheriff Lynn Nelson said Jeppson was interviewed by his office on Monday. Jeppson thought he had a right to do a lot of what he did Friday night, Nelson said.
“He has a lot of really different views on things,” Nelson said.
But the law does allow for some of the things he did, the sheriff explained. People protecting property are given a considerable amount of latitude, he said.
Nelson said Wednesday night he and Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt spoke with more than a dozen parents of victims in the Friday incidents.
The meeting was closed to the news media. Wyatt said afterward that he wanted to answer their questions about the case, but there were too many parents with questions to talk to individually.
Charges against Jeppson and the two other men could be filed as early as today, he said.
When asked for his reaction to the 911 recording, Nelson said “I think it’s pretty consistent with what we’ve anticipated.
“I think he thought all along he was defending his property,” he said. “He was scared of these kids. He viewed them as a danger to himself.”
Transcript:
Jeppson-Well, we’ve got at least a bus load of them.
(delay)
Jeppson-(inaudible)…to stop ripping people’s property apart-steal shit, you know?
(Dispatcher returns to the line)
Dispatcher-John
Jeppson-Yes?
Dispatcher-We’re getting a hold of a deputy. Who have you got up there with the juveniles?
Jeppson-I have two of my men.
Dispatcher-Two men. And you said you got fifty-five zero-right?
Jeppson-Five zero.
(Dispatcher breaths a slight, bewildered and incredulous laugh.)
Jeppson-Very, very close to that number. I don’t know. I didn’t take a head count. They are all handcuffed, and they’ve all got cords around their neck.
Dispatcher-Around their necks?
Jeppson-Yes, they’re on their knees in the swimming pool.
Dispatcher-You got them on their knees in a swimming pool?
Jeppson-(sounding defensive and raising his voice) Hey!
Dispatcher-I’m just…
Jeppson--This is on private property!
Dispatcher-John.
Jeppson-Do you understand that?
Dispatcher-I understand that, but I’m trying to get this information, OK?
Jeppson-Yes.
(A phone line rings at the dispatch center.)
Dispatcher-Now hold on one moment please.
(Dispatcher puts Jeppson back on hold.)
Jeppson-Damn dispatcher, where are you?
(While on hold, Jeppson talks to another or the same unidentified man.)
Jeppson-By the time the goddamn high school gets done with that place it’ll be nothing but powder.
Unidentified man-(speaking in the background)-Let their f--- parents believe they don’t do anything wrong. (He or another man continues to talk, but his remarks are inaudible.)
Jeppson-And like sophomores shoot them dead if you want. Nick Chournos does. Nick Chournos pussy-footed around with some people like this and got his son killed. And now he don’t pussy-foot. He hunts them in his…
(Dispatcher comes back on-line and cuts him off.)
Dispatcher-Hey John.
Jeppson-Yes?
Dispatcher-I’ve got ofoficers on their way. Do you want them to meet you at Zanavoo or do you want them to…
Jeppson-At St. Anne’s Retreat.
Dispatcher-OK.
Jeppson-Three-tenths of a mile past Preston Valley Campground.
Dispatcher-They know where it’s at. They’re on their way, OK?
Jeppson-I’ll be waiting.
Dispatcher-Bye bye…
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Five testify against St. Anne’s retreat trio - Packed courtroom hears charges of assault, sexual abuse
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
A packed courtroom of witnesses, family members, deputy sheriffs and reporters listened Wednesday afternoon to the testimony of five people who said they were victims of three men who went too far while protecting a Logan Canyon retreat.
The preliminary hearing in Logan’s 1st District Court had to be delayed into the afternoon because one of the defendants, Arthur Peasnall of Tooele County, failed to show. He was contacted and arrived later, saying he was confused about the hearing date. Testimony in the hearing was expected to continue through most of today.
The three men, Peasnall, John Jeppson of Pocatell9o, Idaho and Christ Doerr of Tooele County, are each charged with six counts of aggravated assault and one count of forcible sexual abuse for violently detaining 38 teen-age and young adult trespassers Oct. 10 at the St. Anne’s Retreat property they were tending.
The 17-year-old Smithfield girl who was allegedly sexually abused said in court that Jeppson felt her buttocks and under her shirt as part of a search for weapons.
“He never checked my jacket.” She said in tears. “He just went up my jacket and shirt.”
Jeppson felt her stomach and her breasts on top of her bra, she said.
The girl said she had come up to the property, a former Catholic retreat rumored to be haunted, with several friends for a Halloween scare, but when she squeezed through the gates she got more than she bargained for.
“We got to the end of the bridge, and this guy came around with a gun and said get down on the f’ing ground,” she said.
She said all three of the men were armed with shotguns with flashlights taped to them, and she said Jeppson fired his gun into a tree to show he was serious.
Like the other victims who came down on the evening of Oct. 10, the girl said her hands were bound by plastic flex cuffs and she was placed into an empty swimming pool until police arrived. All of the trespassers were bound with cords around their necks, which Jeppson allegedly said would detonate and blow their heads off if they moved.
“I felt extremely scared, like something you see in a movie. I didn’t believe it was happening,” she said.
Defense attorney for the three men tried separating their clients from the totality of allegations made by the prosecution’s witnesses. Defenders for Doerr and Peasnall pointed out neither of the two touched the girl. In later testimony, the three defense attorneys would try to separate out who exactly did what, since prosecutors have charged all three men with the same seven crimes.
A Logan boy of Asian descent was a member of the first group of eight people who went to the retreat in the early morning of Oct. 10. The other 30 didn’t arrive at the retreat until the evening of that day.
He testified in a Cache County Jail uniform, having been recently convicted on shoplifting charges.
He said when the three men caught his group on the property; Jeppson held a revolver up to his temple and told him, “I should kill you like I killed one of your family members in Vietnam.”
Jeppson then moved the gun away from his head and fired, he said.
Three more teen-agers who were in the latter group of 30 testified the men physically assaulted them during the episode.
A 17-year old Richmond girl said her head was pulled back by her hair while she was handcuffed in the pool, aggravating a spinal condition. She said she was talking to her friend at the time.
“Mr. Jeppson came up behind me and pulled my head back and said, ‘Shut up. Do you want that rope any tighter?”
A Trenton teen said he was punched in the face by Peasnall and a 17-year old North Logan boy said Doerr kicked him in the stomach when he had been forced at gunpoint to lie on the ground.
He said Jeppson hit him on the side of the head and knocked him unconscious with the butt of this [his] shogun.
One more alleged victim was scheduled to testify for the prosecution today along with a couple of deputy sheriffs. The defense is then scheduled to bring forward its case.
Neither Jeppson nor Doerr would talk with reporters when they left court, and Peasnall was booked into the Cache County Jail for failing to show up on time for the hearing.
[Photo (top) by Mitch Mascaro/Herald Journal. Caption: Assault suspects John Jeppson, right, and Christopher Doerr are flanked by a TV crew Wednesday as they leave 1st District Court following a preliminary hearing. The hearing continued into the afternoon due to the late arrival of fellow suspect Arthur Peasnall.]
[Photo (bottom) by Mitch Mascaro/Herald Journal. Caption: County Attorney Scott Wyatt speaks to the media Wednesday after the end of the first day of the preliminary hearing into the charges against three men in the St. Anne’s retreat case.]
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Preliminary hearing for watchment involved in St. Anne's trespassing ordeal.
Five testify against St. Anne’s retreat trio - Packed courtroom hears charges of assault, sexual abuse
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
A packed courtroom of witnesses, family members, deputy sheriffs and reporters listened Wednesday afternoon to the testimony of five people who said they were victims of three men who went too far while protecting a Logan Canyon retreat.
The preliminary hearing in Logan’s 1st District Court had to be delayed into the afternoon because one of the defendants, Arthur Peasnall of Tooele County, failed to show. He was contacted and arrived later, saying he was confused about the hearing date. Testimony in the hearing was expected to continue through most of today.
The three men, Peasnall, John Jeppson of Pocatell9o, Idaho and Christ Doerr of Tooele County, are each charged with six counts of aggravated assault and one count of forcible sexual abuse for violently detaining 38 teen-age and young adult trespassers Oct. 10 at the St. Anne’s Retreat property they were tending.
The 17-year-old Smithfield girl who was allegedly sexually abused said in court that Jeppson felt her buttocks and under her shirt as part of a search for weapons.
“He never checked my jacket.” She said in tears. “He just went up my jacket and shirt.”
Jeppson felt her stomach and her breasts on top of her bra, she said.
The girl said she had come up to the property, a former Catholic retreat rumored to be haunted, with several friends for a Halloween scare, but when she squeezed through the gates she got more than she bargained for.
“We got to the end of the bridge, and this guy came around with a gun and said get down on the f’ing ground,” she said.
She said all three of the men were armed with shotguns with flashlights taped to them, and she said Jeppson fired his gun into a tree to show he was serious.
Like the other victims who came down on the evening of Oct. 10, the girl said her hands were bound by plastic flex cuffs and she was placed into an empty swimming pool until police arrived. All of the trespassers were bound with cords around their necks, which Jeppson allegedly said would detonate and blow their heads off if they moved.
“I felt extremely scared, like something you see in a movie. I didn’t believe it was happening,” she said.
Defense attorney for the three men tried separating their clients from the totality of allegations made by the prosecution’s witnesses. Defenders for Doerr and Peasnall pointed out neither of the two touched the girl. In later testimony, the three defense attorneys would try to separate out who exactly did what, since prosecutors have charged all three men with the same seven crimes.
A Logan boy of Asian descent was a member of the first group of eight people who went to the retreat in the early morning of Oct. 10. The other 30 didn’t arrive at the retreat until the evening of that day.
He testified in a Cache County Jail uniform, having been recently convicted on shoplifting charges.
He said when the three men caught his group on the property; Jeppson held a revolver up to his temple and told him, “I should kill you like I killed one of your family members in Vietnam.”
Jeppson then moved the gun away from his head and fired, he said.
Three more teen-agers who were in the latter group of 30 testified the men physically assaulted them during the episode.
A 17-year old Richmond girl said her head was pulled back by her hair while she was handcuffed in the pool, aggravating a spinal condition. She said she was talking to her friend at the time.
“Mr. Jeppson came up behind me and pulled my head back and said, ‘Shut up. Do you want that rope any tighter?”
A Trenton teen said he was punched in the face by Peasnall and a 17-year old North Logan boy said Doerr kicked him in the stomach when he had been forced at gunpoint to lie on the ground.
He said Jeppson hit him on the side of the head and knocked him unconscious with the butt of this [his] shogun.
One more alleged victim was scheduled to testify for the prosecution today along with a couple of deputy sheriffs. The defense is then scheduled to bring forward its case.
Neither Jeppson nor Doerr would talk with reporters when they left court, and Peasnall was booked into the Cache County Jail for failing to show up on time for the hearing.
[Photo (top) by Mitch Mascaro/Herald Journal. Caption: Assault suspects John Jeppson, right, and Christopher Doerr are flanked by a TV crew Wednesday as they leave 1st District Court following a preliminary hearing. The hearing continued into the afternoon due to the late arrival of fellow suspect Arthur Peasnall.]
[Photo (bottom) by Mitch Mascaro/Herald Journal. Caption: County Attorney Scott Wyatt speaks to the media Wednesday after the end of the first day of the preliminary hearing into the charges against three men in the St. Anne’s retreat case.]
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Ghost Stories
Tyler Thurston
Utah State University
Fife Folklore Archives
Logan, Utah
Mythology: Folklore
Mr. Brad Gibbons
Mountain Crest High School
Fall 2013
• Table of Contents
Release Forms
Cover Essay
Autobiographical Sketch
List of Informants
Item No. Informant Title
1 Roholt Dream
2 Peacock Nunnery
3 Roholt Oujia Board
4 Linton Logan Canyon
5 Backus Nunnery
6 Backus Haunted House
7 Nielson Haunted Closet • 8 Nielson Face on the Wall
9 Gonion Weeping Widow
10 Gonion Haunted House
11 Janet Thurston Ghosts
12 Janet Thurston Ghosts
13 Janet Thurston Ghosts
14 Janet Thurston Ghosts
15 Jake Thurston Closet door
16 Brenda Nielsen School
17 Jake Thurston Attic
18 Janet Thurston Hitchhiker
19 Janet Thurston Hillside
20 Roholt Pasture
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Cover Essay
Ghost stories have been and always will be a hot topic just
about anywhere you go. It seems like no matter who it is you talk
to either they know a guy, or they say that they themselves have
witnessed or heard something that would have to do with the
paranormal. If you believe the stories you hear or if you think that
the story you are being told is just a story that's been blown way
out of proportion just to try and get a cheap scare out of somebody
it is still fun to see the kind of reactions that you do out of people
when the story is over, so its always nice to have some good stories
tucked away just in case.
I love to hear ghost stories and I always have. I do what I can
to think that what they are telling me is 100% true because I think
it would be way cool if I knew for a fact that ghosts do exist,
however I cant do that so I just try to believe that they do. It is
interesting to hear other peoples views on what they think is
causing weird things in their house to happen because they are
certain that there is no such things as ghosts and that there is a
logical reason for everything, when really they are probably
freaking out in their house every time the wind blows, and they
just want to act like they don't believe in the paranormal.
The thing that would probably intrigue me the most about
ghosts and crazy things like that happening is because for the most
part I think I really do believe. One thing in particular really makes
me believe that the dead have a way of talking to you in different
ways. For example, during the end of summer in 2010 me and my
family were up at the sand dunes on our second day of our four day
dune trip riding four wheelers. We had all woken up and
everybody was eating breakfast. I wanted to hurry and do some
riding so I just had a glass of milk and went off by myself but
stuck around camp while my family ate. I ended up crashing my
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wheeler really bad and came very close to dying from all of my
injuries that consisted of: five vertebra in my back being broken,
shattering my spleen, lacerating my kidneys, bruising a lung, and
getting a concussion. After my full week of being in the ICU in
Rexburg I was able to go home. It was the second or third night
that I had been back when I had a dream. I was at a party of some
kind in this HUGE room that kind of seemed like a super fancy
hotel lobby or something, just a giant room. In the middle of the
room there was a giant circular center piece with a metal railing
going around it and in the middle there was like a water fountain,
and some trees. When across the room I see my aunt Tami and my
uncle Curtis, both of these members of my family were killed in a
car accident in 2008. I run around the center piece and give them a
big hug and the dream ended shortly after that. I thought it was a
pretty crazy dream but didn't say anything about it to anybody
basically because it was kind of a sad dream and didn't really want
to upset anybody. Well about a week after having that dream I was
in the bathroom one morning brushing my teeth and my mom
came in and started doing her hair. My mom begins talking to me
and she tells me that a few nights ago she had a dream. In this
dream I was at a party of some kind and she remembered a center
piece in the room with a fountain in the middle of it. She saw me
running around some kind of center piece to go and give my aunt
and uncle a big hug. As she finishes telling me this story I am
dumbfounded that she just vividly described my dream to me.
Keep in mind that I almost died and was still recovering, the
doctors had told me that 15 minutes later to the hospital and I
probably would have bled to death. The way we looked at it was
pretty much my aunt and uncle telling us that if I wasn't going to
make it through this ordeal that they would have been there on the
other side to take care of me.
Another story that I have I experienced with my friends. We
were all over at our buddies house when our friend told us that he
had a oujia board. I had always wondered about these things but
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had heard stories and I was a bit worried to try it out but curiosity
got the best of my and I was down to be playing it and see if it
worked like people said it did. There were ten of us there but only
eight were willing to play it because of all the hype that goes on
with them, two people didn't want to take the risk, I couldn't really
blame them. We sat down lit the candle and started asking it
questions, it immediately started working for us but were just
asking it things like "how many spirits are here with us" and things
like that. When we really started to get freaked out is when we
asked it where it was located and it would answer with "TV" and
you were the guy by the TV or "Couch" and you were on the
couch. The scariest part however was when we asked a spirit
where it was and it responded with "you" at that point we all
stopped and briefly freaked out, then put it away. Of course though
we had to pick it up again and keep asking stuff, nothing really
freaky happened around us at all but the answers were freaking us
out pretty good. The house that we were playing it in has got quite
a few weird things going on and our friend that lives there has told
us some weird things that go on in there and he kind of thinks that
we might have let something in with the board, so needless to say
we haven't played it for quite some time.
My method for collecting all of the material was pretty
simple. All I did was I asked around to see if anybody had a story
about something that had happened to them that they thought was
weird and that they didn't really have a logical explanation to.
Some of the stories that I had gathered, the person couldn't sign for
it because they were to young, or they were to far away so I just
had them tell the story to somebody else that I was friends with,
and then I just had that person tell me the story so that I could
record it. Then for some of the other stories I had, I already had
gotten a few stories from people and had them sign for it, then they
would call me with another story that they remembered they had
and then I would just record it over the phone because I didn't
need another signature, just their voice. Then when it came to
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organizing everything, all I did was just put everything in the order
that it happened. There is no sense in making all of the interviews
jump around everywhere because it would be harder for me to
keep track of everything and I am sure it would be a pain to grade,
plus for the most part I think I just followed the packet we were
given to go off of because I figured that you can't go wrong with
following the instructions.
The way that I look at ghost stories hasn't really changed
even after interviewing everybody and hearing their stories. Plus
all I can really do is take everybody's word for it that they are
telling the truth, however the story Kaden Roholt told about his
dad being visited by his deceased grandpa shortly after he had died
I truly believe to be true because that is not the first time I have
heard that story before. I assume that story is one that might have
actually changed the way I look at ghostly things a little bit
because that one I can actually relate a little bit to my experience
with my aunt and uncle. Now I kind of think that maybe dreams
could be some type of a (not trying to sound crazy here) but like a
window or something? I don't know, but apparently there is
something special about a dream and the dead because I know of
two accounts that involve a deceased family visiting them in their
dream for pretty crazy reasons. Kadens grandpa was there to say
goodbye and I think one of the reasons my aunt and uncle could
have been able to talk to me was because I was already so close to
death. Plus I forgot to mention this up top but I got really sick with
something called C-dif, that was the worst experience that I have
ever had. I would go through all of the pain of the four wheeler
accident again before I went through the C-dif illness again,
because that was the part out of the whole experience where I
literally felt like I was going to die. I lost 25 pounds in a matter of
about a week and was so dehydrated that I had to go to the hospital
and get two fulll.v. bags pumped into me because I couldn't keep
fluids. Around this time was when I had my dream.
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At the beginning of getting all of the information from
friends and family and friends of friends, I was skeptical. To be
honest even when I have been thinking things through as I have
been writing this paper, I have been changing my perspective on
how I look at ghosts. I think that ghosts probably do exist, whether
you read through this and think that I am an idiot for thinking that I
really couldn't care less. I know what I have experienced, I have
heard my friends discuss things for the interviews and outside of
the interviews that I believe to be true and so therefore I think I
have good reason to believe .
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Autobiographical Sketch
My name is Tyler Thurston and I am seventeen years old. I am a senior at Mountain Crest
High School and will be graduating in 2014. I was Born in Logan Utah and have lived in
the same area in Nibley for my entire life. I have one little brother and no sisters. My dad
works at Nucor steel and my mom works at Gossner Food's in the human resources
department. I also work at Gossner Food's and am on my way to my third year working
there. I am a maintenance worker and am outside doing stuff for the most part but am
indoors every now and again. I plan on working at Gossners until I am old enough to
work at Nucor steel along with my dad and my uncle, my grandpa also used to work there
until he retired about six years ago so I figured I should probably keep the tradition
going! I live for music. Metal music is something that my life revolves around, old and
new. I'm talking 80's hair metal like Motley Crue, Poison, Pantera, and so much more.
however I mainly listen to the newer type of metal that is super heavy and gets you
moving like crazy. I am currently in a band where I do guitar and vocals, and I love
everything about it. I also love to snowmobile, snowboard, go rock climbing, go to the
dunes, drag racing and pretty much anything else that involves friends and a good time.
The reason I would like to learn more about scary stories and things that involve ghosts is
because I just love getting scared, and I love "dark" "scary" things like movies, music,
and many many more. I have always been fascinated with things like that and I have
also always been confused on what to believe when it comes to ghosts. There are a bunch
of shows that are on TV that say they are all real, but I have no way of knowing if
anything is really happening in those shows because with special effects and all of the
other stuff that we have nowadays you can never tell if anything is true, and when it
comes to big budget movies that are being made that say "based on a true story" or "true
events" you never know how many of the things in the movie really did happen, or if
Hollywood just took a cool concept they heard about and decided to add a bunch of far
fetched stuff in there so that it is kind of based on the true story. Some friends of ours
actually were living in a house that they had claimed to be "haunted" and they actually
had some pretty believable stories, plus we had stayed the night there a few times and we
experienced a few things that were kind of "different" if you know what I mean. Me an
my friends have had some experiences of our own also. Curiosity got the best of us one
night when me and a bunch of my friends were all hanging out and we decided that we
would go get our hands on a Ouija board. I have always wondered about these things,
wondered if they really worked or not, always thought that maybe the people playing
them were just making them move and that everything was super fake, however I am a
believer now. That thing scared us pretty good and we have not been able to get any of
our other friends to touch play it with us again so I am thinking I might look further into
those things and learn more about them while I do more of my research on ghost stories
and encounters .
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List of Informants
Roholt- Kaden Roholt is a Senior at Mountain Crest High school
and lives in Mount Sterling which is up in the Wellsville Area. He
has lived there for about 16 V2 years because he moved into that
house when he was little. He is 17 years old and plays in a band
with me called Tr3ason where he plays bass. He enjoys playing
music, snowboarding, and hanging out with friends. He thinks his
house just might be haunted from the weird things he sees and
hears from time to time. 1, 3, 20
Peacock- Justin Peacock is also a senior at Mountain Crest High,
and he lives in Nibley Utah and has for all of his life. He enjoys
riding four wheelers, and really just being outside doing something
fun with friends. He works at the McDonalds in Hyrum and is
currently thinking of quitting his job and finding a new place to
work. 2
Linton- Robert Linton is one of the owners of the Whysound
venue in Logan Utah and is also a musician himself. Robert writes
classical instrumental stuff on the acoustic guitar and actually
wrote and performed some of the music that was on the Oprah
Winfrey show back when it was popular. However just because he
is playing acoustic stuff he certainly likes himself some super
heavy metal bands! 4
Backus- Alec Backus lived in Arizona for a few years before
moving to Hyrum about four years ago and he plays in a band
called False Witness right now where he plays guitar and My band
has played quite a few shows with them and we attend just about
every metal show in Salt Lake with them anytime there is an
awesome show in town. 5, 6
Nielson- Mckae Nielson lives up in Mt Sterling and is 17 years
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old. Mckae plays guitar really really well and does plays in the
same band as Mr. Alec Backus, and he does vocals as well. Hi
family is Mormon and attends church often. He currently works for
the Iron Gate grill catering and likes doing that and really enjoys
the fact that he gets to eat the left over's that people don't eat at the
parties he caters for. 7, 8
Gonion- Tristan Gonion lives in Hyrum Utah and is yet another
musician. He plays in the band with Mckae Nielson and Alec
Backus where he plays bass. Tristan loves to ride four wheelers
and go fast, plain and simple he likes to go fast. 9, 10
Janet Thurston- Janet Thurston is my madre and lived in
Pocatello for her whole life until she married my dad, and that is
when they moved into an apartment that they lived in for a few
years and then we moved into the house we live in now. She likes
to snowmobile, make crafts, and just do artsy type things, she is
currently employed at Gossner foods. 11, 12, 13,14, 15,17, 18, 19
Brenda Nielsen- Brenda lives in Hyrum and is retired from
work and is my grandma. Her and my grandpa care for my two
little cousins who are both 5 and 9. She used to teach at an
elementary school before I was born but now spends most of her
time keeping the young ones busy .
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Tyler Thurston
August 11, 2013
Item 1
Deceased Dream
Context: Kaden informed me that his dad had a pretty crazy
experience once when he was 8 or 9 years old and he was kind
enough to share the story with me.
Text: Alrighty so my dad told me this and its one of my dads
personal experience ghost stories. When he was about 9 or 9 his
grandpa had passed away, and when he was asleep his grandpa
came to him and he said hey Shane, im dead and I wanted to talk to
you for a minute. He had a short conversation with him and they
said their goodbyes. As his grandpa was leaving his dream he woke
up to his dad waking him up and he said hey Shane I have bad
news. Shane said I already know. His dad said what do you mean?
Shane said grandpa visited me and said he was dead.
Texture: Kaden heard this from his dad and his dad said that it is
completely true and that he remembered everything with distinct
detail.
Both me and Kaden believe his dad was telling the truth and I
think this was one of the most interesting stories I gathered out of
the twenty other stories that I have to sort through.
Item 2
• The Nunnery (Get out)
Context: Justin has a brother in law that took a trip up to the
nunnery with his friends and this came up in conversation because
about 2 weeks ago me and my friends went to the nunnery so he
told me about Rex's experience.
Text: Alright my brother in law Rex was with a group of his
buddies up at the nunnery and it was him and ten other friends, one
of his buddies had a camera and they were in a little group walking
through the nunnery, and it was really quiet then they suddenly
heard a whispered "get out", so they all freaked out and ran out of
• there and on the video you hear get out then the rest is just the
sound of a swinging arm with a camera haha pretty creepy.
Texture: Justin heard the story from his brother in law Rex but I
am not entirely sure if I am sold on this story or not. We have been
up at the nunnery and there was nothing really going on the whole
hour and a half we were up there. Who knows, maybe it was
somebody up there with another group of friends and they thought
it would be funny to go and scare the other group of people that
was up there with them.
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Oujia board
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Context: Alrighty So me and two other friends had this Ouija
board and we were playing with it and the night went on with it
and we had been playing with it for about an hour and a half before
everyone left and my one friend who owned it was to afraid to take
it home with him so I just said I would keep it here at my house.
So
then later at night I'm in bed playing X box and I am just laying
down and while im playing I notice a serious pressure going on my
arm and when I look at my arm the pressure slowly relieved and it
felt like something was getting up and moving, so i was kinda
wigged out but I didn't think much about it. So I keep playing x
box then it was late enough to go to bed. I go to take my shirt off
and my tag was sticking out and then it felt like four fingers slid
down my neck and tucked my tag into my shirt so I flip around and
there was nothing there so I got a really eerie feeling. So I am
laying in bed and fall asleep but then wake up around 3:20
which is the witching hour between 3-4, and at the end of my bed I
• hear some really heavy breathing at the end of my bed so I look
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around and don't see anything and the breathing kept happening as
I forced myself to go back to sleep.
Texture: Kaden told me this story right before we started playing
with the Ouija boards ourselves because he wanted us going in
there already freaking out even before anything started to happen.
I can buy this story because I have heard crazy stuff from people,
and on the internet about the Ouija boards so why would it be
crazy to think that it could happen to him?
Item: 4
• Ghost Dog
Context: I asked Robert if he could help me out with my
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mythology project by telling me a story that he had maybe
experienced that was at all scary, and he happened to have this one.
Text:
Hey what's going on? My friends and I were chilling up logan
canyon one night we go up there often to hang out have food and
sit around a camp fire. It just so happens this one particular night it
was kind of strange we were all sitting around the campfire and a
sound came out of nowhere that I heard like a chain rattling. And at
first I though someone parked their car down on the road and was
walking their dog up the trail, maybe even a park ranger seeing
what was going on. So as I heard the noise I kind of just jumped up
expecting to see a dog under the table like I mentioned but
instantly after I heard chain rattles there was nothing there and it
was crazy that our natural reaction was to jump out of our seats to
look under the table, see what was there and it was right in our
vicinity of where we were and after we saw nothing we went and
searched the path because we were so focused on the sound we had
• heard and this was pretty legitimate and after looking around we
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didn't find anything so it was very very strange.
Texture: I don't know what Robert heard, maybe it was a ghost of
some sorts or who knows maybe it was even a chain tied to a tree
somewhere that was blowing in wind or something I don't know
but Robert isn't the type of guy to just lie to you so I believe he
heard something that startled all of them .
Item 5
Nunnery
Context: Alec and I had gone up to the nunnery with a group of
friends and then a few days later he went up with another group of
friends and he wanted to tell us how the two experiences differed
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Text: Alright so me and 3 or 4 other friends went up to the
nunnery in Logan canyon and first off its just a super sketchy
place but so there is a main room that is a lot freakier than the rest
by where the pool is if you know what I'm talking about. And its
weird to hear creaking sounds and the main room inside of it, its
boarded off except for a hole we had to go through you get in and
it smells awful, chains hanging from the roof there is weird sounds
all over, there is no way it wasn't paranormal. There was creaking
up and down steps and nobody else was walking around with us
we were all standing still. The nunnery / St. Anne's Retreat.
Texture: I had been to the nunnery before and didn't really
experience any of these things before except for the big room
being boarded off and the chains from the ceiling but I don't know
maybe he really did hear and see and smell that stuff, it is a creepy
place however.
Item 6
Arizona Ghost
Context: Alec told me this story a few years ago when we had just
gotten done watching a scary movie because he said that it
reminded him of the same type of "ghost be gone" they had to use
in Arizona.
• Text: ok so when I lived in Arizona I was a little kid so I don't
remember a whole lot about it, but I had this really weird freaky
house we were renting and the basement was always really
freezing cold, and we felt like there was another presence there so
my parents got a weird kind of exorcism and get rid of the ghostly
presence and it worked and was gone forever.
Texture: I don't know about this one, especially because he was a
little kid at the time so it could have just been a whole lot of little
kid imagination going on that had a lot to do with it but he believes
• what he said was true so I am not going to fight him on it ha.
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Item: 7
Haunted Closet
Context: We were making fun of Mckae and what not and the
things we were saying to be funny reminded him of a story that
wasn't really what you would say is funny it's a lot more freaky .
Text: This one is about my haunted basement closet so one day I
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was down there watching TV and I noticed the door was opening
and closing by himself and I thought my little brother was playing
around so I kept watching TV and it kept opening and closing. It
brings back emotions. So I'm sitting there and I get this bad feeling
like a chill and I was like I need to check this out and I turned off
my TV so it was really dark and I look in the closet and there was
no one in there so it was weird then the door slammed shut behind
me and I was like 0 no 0 no and then I hear a voice like Mckae
Mckae and I was freaking out it was crazy then something grabbed
my leg ... .it was outta this world.
Texture: This is either a really crazy story that should be on the
news or else this is just something he thought he would say ha
either way I think it is a fun story that could be passed around to
people that is just fun.
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Face
Context: he got done telling me the other story that he told me for
7 and he said that he had another one for me so we sat down and he
let me interview him once again.
• Text: So I was laying in my bed and it was bed time and I am
• asleep. I wake up and its like 4 in the morning and im like that's
weird I woke up so I roll over to sleep again and I close my eyes
and then I open them again and I see this face on my wall that I
swear was there so I was freaking out and I was like oh no that is
crappy and so I closed my eyes and went to bed and in the morning
it wasn't there and so I was just being haunted by a ghost
Texture: I have actually heard stories about people playing with
Ouija boards and having this type of thing happen to them. I don't
know if he has ever played with one of those before, but I would
recommend he quits doing that if he does if he is getting crazy
• things like that to happen in his house!
Item 9
Weeping Widow
Context: Me and my friends went legend tripping on Halloween
night to the cemetery to see the weeping widow and see if we
could get her to look at us when we shined the light on her, and
Tristan Gonion tells us what happened
• Text: Me and my wonderful friend Tyler, and Alec and Mckae and
• Tyger all decided to check out the weeping widow in the late
afternoon in the night, so we decided to hop the fence and
unfortunately Tyler ripped his pants and so did I we got stuck and
were freaking out as cars were driving by and once we got over our
ripped pants we went to the widow and did the light thingy and
looked at it and it worked and we were very surprised because we
were very spectacle, it was quite sketchy because we didn't think it
would work and it did, and being in the cemetery was creepy
• anyways.
Texture: I was with these guys when they did it and yes indeed it
did work, we all had big flash lights and once we turned them off
we saw the statue lift her head out of her hands and look at us .... .it
was scary.
Item 10
Haunted Building
Context: Tristen heard about this haunted area from his brother
that lives in Pennsylvania and he went there so he thought he
would share it with his dear friends.
Text: I heard about this building that was haunted I don't
• remember what it was but I went to check it out with one of my
•
•
•
good old pals so we decided to go in and we got to the door and it
was chained and we broke it, and the creepy door creaked and we
got into the room and it smelled like something had been skinned
in there like hunting people lived there, it was kinda weird, so we
wondered around the building and we found a dining room area
that was way nice and had a way nice chandelier at the edge of the
table it was really weird like someone was following us but no one
was there and it looked like people had been living there recently.
Texture: I wish I knew what this place was called so maybe I
could google it or something but he said everything he told us was
true and this building was really nasty.
Item: 11
Haunted House
Context: These friends of ours live just down the road from us and
this lady has got a BUNCH of stories about ghosts that she has
come in contact with over the years and I have been in her house
and I am definitely thinking that she is being haunted all of the
time
Text: we are at our friends house hanging out one night and she is
telling me about how she has these ghosts that have followed her
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•
•
from one house to the next, and were all sitting in the living room
all of us and she starts talking about it and all of the sudden I hear
somebody running up and down the hallway upstairs above us and
we were all downstairs so it was kind of creepy.
Texture: I believe this story one hundred percent because I was
there when it happened and there are quite a few more stories to
come that have to do with her and her ghosts .
Item 12
Old house
Context: The same friend that had the ghost running up and down
the halls also had an old house that she lived in back when she was
a little girl still living at her parents house.
Text: So this friend said she has been followed by ghosts like her
whole life anyway there was an old, old house that she lived in in
• providence across the street from the maverick where they built
- --- - - ---------
•
•
that new car wash and stuff, and she lived in there and said it was
really haunted and she said one day she came back from school
and
walked in and there was someone sitting on her couch and there
was an old lady sitting on her couch in a black veil in all black
sitting and staring forward and she ran in the kitchen and came
back and the lady was gone.
Texture: I believe all of the stories this girl tells because a fair
amount of these stories actually have proof anyways and that
makes it even more awesome .
Item 13
Old House Picture
Context: I have actually seen the newspaper clipping that has the
picture of the man standing in the window of this house and it is
one of he coolest pictures I have ever seen
Text: ok so my same friend that lived in that same creepy house
across from where the maverick was said that it was haunted by
• this old man and I guess when they tore that house down to build
•
I •
•
the carwash there the newspaper was there and took a picture of
the house and they all started freaking out because they were
bulldozing it and the newspaper guy said that there was somebody
there and anyways they printed this picture in the paper and you
could see the silhouette of the man in the upstairs window as they
were tearing it down.
Texture: like I said I have seen the picture of the newspaper with
the guy in the upstairs window and it is really creepy, but totally
awesome! That is a picture that will make a person that is curious
about ghosts a believer .
Item 14
Ghost Girl
Context: I knew this story even before my mom did because our
friend told me this herself, this happened in that old house she
lived in in providence back when she was a little girl.
Text: k so my again my friend that has been living in haunted
houses her whole life told me one morning her mom was yelling at
her to get up one morning and she was taking her time and her
mom was getting mad and she is facing the wall and her mirror is
i.
•
•
on the wall and she said she opened her eyes and this girl that
looked like she was on skates or something because she wasn't
walking went like walking by her door and shot her this big 01
dagger and just kept going on by.
Texture: I really like this story because I can actually like see it
playing through my head and it's a really cool story, personally I
think I would freak out and lose my mind and never sleep in that
house again .
Item 15
Mysterious Door
Context: I was actually in the room when this happened and saw it
with my own two eyes.
Text: So me, my dad and my brother we were all just hanging out
watching TV and out of nowhere our closet door in my parents
room opens up and it's weird because there wouldn't be a draft
or anything in there. So yeah, that's about it.
Texture: This was really freaky because we were all just sitting
•
•
•
there talking and the door just opened. It's really weird because
that closet door always swings shut after you open it so when it
opened all by itself it was creepy!
• Item 16
Helping Hands
Context: I never heard this story before but I found it pretty
interesting. I would like to find this story and read more about it.
Text: K several years ago in a small Wyoming town, this is true
but
I don't remember exactly where. There was I believe a man and a
woman that were in trouble with the law. lean 't remember why
exactly but they went into an elementary school first thing in the
morning and held the kids and the teachers hostage. And it wasn't
• a big school so but there were plenty of kids and they took them
into the gym and they had guns and urn I can't remember they
threatened to blow them up I think. And so anyway the police and
everybody found out and surrounded it but all the kids were scared
And did what the teacher told them but urn eventually I don't
remember if they one of them got shot or something I wish I could
remember better. But kids came and they were being helped out
of
the window by these different people and stuff and the kids said
• after that they had actually had seen people there that were just
•
•
•
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kinda floating they didn't have legs or feet. And they saved, I don't
think anybody got hurt any of the kids or teachers. But later on
they were trying to describe who it was that helped them because it
wasn't any of the towns people or anything. And so a lot of the
families got out their photograph albums and they were looking
through and the kids would say that is the person that helped me.
And it would be their great great grandma or great great grandpa
that they never met. And that is a true true story. But there was a
lot
of them that were helped by an ancestors that had passed on years
and years before.
Texture: I really like this story and can't imagine being helped by
family that have already passed on. But then I think it would be
really cool to see some of them again .
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• Item 17
Footsteps in the attic
Context: I heard this story before and it's from the same people
that lived in the haunted houses their whole lives.
Text: OK so my friend Cody his mom when he was younger he
well his mom when he was younger she heard footsteps in her
attic when she was hanging out with his dad they were just
hanging out watching movies and they heard footsteps in the
attic so they thought they'd go check them out. So anyway they
• go check them out and they go walking up into the attic and
nothing was there. Then they went down and went to get some
•
flashlights came back and when they were on their way back they
heard footsteps on the ladder. So when they got back the footsteps
were gone. The very next day well not the very next but a few
weeks later they heard the very same thing but only in the attic
they didn't want to go check it out. But that is what he told me so
that is pretty much it.
Texture: My little brother heard this story from his friend that
lives in this house and he is so, so sure that his friends house is
haunted.
Item: 18
Hitchhiker
Context: I have actually heard this type of story before in my
mythology class.
Text: so I heard this story about this guy that was driving down
this road and he saw a girl hitch hiking so he picks her up and she
was pretty cold so he gives her his lettermen's jacket and drops her
off at her house and then realizes that he forgot to get his jacket
back so the next day he goes back to this house and says I need to
• get my jacket back is Susan here? And they said I am sorry Susan
died twenty years ago. He said well no I saw her last night and I
•
gave her my jacket, the mom said well I can take you to her grave
they go to the cemetery and his lettermen jacket is on top of the
grave.
Texture: I don't think I really believe this story because I have
heard it be told in so many different ways so it sounds like
everybody kind of has their own spin on it. Or maybe it is true but
some of the translation has been shifted throughout all of the times
it has been told .
•
•
•
Item 19
Maiden on the Hill
Context:
Text: ok so many many years ago in high school there has been
this story about this maiden who was in love this man, well this
man went hunting up in the mountains and never came back, so
she
went looking for him and actually froze to death up there. And
every time the snow starts to melt in the spring you can see an
outline of her and its called maiden on the hill.
Text: I have seen this mountain before I the spring and its really
cool looking. You can actually see the girl and it looks like she is
walking across the mountain side. I had seen if before but hadn't
heard the story until now .
•
•
•
Item 20
The Pasture
Context: This is a friend of mine's property that some of my other
friends go up to in the summer time to have fires and hang out that
is up in Mt. Sterling and its pretty creepy and has some creepy
things going on around it all the time.
Text: Ok so my friends own this property where it is kind of
secluded from everything else in Wellsville. And whenever we go
down there to sleep out there or just hang out. We always hear
something running across the river a few hours after we get there
and there are always just twigs around us breaking and footsteps
and we always see something white darting in between trees. One
day while leaving me and one of my friends we saw something big
and white jumping from tree to tree and after we saw that we were
out of there.
Texture: This in my eyes is all true because I have been down
there before and I agree with the things running towards us in the
river and then nothing ever shows up. I still however haven't seen
any white things jumping tree to tree there before but hey anything
is possible I guess .
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No wonder our social structure is collapsing
To the editor:
After reading the article on the 30-plus teen-agers that had trespassed on private property in Logan Canyon, we felt compelled to present our view of a hitherto unspoken portion of this alleged violent occurrence.
The purpose of “law” is to protect the rights of the citizenry. The first principle of all law does not compel performance. Quite to the contrary, law prohibits performance. “Do not speed, Do not ill, Do not covet.” I fail to see the action of the watchmen as being as reprehensible, as we have been led to believe.
Where do the parents stand on the issue of their children breaking the law? Does this issue take a back seat because someone held these young adults accountable for their actions?
I have not read one iota of evidence where the watchmen werw outside this private property inviting anyone in. These teen-agers knew that they were trespassing, yet because they were caught and held for the police the watchmen are the ones in the public hot seat.
If my teen-ager had been among those involved, I would have been just as outraged as those parents, but at my teen-ager, not the watchmen. We, as parents, have a God-given responsibility to teach our children to respect other people’s rights, such as obeying the law and being good citizens.
Also to Mr. Chambers, Logan attorney, to teach your children that being frisked or emotionally distressed by our “now” teen-agers taking guns, knives and explosives to schools, churches, etc. The idea of making the perpetrator the victim and the watchmen the villains appears typical of jurisprudence today. Do we even need to wonder why our social structure is breaking down?
Susan Walker
Wellsville
Youths could have prevented incident
To the editor:
When we first picked up the paper and read where we could leave a message for you between 6 p.m. and 9 p.m., we found your “mailbox” was full, so we decided to leave this at your office.
Incidentally, we do not know any of the parties involved in this Logan Canyon incident, so we have no preconceived notions because of any friendships.
We would expect our community to hold people accountable for their actions. Although the caretaker definitely overreacted, if the story as reported was accurate, but one must realize this would have never occurred had the youths involved not been breaking the law in the first place. We feel the youths should be required to perform some form of public service to make up for their actions, which initially caused the problem.
A reprimand to the caretaker is all that should be required, as he probably handled it the way he thought best to control the crowd which had him overwhelmed.
Monte and Eunice Merrill
Logan
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No wonder our social structure is collapsing
To the editor:
After reading the article on the 30-plus teen-agers that had trespassed on private property in Logan Canyon, we felt compelled to present our view of a hitherto unspoken portion of this alleged violent occurrence.
The purpose of “law” is to protect the rights of the citizenry. The first principle of all law does not compel performance. Quite to the contrary, law prohibits performance. “Do not speed, Do not ill, Do not covet.” I fail to see the action of the watchmen as being as reprehensible, as we have been led to believe.
Where do the parents stand on the issue of their children breaking the law? Does this issue take a back seat because someone held these young adults accountable for their actions?
I have not read one iota of evidence where the watchmen werw outside this private property inviting anyone in. These teen-agers knew that they were trespassing, yet because they were caught and held for the police the watchmen are the ones in the public hot seat.
If my teen-ager had been among those involved, I would have been just as outraged as those parents, but at my teen-ager, not the watchmen. We, as parents, have a God-given responsibility to teach our children to respect other people’s rights, such as obeying the law and being good citizens.
Also to Mr. Chambers, Logan attorney, to teach your children that being frisked or emotionally distressed by our “now” teen-agers taking guns, knives and explosives to schools, churches, etc. The idea of making the perpetrator the victim and the watchmen the villains appears typical of jurisprudence today. Do we even need to wonder why our social structure is breaking down?
Susan Walker
Wellsville
Youths could have prevented incident
To the editor:
When we first picked up the paper and read where we could leave a message for you between 6 p.m. and 9 p.m., we found your “mailbox” was full, so we decided to leave this at your office.
Incidentally, we do not know any of the parties involved in this Logan Canyon incident, so we have no preconceived notions because of any friendships.
We would expect our community to hold people accountable for their actions. Although the caretaker definitely overreacted, if the story as reported was accurate, but one must realize this would have never occurred had the youths involved not been breaking the law in the first place. We feel the youths should be required to perform some form of public service to make up for their actions, which initially caused the problem.
A reprimand to the caretaker is all that should be required, as he probably handled it the way he thought best to control the crowd which had him overwhelmed.
Monte and Eunice Merrill
Logan
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Interview with Trevor Eschler about St. Anne's Retreat
By Anne Gray Perrin
Utah State University
Fife Folklore Archives
Logan, UT
English/History 6770 (Folk Narrative)
Professor Steve Siporin
Spring 2011
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TRANSCRIPTION COVER SHEET
Trevor Eschler
Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University
April, 2011
Anne Gray Perrin
Anne Gray Perrin
Recording Equipment: Alesis Pamtrack 24bit Wave mp3 digital recorder
Transcription Equipment: Express Scribe transcription software
Transcribed by: Anne Gray Perrin
Transcript Proofed by: Anne Gray Perrin
Brief Description of Contents Eschler recou ' s bis trips to St. Ann-'s rrtrcl!~; rc~s0ns ' .y he
goes and what he has experienced.
GP: .L rL.'le Gray Perrin
TE: Trevor Eschlcr
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in conversations arc not included in transcribed. All additions to transcript are noted with
brackets.
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[00:01] Trevor Eschler: Trevor Eschler
started going up to the Nunnery. So what provoked you to go up there?
and find it. But we weren't able to find it. So I moved up here in August. We were bored one night . .We
started looking on thr i tc~nct for thinGs t0 d~ in L0C:''1, - ~~ h~ rem m!:-('rcc!_ H:: V!'JS try!~z t flr.d the
Nunnery so we kind of found the directions on the Internet and decided to go up there. It was about
11:00 at night when we started out. At 11:00, we gathered up some people.
AGP: And so had you heard tit'"· stories at..out th N.1i·,;-:2fr ;
TE: What Y..'e decided to d~ is we were !ook!!'1[; for do, we dcdc0~ tc rc2.d i t0 th:- to~ic!: t khrl of fr?J1:
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AGP: So what had you heard?
TE: A couple of the stores that read was that the cabins up there were summer homes for the Owner of
tried to sell it to the University. The University didn't want it so he ended up selling it to the Catholic
Church, and the Catholic Church took over; and started running the Nunnery out of it. Up there, there's
of wedlock out of there and take them into the swimming pool and drown them. One account we read,
you walk in there and you kind of get this eerie feeling. We tried that out, and it's true.
TE: You 1NJ!k in and th{!re 's just this cold spot; and it kind of sends chills down your back. We read the
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up there, and there's three security guards. They got caught and got tied up in the swimming pool and
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AGP: You still 'Nan edt go even th •_•gh you heard of this attack?
TE: Yeah. We kind of, I don't know. We're thrill seekers so we tried. If someone says, "Don't do it," we do
it just to prove them wrong, that it can be done.
AGP: Yeah?
AGP: Have you encountered any mortal beings or any security issues?
there with us but the people we go up there with.
stuff?
mile away from the entrance, kind of walk up. You had to cross this bridge, and if you go walking up it, it
looking directly at the swimming pool, and you could see the silhouette of a person; just one person. I'm
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clouds. There was nothing. So that really freaked us out. We ventured down into the swimming pool.
Came out. '\nd there's r 3bins s•1rro•Jnning it, a rod . t thi time, like ! c~id, we h ~d re, d all the stories so
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called us up. He was like, "Dude, let's just take some girls up there and scare them." We were like,
"Alright." So we went up there, kind of scouted it out. Then he came up about a half hour later. We were
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occasions. It's pretty fun. It's scary, too because sometimes you're in some of the buildings alone by
yourself and you hear the old wood creek. It gives you a rush.
AGP: So had you experienc.ec.i el~e supernatural or is it jusi. the swim ruing pool. io~:u.J}
AGP: Yeah. And so how many of your friends go up there like group-wise?
TE: Let's see. We got, there's probably about eight regulars, and then our groups usually range from
eight to twenty. Anywhere in there.
AGP: So it just depends on like what's going on?
TE: Yeah. It depends on the night; if it's a week day or weekend; wha~' s the next ctay; if thc·rc's te:;.ts
people have to take or whatnot. We try to get as many people as we can to go up there because the
more people, the funner [sic].
AGP: So even thoilgh there's al! these storlt:s, with th .... ati.a .... ~ and th.:: supciTIJh.irc.l, an ' cvu-. though
you've experienced those things, you still keep going?
( TE: Yean.
AGP: So why do you think that is? Why do you go?
i c: It's sornethlng 1u''; ~u cL.
AGP: It's just fun?
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get up there to just have fun. It's kind of fun to take new people up there just to see their reactions.
TE: Because, I mean, pretty much everyone on campus has heard the stories or they know someone
AGP: Yeah. Yeah.
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you up there." And then they call the rest of us, that the people don't know, say, "Hey, we're going up
there at this time. Be there." And so we'll just go around scaring people. We've got it clown to an art sc>
that i.hey c.::;tc>iii words, we'll k cvv how to react.
AGP: Can you give me an example of that?
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it. And just south of that big old house, there's three little cabins. And they come walking down, and
they kind of, they're making noise, you know. And we have person that throws on a hood, and they're
standing in the glass window. And what they do is, they'll walk around to the side of the house, and
they'll take a flashlight, and they'll run it over the window; and they'll see someone there. And they'll
kind of freak out, and they'll run it back. And by the time they pass it by the second time, the person
ducks below the window so t hey're not sec11. So you sec a shactov:, <:~ silhci.i~t'.. c o~ a p.:.f5!)!1 at fr JL Th.:: .-,
the second time, it's gone. That really gets to girls. There was a couple times where they'!! come walking
by, and there's just slamming doors shut. Funny experience v,;lth that, is we were preparing ourselves
than fivz fe:3t taiL So you got J '.'.tJJl here, .:md there .. nd so I want to see how loud it would sound, shut.
So l :;l;:,mmcd the -::!oor, Jnd th: de-or j<::m:ncd vn us. So t :::r.:'s three of us. We're all pulling on the door
to come barre! it down vith the shou!d~r, prop it open. It was a pretty funny experience.
TE: Well, at first I was like, "Oh, crap, what to do?" But I realized we were up there with friends. but if I
had been up there by rn\·sc!f, i wouk~'vc been t ·r rificd, 'OLJ knvv •. Btr'. ~ir:u' 1.\''- wcr u;; H:cr::· v ·iii:~
group of people, we're becoming more familiar with area.
AGP: Yeah.
TE: So ycu kind of k~o l\.1 ·.'hat to Gxpect and vhat not to expect.
TE: Yeah. We got to.
AGP: Yeah. Yeah.
and see like this was built in the '60s or 70s and kind of see the structure of it. It's super close to the
highway, but there's so many trees around. If you don't it's there, you'll never notice it.
TE: Just trying to think if there's been anything else. I t hink those are like the main stories.
TE: The main experience where you see the silhouette in the pool. Oh, there's one time, we came out of
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bag. It was probably about five and half, six feet tall. We were like, "What the crap?" It looked like a
body bag.
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TE: And we had our freshman roommate, and he was trying to prove himself to us.
AGP: Yeah.
TE: So we dared him to go and check it out because it just looked suspicious. So after about twenty
minutes of convincing him to go down, he went and ripped the bag open. It was just a bag of leaves. It
was just funny seeing that. It's something I think lots of people should go up there and check it out
because it's pretty interesting.
AGP: Do you think, because I didn't really get a lot of responses as far as people going back up to the
Nunnery, so do you think it's rare or do you think? I mean, are you one of the only groups of people that
go up there or do you think other people do it?
TE: If they do, they don't do it as much as us. You know what I mean?
AGP: Yeah.
TE: Because, like I've said, we've probably gone up there a dozen or more times, and we've never seen
another group up there.
AGP: And have you ever heard people talk about it?
( TE: I haven't heard anyone talk about going up there. If we have, it's like people going up there like two
years ago.
AGP: Yeah.
TE: Nothing too recent.
AGP: Well, again, is there anything else you would like to say?
TE: I think that's it.
AGP: I think that's it. Okay.
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Judge issues warrant for St. Anne’s defendant - One of retreat trio fails to show up for hearing
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
A bench warrant was issued this morning after a man accused of terrorizing 38 teenagers and young adults at the St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon failed to appear for his preliminary hearing.
Arthur Peasnall of Tooele County was scheduled to appear at 1st District Court in Logan at 9 this morning. The two other men charged in the case, John Jeppson of Pocatello, Idaho, and Chris Doerr of Tooele County, were present for the hearing, but Judge Clint Judkins continued it until 1:30 this afternoon and ordered a bench warrant issued for Peasnall.
Judkins made his decision at 10:20 a.m. when Peasnall had still not arrived. No one in the court, including his attorney, Arden Lauritzen, could account for his whereabouts.
“Use your contacts in Tooele County and do what you have to do to find him,” Judkins said to Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt.
Many of the witnesses set to testify at the hearing and their family members expressed displeasure at the delay.
The preliminary hearing is being held for the state to prove it has enough evidence to bring its case against the three men to trial. The men were arrested in October after they tied up and allegedly threatened to kill 38 trespassers on the retreat they were caretaking for. They are also accused of touching the breasts of one juvenile, claiming they were searching her for weapons.
The men are each charged with six counts of aggravated assault and one count of forcible sexual abuse. All three were released from the Cache County Jail shortly after their arrest on $5,000 bail each.
The Herald Journal will have a report on this afternoon’s development in its Thursday edition.
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Bench warrant was issued by court for Arthur Peasnall, one of the security guards in the St. Anne's trespassing drama.
Judge issues warrant for St. Anne’s defendant - One of retreat trio fails to show up for hearing
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
A bench warrant was issued this morning after a man accused of terrorizing 38 teenagers and young adults at the St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon failed to appear for his preliminary hearing.
Arthur Peasnall of Tooele County was scheduled to appear at 1st District Court in Logan at 9 this morning. The two other men charged in the case, John Jeppson of Pocatello, Idaho, and Chris Doerr of Tooele County, were present for the hearing, but Judge Clint Judkins continued it until 1:30 this afternoon and ordered a bench warrant issued for Peasnall.
Judkins made his decision at 10:20 a.m. when Peasnall had still not arrived. No one in the court, including his attorney, Arden Lauritzen, could account for his whereabouts.
“Use your contacts in Tooele County and do what you have to do to find him,” Judkins said to Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt.
Many of the witnesses set to testify at the hearing and their family members expressed displeasure at the delay.
The preliminary hearing is being held for the state to prove it has enough evidence to bring its case against the three men to trial. The men were arrested in October after they tied up and allegedly threatened to kill 38 trespassers on the retreat they were caretaking for. They are also accused of touching the breasts of one juvenile, claiming they were searching her for weapons.
The men are each charged with six counts of aggravated assault and one count of forcible sexual abuse. All three were released from the Cache County Jail shortly after their arrest on $5,000 bail each.
The Herald Journal will have a report on this afternoon’s development in its Thursday edition.
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Judge orders St. Anne’s trio to trial - Trespassing teens testify of horrifying canyon experience
By Jacob Santini
Senior News Writer
Three men accused of assaulting 30 high school students from Cache Valley, at what was once a Catholic retreat, are going to trial later this month.
Judge Clint Judkins ruled Thursday afternoon that the state had enough evidence to hold trial for Christopher Doerr, Arthur Peasnall and John Jeppson. Doerr and Peasnall are both charged with six counts of aggravated assault. Jeppson is charged with one count of forcable [forcible] sexual assault and six counts of aggravated assault.
According to one of the victims, the first alleged crime occurred at around 2 a.m. on Oct. 10. The three accused men caught a group of men and women trespassing on the property of Saint Anne’s Retreat.
Once the tree guards found them, Jeppson fired a shot into the air and told the eight to get down. Once on the ground, the individuals were retained with plastic cuffs and then taken to the main lodge room. Jeppson then wrapped a rope around the necks of the group and told them if they moved their heads would be burnt off, he said.
The second incident occurred Oct. 10 about 9:30 p.m. Three groups of local high school students say they were ambushed on the bridge and then cuffed together.
In testimony on Wednesday in Logan’s First District Courthouse, a 17-year-old girls who is accusing Jeppson of sexually assaulting her, said the group of 11 friends were walking across the bridge when a man came running at them and fired a shot into the air.
“He yelled get down on the f’ing ground; you are all under arrest,” the woman said. “Then he fired his gun in the air.”. . . [missing text] of high school students who were face down in the ground, the girl said.
Once all of the kids were on the ground they were handcuffed together with plastic flex cuffs.
Once restrained, the girl testified, Jeppson sexually assaulted her.
“He searched up both of my legs and then around my behind just patting around,” the girl said. “The then put both hands up my stomach and over my breast and then back down over my stomach.”
“I was so afraid, I didn’t know what to think,” the girls said, crying.
The group of about 30 students were then led to the empty pool on the Saint Anne’s property, according to testimony.
They made us kneel down in the pool and then they put a wire around our necks. He (Jeppson) said it would blow up if any of us moved because it was attached to an explosive, she said.
Another 17-year-old girls said she was injured after Jeppson had grabbed her by the collar and jerked her head back and then forward again.
Johnson said, “He (Jeppson) said ‘Shut up or do you want that rope any tighter.”
Jeppson’s defense attorney David Perry pointed out that vandals had caused extensive damage to the property on the Wednesday and Thursday prior to the Friday that the high school kids trespassed. The eight in the group held by the three men on Friday morning had also threatened to be back later to get revenge on the men, Perry said.
The defense attorney for Doerr, Barbara Lochmar said, “Was it reasonable for Jr. Jeppson, Mr. Doerr and Mr. Peasnall to believe that a felony was going to be committed?
“There had been burglaries the two nights prior and their lives had been threatened earlier that morning,” Lochmar said. “There was reasonable belief that a crime was going to be committed.”
For a crime to be an aggravated assault, deadly force must have been used, Lochmar said.
“Did they use deadly force?” she asked. “They shot in the air and shot to the sides of the people. I’m not so sure that deadly force was used.”
In response, Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt said, “A loaded gun falls under deadly weapon. A felony to injure or use deadly weapon is deadly force.
“If every time someone steps in my backyard and made a noise I could shoot at them, then we live in a sorry world,” Wyatt said.
The charge of forceable [forcible] sexual assault was dropped against Doerr and Peasnall by Judkins because there was no evidence which showed they had sexually assaulted any of the high schoolers.
Peasnall is currently in the custody of Cache County Jail. Jukdkins issued a bench warrant for him when he failed to appear at the preliminary hearing on Wednesday morning. Peasnall was picked up in Tooele County and brought to the courthouse that afternoon. His bail was reset at $5,000.
An arraignment for the three will be held on March 23.
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Trespassing legend-trippses testify about their experience at St. Anne's retreat when they were ambushed by three watchmen.
Judge orders St. Anne’s trio to trial - Trespassing teens testify of horrifying canyon experience
By Jacob Santini
Senior News Writer
Three men accused of assaulting 30 high school students from Cache Valley, at what was once a Catholic retreat, are going to trial later this month.
Judge Clint Judkins ruled Thursday afternoon that the state had enough evidence to hold trial for Christopher Doerr, Arthur Peasnall and John Jeppson. Doerr and Peasnall are both charged with six counts of aggravated assault. Jeppson is charged with one count of forcable [forcible] sexual assault and six counts of aggravated assault.
According to one of the victims, the first alleged crime occurred at around 2 a.m. on Oct. 10. The three accused men caught a group of men and women trespassing on the property of Saint Anne’s Retreat.
Once the tree guards found them, Jeppson fired a shot into the air and told the eight to get down. Once on the ground, the individuals were retained with plastic cuffs and then taken to the main lodge room. Jeppson then wrapped a rope around the necks of the group and told them if they moved their heads would be burnt off, he said.
The second incident occurred Oct. 10 about 9:30 p.m. Three groups of local high school students say they were ambushed on the bridge and then cuffed together.
In testimony on Wednesday in Logan’s First District Courthouse, a 17-year-old girls who is accusing Jeppson of sexually assaulting her, said the group of 11 friends were walking across the bridge when a man came running at them and fired a shot into the air.
“He yelled get down on the f’ing ground; you are all under arrest,” the woman said. “Then he fired his gun in the air.”. . . [missing text] of high school students who were face down in the ground, the girl said.
Once all of the kids were on the ground they were handcuffed together with plastic flex cuffs.
Once restrained, the girl testified, Jeppson sexually assaulted her.
“He searched up both of my legs and then around my behind just patting around,” the girl said. “The then put both hands up my stomach and over my breast and then back down over my stomach.”
“I was so afraid, I didn’t know what to think,” the girls said, crying.
The group of about 30 students were then led to the empty pool on the Saint Anne’s property, according to testimony.
They made us kneel down in the pool and then they put a wire around our necks. He (Jeppson) said it would blow up if any of us moved because it was attached to an explosive, she said.
Another 17-year-old girls said she was injured after Jeppson had grabbed her by the collar and jerked her head back and then forward again.
Johnson said, “He (Jeppson) said ‘Shut up or do you want that rope any tighter.”
Jeppson’s defense attorney David Perry pointed out that vandals had caused extensive damage to the property on the Wednesday and Thursday prior to the Friday that the high school kids trespassed. The eight in the group held by the three men on Friday morning had also threatened to be back later to get revenge on the men, Perry said.
The defense attorney for Doerr, Barbara Lochmar said, “Was it reasonable for Jr. Jeppson, Mr. Doerr and Mr. Peasnall to believe that a felony was going to be committed?
“There had been burglaries the two nights prior and their lives had been threatened earlier that morning,” Lochmar said. “There was reasonable belief that a crime was going to be committed.”
For a crime to be an aggravated assault, deadly force must have been used, Lochmar said.
“Did they use deadly force?” she asked. “They shot in the air and shot to the sides of the people. I’m not so sure that deadly force was used.”
In response, Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt said, “A loaded gun falls under deadly weapon. A felony to injure or use deadly weapon is deadly force.
“If every time someone steps in my backyard and made a noise I could shoot at them, then we live in a sorry world,” Wyatt said.
The charge of forceable [forcible] sexual assault was dropped against Doerr and Peasnall by Judkins because there was no evidence which showed they had sexually assaulted any of the high schoolers.
Peasnall is currently in the custody of Cache County Jail. Jukdkins issued a bench warrant for him when he failed to appear at the preliminary hearing on Wednesday morning. Peasnall was picked up in Tooele County and brought to the courthouse that afternoon. His bail was reset at $5,000.
An arraignment for the three will be held on March 23.
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Judge sets trial date for trio
All three arraigned on aggravated assault charges; lawyers may seek change of venue.
By The Associated Press
A June 8 trial date has been scheduled for three men charged with aggravated assault for allegedly using too much force to detain trespassing youngsters at a Logan Canyon retreat.
John Jeppson of Pocatello, Idaho, Chris Doerr and Arthur Peasnall, both of Tooele County, were arraigned on Monday on six counts each of the third-degree felony.
Jeppson also is charged with forcible sexual abuse for allegedly touching the breast and buttocks of a female trespasser while searching her.
The men are accused of using violence to detain 38 young people who entered the former St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon on Oct. 10 for a Halloween season thrill.
The young people, ranging in age from 16-21, initially were charged with trespassing. But the owners of the private retreat asked that charges be dismissed after hearing allegations that three men staying there terrorized the youths.
The three were bound over for trial earlier this month after a preliminary hearing.
Jeppson had been represented by public defender David Perry, but during Monday’s arraignment, Perry told 1st District Judge Clint Judkins that Jeppson has retained his own attorney, Greg Skordas of Salt Lake City.
Skordas will now have to approve the trial date.
If the tentative date works out, the trial is expected to last four and a half days.
Logan attorney Arden Lauritzen, who represents Peasnall, and Doerr’s attorney, Barbara Lachmar, said they will confer with Skordas about the possibility of asking to move the trial to another county.
Judkins said all motions must be filed with the court by April 20.
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A trial date has been set for all three watchmen accused of aggravated assaulting trespassing teenagers at St. Anne's retreat.
Judge sets trial date for trio
All three arraigned on aggravated assault charges; lawyers may seek change of venue.
By The Associated Press
A June 8 trial date has been scheduled for three men charged with aggravated assault for allegedly using too much force to detain trespassing youngsters at a Logan Canyon retreat.
John Jeppson of Pocatello, Idaho, Chris Doerr and Arthur Peasnall, both of Tooele County, were arraigned on Monday on six counts each of the third-degree felony.
Jeppson also is charged with forcible sexual abuse for allegedly touching the breast and buttocks of a female trespasser while searching her.
The men are accused of using violence to detain 38 young people who entered the former St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon on Oct. 10 for a Halloween season thrill.
The young people, ranging in age from 16-21, initially were charged with trespassing. But the owners of the private retreat asked that charges be dismissed after hearing allegations that three men staying there terrorized the youths.
The three were bound over for trial earlier this month after a preliminary hearing.
Jeppson had been represented by public defender David Perry, but during Monday’s arraignment, Perry told 1st District Judge Clint Judkins that Jeppson has retained his own attorney, Greg Skordas of Salt Lake City.
Skordas will now have to approve the trial date.
If the tentative date works out, the trial is expected to last four and a half days.
Logan attorney Arden Lauritzen, who represents Peasnall, and Doerr’s attorney, Barbara Lachmar, said they will confer with Skordas about the possibility of asking to move the trial to another county.
Judkins said all motions must be filed with the court by April 20.
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Last of the retreat suspects arrested
The third and final suspect accused of violently detaining and threatening 38 people at the St. Anne’s retreat on Oct. 10 was arrested Sunday morning.
Arthur Peasnall, 22, of Tooele was taken into custody by Cache County deputy sheriffs. Peasnall is charged with six counts of aggravated assault. He posted $5,000 bail and was released from jail shortly after the arrest.
Two other suspects in the incident, John Jeppson of Pocatello, Idaho, and his son-in-law Chriss Doerr of Tooele County, were arrested last month, and both posted bail.
Jeppson, considered the lead property watchman in the assault, is scheduled to be arraigned in 1st District Court on Nov. 10. Dates have not been set yet for the two other men.
The three men are accused of tying up, threatening and assaulting young people who were caught trespassing at the cabin site in Logan Canyon.
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Third watchman arrested on assault charges for taking part in the detention of 38 trespassing legend-trippers at St. Anne's retreat on October 10, 1997.
Last of the retreat suspects arrested
The third and final suspect accused of violently detaining and threatening 38 people at the St. Anne’s retreat on Oct. 10 was arrested Sunday morning.
Arthur Peasnall, 22, of Tooele was taken into custody by Cache County deputy sheriffs. Peasnall is charged with six counts of aggravated assault. He posted $5,000 bail and was released from jail shortly after the arrest.
Two other suspects in the incident, John Jeppson of Pocatello, Idaho, and his son-in-law Chriss Doerr of Tooele County, were arrested last month, and both posted bail.
Jeppson, considered the lead property watchman in the assault, is scheduled to be arraigned in 1st District Court on Nov. 10. Dates have not been set yet for the two other men.
The three men are accused of tying up, threatening and assaulting young people who were caught trespassing at the cabin site in Logan Canyon.
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This thesis talks about legend-tripping at St. Anne’s Retreat and examines the origin and history of Hecate who plays a central role in this oral tradition.
LEGEND-TRIPPING AT ST. ANNE'S RETREAT
and
HECATE IN LOGAN CANYON: ORIGIN, BELIEF, AND CONTEMPORARY ORAL
TRADITION
by
Anna-Maria Sna:bjornsd6ttir Arnlj6ts
Two essays submitted in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree
Approved:
Jeannie Thomas
Committee Member
of
MASTER OF ARTS
In
American Studies
(Plan B)
Barre Toelken
Major Professor
UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY
Logan, Utah
2000
Randy Williams
Committee Member
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Legend-Tripping at St. Anne's Retreat
What is now referred to as St. Anne's Retreat was initially a summer home eight
miles up Logan Canyon, east of Logan, Utah. It was built in the 1930s by the Boyd
Hatch family from New York, and Mrs. Hortense OdIum. The property was donated in
the 1950s to the Roman Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City, and it was used occasionally
as a retreat and a vacation place for Sisters of the Holy Cross. Because it was not in
continuous use, there was ample opportunity for vandals to visit, even on nights when the
sisters were present. This prompted the nuns to get watch dogs to alert them to the
presence of intruders. The sisters felt unsafe with the increase of the sometimes
intoxicated young trespassers and vandals, and stopped coming to the retreat. In 1992,
Mark Epstein, together with some other investors, bought the property with plans of
turning it into vacation homes (Herald Journal, October 15, 1997. Pg. 16). What these
investors may not have anticipated was the long standing cultural gap between local
Mormons and Catholics, and how fear, belief, prejudice, and a generally accepted folk
tradition of legend-tripping would interfere with their hopes of vacationing peacefully in
the beautiful mountains of Logan Canyon.
Legend-tripping is a term that Linda Degh, William Ellis, and others use in
describing the practice of visiting the sites of supernatural legends. In a collection of
essays called "Legend-Trips and Satanism: Adolescents' Ostensive Tradition as 'Cult'
Activity, " Ellis quotes Kenneth Thigpen who describes legend tripping in three parts
consisting of "1) initiation into the story; 2) performing the acts that 'cause the
fulfillment of the legend'; and 3) retrospective discussion of what participants believed
happened, which then feeds back into the core story into which newcomers were
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initiated" (Ellis 1991 :280). The legends surrounding St. Anne's have provided a thrill to
local adolescents for generations as is manifested by the number of people of all
generations who claim to have taken part in legend tripping at St. Anne's.
St. Anne's retreat and the legends associated with it achieved national media
attention when over 30 high school students seeking to experience the "trip" of this
legendary place, were caught and fell into the hands of vigilante security guards. The
students were captured by three men, who were armed with shotguns; they were then
roped around the neck, handcuffed, and forced to kneel in an empty swimming pool
(Herald Journal, October 12, 1997, pg. 1). The legend-tripping youths embarked on a
"trip" more exciting than they had anticipated as some were allegedly verbally
threatened, physically abused, and sexually assaulted while awaiting the arrival of the
local police. What followed this incident was a public uproar against the watchmen's use
of force against the trespassers.
This paper will look at the circumstances around this event and how age
differences, religious folklore, and other cultural constructions play important roles in the
maintenance of a vivid local legend cluster. The paper will further analyze versions of
the St. Anne legend currently circulating among local high school students. I ultimately
hope to illustrate how the nature of folklore is manifested by incorporating the vigilante
incident into the legend cluster ofSt. Anne's retreat, evident in some ofthe recent
versions collected from seniors at a Logan High School.
The angry response of parents whose children were manhandled at the Retreat
while legend-tripping on Halloween in 1997 was based on their notion that teenage trips
to St. Anne's were so common that they constituted an understandable, coherent
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tradition, the rationale of which was more important than the relatively trivial matter of
trespass. In other words, local concepts of justice are heavily influenced here-as
elsewhere in the world-by local traditions. And if the tradition and its intemallogic are
that important, of course it tacitly affirms the local attitudes on differences in religion.
A different example of local concepts of justice being influenced by tradition may
be the blood libel case involving a child: Andrew ofRinn at Judenstein, a town near
Innsbruck, Austria is said in legend to have died by ritual murder at the hands of a Jew.
Alan Dundes relates that Eli Wiesenthal, a Nazi-hunter, "voices his dismay at seeing full
cars and busloads of school children making annual pilgrimages to Rinn under the
tutelage of their religious instructors to see the ritual murder lie depicted as a historical
event ... [t]his is depicted by three figures made of wood or wax in a menacing pose
with knives in hand surrounding a stone upon which was stretched out a supplicating
infant garbed in white" (Dundes, 342). In spite of great effort to stop pilgrimages to this
blood libel legend site, including orders from Pope John Paul XXli to remove certain
statues-the legend is treated as historical fact and thus the local concepts of justice in
Rinn, and the power of their folk belief and tradition carry on unchanged. The parallel
seen between the St. Anne's legends and the blood libel legends is clearly that local belief
and tradition in both cases justify a long standing custom--one that penetrates basic
principles and issues of a local population. For the St. Anne's legend this means legendtripping
to experience the legend by ostension; and in the case of Andrew ofRinn at
Judenstein, pilgrimages to the site that commemorates the child murdered there.
Recollections from older locals of the Cache Valley region, recalling their visit to
the "Nunnery," suggest a general consent to this behavior of legend-tripping associated
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with the belief and its tradition and suggests that this ritual functions as a rite of passage
for local individuals. This is evident from older generations of legend-trippers that
established the tradition of visiting St. Anne's; and thus viewed as a custom that one
would expect most locals to have participated in. The youths apprehended in Logan
Canyon on Halloween 1997 who expected fulfillment of the St. Anne legend, really did
get a thrill-but not of the sort they expected. Instead of red-eyed Dobermans, the
haunting sound of murdered babies crying out, Witch Hekate in the shape of a cloud
moving down the mountain, the car not starting, boulders falling down the mountain
upon curious visitors, blood in the swimming pool, (representing the death that the pool is
so much associated with), these trippers were ambushed in the night by armed men with
shotguns and held hostage for two hours.
Another story involving St. Anne's Retreat reflects an incident that again deals
with local traditions confronting an aggregate concept of justice. Diane Browning, a
former journalist for the local newspaper, The Herald Journal, wrote an article in 1986,
telling of the St. Anne's Retreat legends as a ghost story for Halloween. She related the
history of the article to me in a phone conversation (1997). After a co-worker told her
one of the St. Anne's legends, they decided it would be a fun piece to write for
Halloween (1986). However, the article instead created an emotional response from the
Logan Catholic community, who took the article as an intentional provocation. Diane
described verbally abusive anonymous phone calls and irate letters to the editor in The
Herald Journal. Also outraged by her article was the incumbent priest, who spent two
consecutive Sundays attacking the author from the pulpit, promoting a charged
atmosphere.
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Legend versions that Browning discussed in her article include: nuns raped and
murdered at the retreat, a nun who had given birth to a child while at St. Anne's,
drowning the baby in the swimming pool, and a nun coming out of the woods
accompanied by two white Doberman Pinschers with red eyes. Browning ended the
article by saying: "A note to the adventuresome: St. Anne's is located on private property
and is patrolled regularly by a night watchman" (Herald Journal, October 26, 1986). This
statement seems somewhat ironic-since eleven years later-the community becomes
witness to an incident on this property that specifically deals with vigilante actions by the
night watchmen.
Browning's newspaper article and the trespassing incident in 1997
involving St. Anne's, illustrate the magnificent potential of a legend, and the powerful
role that it plays in local folklore. This is further illustrated by the resiliency of the
legend as it persists in its navigation through time, through a periodic resurgence, giving
rise to otherwise dormant tensions between the Mormon majority and the Catholic
minority in Logan.
In the Fife Folklore Archives at Utah State University are some 50 legend
versions of the St. Anne's Retreat, and an additional 25 of the related Hecate legend
version, collected by students through the years. Several examples of these follow here
to facilitate an understanding the concepts and ideas involved in this discussion. The
current oral legend tradition appears to contain a basic version: example 1-8; and a
trespassing version that follows as trespass versions 1-4. [stories are written verbatim].
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1. The Old Nun
I once heard of some kids from Hyrum that went up to the old Catholic
Nunnery in Logan Canyon. There was three boys and three girls. It was
really late at night when they went, the guy had wanted to really scare their
girlfriends. They got out of their car, walked down the path towards the
Nunnery. Along the way was a couple of ponds. When they walked past the
ponds little hands reached up and grabbed all of them around the ankles.
They were all so scared that they took off running back to the car. Some of
the guys started asking around as to why this happened. An old Priest that
lives here in the valley told them that when there were people from the church
living there, some of the Nuns became pregnant by the Priests. The Nuns
would carry the baby to full term, and then to save the Church from
embarrassment, they would drown their babies in the ponds. When strangers
enter the property and walk by the ponds the babies' spirits will grab at them;
they try and pull themselves out of the water to keep from drowning (Fife
Folklore Archives, L2.1.12.1.27).
2. Freezing Nuns
St. Anne's was a place where nuns could go on a vacation, usually in the
summer or winter. One winter a long time ago, some nuns went up there to
stay. It was a very severe winter with lots of snow so a man had to bring
their supplies to them every week. He would take their fuel and food to
them because it was the only way they could get it. One week the man
couldn't get his wagon through, and he had to wait about two weeks before
he could go up there again. He finally made it up to the retreat, and he
found all the nuns had starved and frozen to death. He noticed that their
bodies had been chewed by dogs. He was very worried about this, and was
just leaving when he saw one of the nuns, whose name was Hekeda. She
began chasing him with her two dogs. He got away and told the towns
people what had happened. Hekeda still haunts the retreat with her dogs,
and you can see her chasing you in your rearview mirror as you are leaving.
It is believed she is of the devil (Fife Folklore Archives, ColI. 8. USU. 84-
050. Item 5).
3. St. Anne's Retreat
St. Anne's Retreat was originally established up Logan Canyon for Cache
Valley's Catholic nuns who needed to "get away" from things for awhile.
One nun got herself in trouble and as time passed her problem became more
noticeable. He[r] superiors knew that something needed to be done-she
couldn't walk the streets in her condition, so she was sent to the St. Anne's
for the duration of her pregnancy. The Mother Superior at St. Anne's talked
this nun into putting up the baby for adoption when it was born, because she
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thought this sort of thing was horrible. If the nun would agree to do as the
Mother Superior said, the Mother Superior would help her. If not, then she
could fend for herself. Well, as time went by and this nun spent her time
reading, thinking, swimming in the pool, and walking around the retreat and
in the nearby woods, she began to think of this child and knew she could
never give it up. She decided to leave the order and raise her baby. When
the baby was born she told her decision to the Mother Superior. The Mother
Superior did not agree and felt that she had to end this situation. One day
when this nun was sleeping, the Mother Superior took the baby and drowned
him in the swimming pool. The nun took it very hard, but couldn't believe
the Mother Superior would actually do this. She thought the Mother
Superior had taken the baby and given him to a family, or was hiding him
on the retreat somewhere. As she was recovering, she would take walks
around the retreat to see if she could find her baby. As she walked by the
pool one day, the Mother Superior pushed her in and she drowned. The
Mother Superior thought she had rectified the problem, and now could live
with herself after taking care of this nun. About three weeks later another
nun was sent to St. Anne's to rest and relax for a couple of weeks. One day
as she was walking past the swimming pool she saw a nun floating face
down in the pool. She screamed, and the Mother Superior came to see what
the problem was. The Mother Superior tried to grab at the nun in the pool,
but the nun disappeared. The second nun wanted to know what had
happened, but the Mother Superior would not say anything. The second nun
called the Father and told him to come up to the St. Anne's because there
was something wrong. the Father came and got to the bottom of what had
happened and soon after, the Mother Superior was taken from St. Anne's.
Shortly after this happened, the Catholic church sold St. Anne's Retreat. St.
Anne's is still used as a get away place for various groups and there have
been reports that the one nun is still looking for her baby. Some have seen
her walking around the retreat, and some have seen her floating in the pool.
While there are no reports of anyone talking to this nun, there are plenty of
reports of people who have seen her, so as you go camping in this part of
Logan Canyon, beware of the nun (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.1.12.1.34).
4. Saint-Ann-Retreat
Saint-Ann was a nunery a long time ago. As Catholic, nuns are not suppose
to have sex or any relationship with male. However, some nuns up at SaintAnn
had broke the rule and got pregnant. When babies were born, the nuns
killed the babies by drowning them in a pool in the back of Sain-Ann. Some
of the nuns felt guilty and killed themselves also. Now, the nuns sometimes
appear back to visit the place. There is a watchman with two dobermans
and a gun to keep the public out (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.1.12.1.14).
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5. Hekeda and Her Dogs
All the nuns and mother superior lived at St. Anne's. One of the nun's name
was Hekeda, and she took care of seven afghan hounds. In the early 1920' s a
guy went up there and killed and raped them all. All of the bodies were
found except Hekeda's and the dog's. Every time someone goes up to St.
Anne's to fix it up, they always hear dogs barking, and then see a lantern on
the ountain. You can see the figure of a woman walking her dogs up there at
night. If you yell the name Hekeda three times, a blue fog will cover your
car, and you won't be able to come down out of the canyon (Fife Folklore
Archives, ColI. 8. USU. 84-050. Item 6).
6. The Lynching Mob
This actually happened sometime in the early sixties. St. Anne's was a
vacation area, and there were about twelve or thirteen nuns up there when
one of them went bezerk. She just went bonkers. She had been training
these four Black Labs, which she had gotten from Hekeda, to kill. She kept
them in a woodshed on the mountainside, and one night she let the dogs
loose. She got a lantern and a hatchet, and she and her dogs slaughtered all
of the nuns. Time passed and nothing was discovered until someone made a
delivery to the retreat. The person who found the dead nuns went back to
Logan and got a bunch of people together. This mob of people went up to St.
Anne's, and they found the crazy nun, and they decided to hang her. They
gave her the chance to speak her last words, and she said, "I will forever
haunt this place." She still haunts St. Anne's today (Fife Folklore Archives,
ColI. 8. USU. 84-050. Item 8).
7. Saint Anne's Retreat
A long time ago there used to be a nunnery at Saint Anne's. One of the
nuns got pregnant by a young priest. She hid the fact that she was
pregnant for a long time. When she had the baby she was told she had to
leave the nunnery. She was grieved at what had happened and went out
and drowned her baby in the swimming pool, then hung herself. Her
spirit haunts the place in the form of a dog. Sometimes people can hear
dogs howling at Saint Anne's. Nobody has ever seen the dogs (Fife
Folklore Archives, L2.1.12.1.37).
8. Heckada
If you go up Logan Canyon to 3rd dam and cross the bridge into the
Spring Hollow area or go to the Quarry up Providence Canyon, you can
summon the Devil's wife, her name is Heckada. My friend's brother's
girlfriend's brother had a friend that did this very thing. He and a date
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went up to the Spring Hollow area, for some romancing. After being
turned down he got out of the car and yelled the phrase "Heckada, come
get me" this was the saying that you needed to say to get Heckada to
appear. After saying it a few times he returned to the car. His date was
scared, which was his main intention for doing the little prank, or so he
thought. After a few minutes of sitting there they began to hear dogs
barking, they looked up and saw a green glowing chariot pulled by six
wolves, and a mistress with long flowing hair at the reins. At about the
same instance the doors locked, the boy and date was pretty scared by
this time so the boy tried to get the car started but it seemed like the
battery was dead, nothing would start or no lights would come on. By
this time the wolves were on the hood of the car clawing at it and
grow ling. The mistress stared into the boy's eyes and said "I have come
for you." The boy freaked out and didn't know what to do, the girl was
screaming and crying. Then the boy remembered to say "In the name of
Jesus Christ I command you to leave," at the very instance of saying
that, the mistress and her wolves disappeared. The boy then started the
car and returned to Logan. Upon returning to his date's house they
looked at the hood and saw scratches that the wolves left (Fife Folklore
Archives, L2.3.1.15.9).
These legends may function to express curiosity, suspicion and even fear of a
minority religion by a local majority. They may also function as a means of
illustrating the idea that outside religions are too strange for local adolescents to take
seriously by creating a sense of fear and skepticism about their behavior. Such stories
allow for hostility toward another group to be expressed in narrative dramas rather
than the form of physical harm. Nonetheless, it is clear that there is a considerable
emotional load in these stories as well, and it is important for us to wonder why. It
will become increasingly clear through these legend examples and discussion
throughout this paper of different themes and issues that surface, and the function that
this oral tradition serves.
The trespass legend versions that circulate today tell about the horrors occurring
during the incident on Halloween of 1997. Examples 1-4 follow:
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Trespass Story: 1
My father has told me stories of when he would visit there, and my
friend did some research on it last summer. I've heard about the kids
that went up there and the caretaker tied them up in the pool and
harassed them [my emphasis]. My father told me about stories where he
would go up there and play pranks on his dates. Him and his friends
would dress up like ghosts and act out scenes with real rifles and blanks.
I have heard something about somebody dying in the pool, and people
making sacrifice up there [merger of traditional story and trespass
version of 1997] (Logan High survey).
Trespass Story: 2
I heard that there were some high school students were at the nunery and
they got kidnapped [my emphasis] and tied up and I heard they were
breaking into [my emphasis] the nunery (Logan High survey).
Trespass Story: 3
I probably only know rumors from people around me at my school. I
don't know any facts about it. I have heard that there is a nunery up the
canyon where little kids were murdered. Then I heard that kids from my
school and others went up there and got caught by cops. My friend has
been there, and she said it was really scary [a mixture of the basic story
and trespass version of 1997] (Logan High survey).
Trespass Story: 4
The only thing that I have heard about it was about the teens who
where trying to break in and they got harassed [my emphasis] [1997
events] (Logan High survey).
There are several themes that can be observed in various versions of these legends
that address the Mormon-Catholic tensions. The story of "Witch Hekate," identified
with the Mother Superior, and her red-eyed Dobermans, symbolize the evil connotation
that the locals have associated with the Catholic church. The ancient belief of dogs as a
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symbol of evil is seen in this legend by .the presence of Witch Hekate's Dobermansfurther
attempting to associate the nuns as evil (Barre Toelken, personal communication).
Also with origins in ancient belief, is the theme of sexuality and pregnancy at St.
Anne' s- which comes from the old notion that nuns and priests secretly engaged in
sexual encounters (Barre Toelken, personal communication). In the case of the legend,
the horror of disposing of these unwanted pregnancies follows.
The congruency between the dramatic images of the legends and local western
and Mormon values suggests still another level of meaning for these narratives.
Teenagers from a patriarchal society go away from town to experience the thrill of danger
in a female-dominated place; teenagers who are dating but are exhorted to refrain from
sex until after marriage go there to be thrilled by legends of women who are prohibited
from having sex, and who don't get married, but who have illegitimate babies anyway;
espousing religion and abhorring murder, they visit places where religious people are said
to have been murdered.
To understand the emotional load and the religious dimension in these legends is
to understand local belief and perception of the world, including the presence of the
Catholic Retreat established some fifty years ago Logan Canyon. Fundamental attitudes
of Mormons towards Catholics is an essential component of the religious dimension, but
what appears prominent through the legends is gender-and the struggle to maintain, and
confirm the male role in this religious culture. The legends serve as faith promoting
events of not only the male establishing his role as dominant, but also to verify that the
Mormon church is superior and one that will prevail over the other.
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Mormon attitudes towards Catholics is well documented. Thomas quotes the
following from personal communication with William A. Wilson, a Mormon scholar:
Mormons see Catholics as the principal apostate church. Protestant
churches have at least tried to draw closer to the original church in their
reform movements, but Catholics have steadfastly persisted in their error, in
their apostasy, and are therefore easily connected with evil. Bruce
McConkie called the Catholic Church the great and abominable church
before he was forced to recant; some missionaries refer to the church as the
"G & A." Missionaries to Catholic countries often come home with tales of
evil nuns and priests" (Thomas, 18).
It is clear to see how attitudes such as these mentioned can determine the
perception of this particular religious culture. Through the legends one can detect
apprehension, fear and anxieties of the presence of the outside religion as well
maintain male dominance of this patriarchal culture. The male confirms his status and
role as dominant male legend-tripping through ostension to maintain, and confirm the
importance and continuation of his role as male in his culture. Male dominance is
established in legend as initiator of courtship; protector against evil by averting evil
with power of priesthood (Example above: 2. Heckada: L2.3.1.15.9).
Another theme presented in some legends is the female outsider vs. the male
insider: the female breaks the rules in these legends and pays the penalty. She either
becomes ostracized as the nun who becomes pregnant in St. Anne's Retreat:
(L2. 1. 12. 1.34) which is noted by the following: St. Anne's Retreat was originally
established up Logan Canyon for Cache Valley's Catholic nuns who needed to "get
away" from things for awhile. One nun got herself in trouble ... she couldn't walk the
streets in her condition, so she was sent to St. Anne's ... " This may not only be
illustrating the attitudes of the local Mormon religion of their perception of such a
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situation by stating that pregnant unwed women cause shame and should be hidden
away-but this situation may also be inverse of reality and that it reflects their own
attitudes about as if happened to their own. The punishment for breaking moral codes
may even become rape and murder as in the following version S. "Hekeda and Her
Dogs" (Fife Folklore Archives, ColI. 8. usu. ColI. 8. 84-0S0.Item 6). The stories
projected on the nuns and the punishment received for breaking the rules may illustrate
local attitudes and feelings towards moral transgressions. Thus the legends send a strong
message to conform to local codes of living.
Other themes represented are 1) In the first version: nun gets pregnant by a priest;
nun has baby and drowns it in the legendary swimming pool located at St. Anne's; nun
commits suicide but remains as a ghost and haunts the place (as a dog); sounds of dogs
howling. 2) The second version: An example of legend-tripping functioning as teenage
courtship scene. (Toelken, personal communication; Fife Folklore Archives:
L2.3.1.1S.9; Thomas, IS). Boy takes girl to this haunted place with hopes of romancing.
Also present is the notion of calling Hekate's name three times to make Hekate appear.
This of course not only has the effect of scaring the girl, but also brings about various
phenomena as described in the story. There is also the presence of dogs, a green
glowing chariot with Hekate at the helm; she also later speaks to the boy, and the car not
starting. There is a definite religious overtone as well in this traditional story. The boy
chases away the evil (nun) Hekate with the words "In the name of Jesus Christ.. .. "
This seems to suggest the idea that the righteous and powerful religion prevails over the
evil presence of the other. This is followed by a safe return as explained by the
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the safety of their own LDS culture" (Thomas, 18). This would also have the effect and
function as a "faith promoting" (Thomas, 16; Hufford, 222) event for the couple and
undoubtedly the event would continue to serve its purpose in narrative form for the
inspiration of others.
In trespass version (1) the father condones a legend-tripping tradition to St.
Anne's because he recollects his own trips to this legendary site. In other words,
there remains a general acceptance of legend-trips to this supernatural site by
precedence of local tradition, and again, because the trips to St. Anne's are so
common that it becomes a justifiable, acceptable, and a coherent custom that
consequently affects local concepts of justice.
In several of these newer trespass versions, the intruders are perceived as
being victims and are described as being harassed, even though they are the ones
breaking in! This is significant in light of a general local perception that legendtripping
at St. Anne's is more than a local tradition and viewed by many as a
benign activity. Although it should be clear that large numbers of locals voicing
their opinion in letters to the editor articulated their dismay and frustration with the
trespassers.
In one of the stories (trespass version 3), kids are said to have been murdered at
St. Anne's; this is closely followed by the statement "kids from my school were caught
by cops." This has the appearance (as seen throughout these stories) that the trespassing
high school students were victims-even though they were breaking the law by entering
private property. It may also be a reflection of the traditional themes, incorporated into
the newer trespass stories.
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Still another possible level of meaning in the cluster of traditional stories can be
seen by using Alan Dunde's tenn "projective inversion." Dundes uses the blood libel
legend to illustrate this concept. This legend with origins in ancient times tells of Jews
killing Christian infants and children, using their blood in a ritual to make matzah. He
explains that: "The Christian guilt for indulging in symbolic ritual cannibalism is neatly
projected onto the Jews through such legends" (Dundes, 110). Dundes continues: "I am
persuaded that a more appropriate and revealing approach to the legend lies in the
Christian need for a Jewish scapegoat and in the psychological process I have tenned
"projective inversion"(Dundes, 352). The point is that the blood libel legend is Christian
folklore-"and that it is Christians, not Jews, who [tell and] would like to commit the
blood libel" (Dundes, 354). Also important to note that it was not the Jews who killed
Christ, it was the Romans. "Christians blame Jews for something which the Christians
needed to have happen, a thing which the Jews never did ... [so] projective inversion
refers to a psychological process in which A accuses B of carrying out an action which A
really wishes to carry out him or herself' (Dundes, 352-353). An example of what makes
clear the projective inversion in the blood libel legend is suggested by the following facts:
Jews are prohibited from consuming blood; but Christians, take part in a ritual of
consuming the body of Christ by the symbolic bread and wine (or bread and water)
symbolizing the body and blood of the Christ. Along these lines of wish fulfillment, it
appears that Christians are projecting upon the Jews what they themselves are guilty ofwhich
is killing and consuming the body of Christ.
Some of the themes in the legends of St. Anne's, parallel to the blood libel
legend, appear to be the reverse of reality:
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--the ghostly nuns are described as menacing and aggressive, intruding on the
visiting teenagers' courtship scene; when in fact the teenagers were trespassing
on church property.
--the nuns are described as sexually active, thus breaking local religious and
moral codes, when of course the teenagers are the ones doing the courtship
game.
These examples suggest that the very characteristics attributed to the ghostly nuns
are actually projections of the young legend-trippers, phrased in such a way as to blame
the aberrations on the other. Thomas states a similar point when infonning us that" ...
the majority of those telling the legend are Monnons ... [and that the] St. Anne's legend
versions are ostensibly about Catholics and certain Catholic practices; however, a closer
study of the versions reveals that they are really about Monnons and their view of
Catholics ... " (Thomas, 15). This appears to support the notion of projective inversion
and its function in the St. Anne's legends by projecting an inverse reality.
It has been nearly three years since the ambush of local legend-trippers by
security guards at St. Anne's. The stories currently circulating among local youth
continue to illustrate the dynamics of folklore and the power of local tradition. Tradition
propelled by local belief is clearly seen in the survey of local high school students,
recalling the Halloween trespass incident of 1997; basic versions were also produced in
the survey. Out of twenty-five students surveyed, fourteen mentioned elements from the
trespassing event, while eleven used a traditional motif. So what does this mean?
It tells us that this incident of three years ago was more than news. In fact it
clearly fits into a so-called "civic brush fire incident." Grant Davie uses this phrase in
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describing local news bits that have a huge impact on the local population (Grant Davie,
1-2). It is evident by local newspaper articles and particularly editorials, both in the 1997
trespass incident, and certainly also the uproar that Diane Browning's article created in
1986, that St. Anne's is a topic that clearly fits into this "civic brush fire" category.
Grant-Davie proposes four qualifying areas as conditions for civic brush fire incidents
and St. Anne's is one of his examples:
1) A provocative incident: The St. Anne's controversy was started in
dramatic fashion by two events in quick succession: first the teens' visit to
the property and the caretakers' hostile reaction, and then the raising of
criminal charges against all involved. 2) An emblematic object or image:
In the example of the St. Anne's incident, the incident itself provided a
strong enough image-an angry, nighttime confrontation between a few
armed men and a crowd of thrill-seeking teenagers-to excite the general
public's imagination. 3) Accessible media and forums: The St. Anne's
debate was played out in at least seven articles, two guest commentaries, 17
letters to the editor, more than 50-callin messages (a selection of nine of
which were printed), and an editorial. 4) A conflict between threatened
values: This was very apparent in the St. Anne's incident, which became a
debate between property rights and civil rights. The first wave of letters to
the editor sided with the caretakers, who were characterized as heroes
wrongly crucified for defending property and taking a stand against
vandalism, while the second wave defended the teens' actions as a
harmless, traditional prank and condemned the caretakers for assaulting
and terrorizing them (Grant Davie, 3-5). [only definition, and material
pertaining to St. Anne's included]
Grant-Davie also suggests that the brush fires surrounding the St. Anne's incident
"were fueled by some fundamental issues and deeply-rooted values [my emphasis] that
fired the public emotions" (Grant Davie, 6). So, yes--clearly the St. Anne's incident on
Halloween 1997 was more than local news-it goes much deeper than that. It taps
fundamental group values with regards to ex: religion, gender, and property rights, that
play a crucial role in this particular "civic brush fire" and fire up emotional debates
among the local population.
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I would like to suggest another level beyond the idea of property vs. civil rights.
This has to do with the fundamental and inherent rights as seen by the locals, of
upholding and justifying a long standing tradition of legend-tripping at St. Anne's vs. the
property owners' rights to stand up against vandalism. I propose that fundamentally it is
an issue of property vs. civil rights, but in essence it becomes an issue of local concepts
of justice vs. local folklore and tradition. Local concepts of justice are diverse and may
stem from dominant Mormon religious beliefs as can be noted throughout this discussion.
Legend-tripping at St. Anne's becomes justifiable due to the long standing custom and
tradition established in the past 50 years.
The incident of Halloween 1997 in Logan Canyon had such an impact on local
youth that stories are still circulating that tell of the frightening events surrounding the
trespassing incident. It is important to note that out of the 25 students surveyed, fourteen
stories contained primarily data of the trespassing event. This appears to demonstrate the
powerful emotions around the event itself, certainly property vs. civil rights, and lastly
the concepts of justice in defense of tradition. Perhaps the traditional St. Anne's legend
depicting supernatural phenomena-is certainly frightening enough but the memories of
the ambush of local high school students on Halloween 1997 remain a dominant image.
These are recollections of a small sample group of students surveyed as representative of
their knowledge ofSt. Anne's Retreat. So vivid are the memories ofthis event that some
of the students surveyed vow never to participate in any legend-tripping activity to at St.
Anne's.
What we have is a history of a legend-tripping custom which entails visiting a site
of the supernatural-a thrill seeking event-experiencing the legend by ostension by
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• event of 1997; then the "civic brush fire" (Grant-Davie, 1) ignited after Browning's
article on Halloween 1986 that caused considerable emotional distress in the Catholic
community. In 1997, the public debate primarily deals with property rights vs. civil
• rights, and also local concepts of justice vs. local folklore and tradition; whereas in 1986
the incident provoked tension among Catholics and Mormons. Both cases involve the
legendary St. Anne's Retreat and the local lore persisting through the generations. • The trespass legend versions of 1997 collected recently from local high school . ,
students illustrate yet another dimension to the St. Anne's legend. They portray a
• sentiment of pity for the teenage offenders- portraying the lawless teenagers as victims.
It is a case where the community opinion (in the form of letters to the editor) appears to
be significantly divided, In my research it appears as though approximately fifty percent • defend property rights and condemn the behavior of the trespassers; the other fifty
percent largely condemn the actions taken by the caretakers at St. Anne's, and appear to
• minimize the incident as a teenage prank, or in some cases defend the actions of the
teenagers by indicating such things as rites of passage. According to a prominent local
resident cited in the Herald Journal, visiting St. Anne's is a local custom that most local
• residents at one time or another have taken part in. In general, the Herald Journal overall
displayed more sympathy towards the trespassers rather than those leasing the property.
The "ambush" of the trespassing teenagers was depicted vividly and as seemingly • unprovoked while little sympathy was lent to three security guards defending a property
on Halloween from 30 plus teenagers and young adults, in the middle of the night, in the
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media, and certainly did not for the most part take into account the circumstances in
which the security guards operated under. It also did not adequately sympathize with
threats previously made to caretakers. Nor did the newspaper adequately acknowledge
the frustrations of property owners facing ongoing vandalism and destruction of their
property in Logan Canyon. To illustrate the type of news paper rhetoric that at large
demonstrated bias towards the trespassers- a few quotes follow: [Cache County Sheriff
Lynn Nelson] "The kids were wrong to trespass, he said, but they were just looking to
have some fun. "The big issue here is what these other guys did to them" (Herald
Journal, October 14, 1997. Pg. 3). A similar sentiment states: [Cache County Attorney's
Office, Scott Wyatt] Wyatt said: "St. Anne's is a local haunted house on private property
and what happened when the carloads of youngsters got there is almost unbelievable ...
It's one of the most incredible things I've ever seen ... The kids should not have done
what they did because they were trespassing but that doesn't justify the reaction of these
guys ... "(Herald Journal, October 14, 1997. Pg. 3). To further illustrate this point is to
note that repeated issues the actions of the security guards are accentuated and depicting
them as the criminals. Detailed and repeated attention is given in describing the fate of
the trespassing youth as they entered the St. Anne's property. Such accounts are
commonly referred to as "Vietnam-style terror in Logan ... they [trespassers] were
ambushed, shot at, handcuffed, tied together by their necks and threatened with their lives
by shotgun-toting private guards (Herald Journal, October 12, 1997. Pg. 1). These
images from words in the news paper are followed by detailed descriptions of the event
picturing the supposed injustice against the youth. According to my research, two
articles from the Utah State University Statesman presents the case of both parties, but in
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addition offers significant and supportive statements in defense of the security guards.
One article tells: "Some defend the gun-toting men claiming they had no other choice but
to detain the youth and protect themselves. Friday evening it was 30 on three. Some ask
the question, how were the men supposed to detain the youth and protect themselves
from retaliation?" (Statesman, October 13, 1997). Sympathetic comments such as this
one are important for a balanced view of the incident, and to understand that these
security guards did not chose to go into "combat" but acted in defense of themselves and
the property.
A fascinating aspect of the whole St. Anne's incident that only surfaces in the end
and appears to have been largely overlooked is the fact that Logan Canyon is a National
Forest. The land that the St. Anne's property consists of is actually government land
leased by the occupants (Herald Journal, March 11-12. 1998) [date based on public
hearing court documents; date of news paper release not available]. In this case the
whole controversy over trespassing becomes void, as we can see from subsequent
statements by the Forest Service because technically the youth never actually trespassed
in light of this information. All through the news articles covering the St. Anne's event
of 1997, there was only incidental mention of the U.S. Forest Service and the rules that
apply to government land. It was not until the St. Anne defendants accepted a plea
bargain on bringing an end to the trial that this issue really surfaced and played any
significant part. The Herald Journal newspaper article [date of issue not available,
however public hearing court documents are dated March 11-12, 1998 which indicates
the approximate issue of the article in the news paper] informs us that the St. Anne
defendants accepted a plea bargain, admitting guilt of assault, and consequently receiving
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reduced charges. Quoted in this article are the words of a U.S. Forest Service official
Chip Sibbemsen who said that: "he himself had removed 'no trespassing' signs at St.
Anne's, as well as from other cabins permitted as summer homes in Logan Canyon over
the years." Then Mr. Sibbernsen continues: "The permit holders at St. Anne's have
permission for a gate ... but not for the razor wire and signs that give the entrance to the
retreat a prison camp appearance. That's because the land is still public land ... not
private property" (Herald Journal, March 11-12. 1998) [approximate date based on court
documents]. The article concludes: "Basically, while permit holders have the right to
keep people out of their cabins, they can't keep people from walking through on
surrounding land. That's why the Cache County Attorney's Office dropped criminal
trespassing charges against all 38 youths captured and held at gun point by the retreat's
caretaker. ... " This in the end appears to resolve the issue of trespassing charges-but
also further complicates the question of "property ownership" and the limited power
allowed residents to defend property from invaders. What seems incredible is the fact
that it took several months for anyone to realize this fact when that should have been
obvious to law enforcement and the legal profession from the very beginning. Since this
law pertaining to public access on government land is now public knowledge, there
seems to be yet another possibility (although by chance and through a technicality) for
anyone to enter this property in the future as they wish. This may be great for the legendtripping
tradition, but this notion certainly does not help permit holders in Logan Canyon
get any relief, or hope to end future "trespass" and vandalism on "their" properties.
So what we can understand from the 1997 incident and the 1986 Halloween
article is that the St. Anne's tradition has fueled numerous debates from property rights to
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concepts of justice and customs. But the conditions under the surface for this brush fire
to bum, as discussed throughout this paper, are important to remember in order to
understand the deep-rooted fundamental concerns of the citizens of this or any
community. Folklore is powerful, and given a function and purpose, proves to move
persistently through time as is evident from the legends surrounding St. Anne's. The
"dynamics of folklore" (Toelken, 55) powerfully illustrates not only how a local legend
has circulated for over 50 years, but how a new aspect is introduced into the realm of the
legend-that is this intense, not so easily ignored incident of Halloween 1997 which
appears through recent stories to have left its own mark on this vivid legend cluster.
The event surrounding the legend-tripping trespassers on Halloween 1997 at St.
Anne's may be viewed in terms of property rights, or a fundamental civil right to carry on
a local belief, a long standing custom-tradition, or a rite of passage. It can also be studied
as local rhetoric involving a "brush fire incident" (Grant Davie, 1). Religion and gender
appears to be a dominant factor in the complex cultural issues presented through the
legends and the legend-trips through its participants. It illustrates that the themes
discussed in this paper, and the stories it evolves around, are still vital issues to the
community at large and dramatize concerns, fears, and anxieties still present in the
undercurrent of this community. The Mormon religion is not just a religion, b~t a way of
life; it becomes clear from this and examples given in this paper, that religion plays a
central role in directing fundamental concerns such as gender roles, and fear ofthe other.
This legend will remain a vivid part of narrative tradition-as long as there is a function,
and purpose-to entertain narrator, audience, and legend-trippers ofthis local culture, as
other legends will elsewhere. Cultural issues and concerns will continue to surface in
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oral tradition and reflected and dramatized in the stories they tell; because-"Ifit weren't
important-they wouldn't keep doing it" (Toelken, personal communication).
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Works Cited
Browning, Dianne. Personal communication, March 1998.
Dundes, Allen. 1991. The Blood Libel Legend: A Casebook in Anti-Semitic Folklore.
Madison. The University of Wisconsin Press.
1997. From Game to War and other Psychoanalytic Essays on Folklore, pp. 11,
110-111. Lexington. The University Press of Kentucky.
Ellis, Bill. 1991 . Legend-Trips and Satanism: Adolescents' Ostensive Traditions as
'Cult ' Activity, pp. 279-295. The Satanism Scare. New York. de GruyterPress.
Fife Folklore Archives. Various traditional legend versions ofSt. Anne's Retreat.
Grant Davie, Keith. Civic Brushfires: The Rhetoric of Local Community Debates.
March 8, 2000 unpublished paper.
Hatch, Anne. Personal communication, March 1998.
Herald Journal. October 14, 1997. Pg. 3; October 15, 1997. Pg. 16; October 12, 1997.
Pg. 1; October 26,1986. [page number unavailable]; March 11-12 [approximate
date based on court documents from a preliminary hearing on March 11-12
recorded July 8, 1998].
Logan High School Survey. Results from survey April 2000 that produced 25 examples
total. Eleven of a traditional legend version and fourteen trespass versionsrepresenting
stories of the Halloween trespassing incident at St. Anne's Retreat in
1997. In this survey, students were asked to recollect any version of the St.
Anne's legend and to write it down.
Hufford, David J. The Terror That comes in the Night. Philadelphia: University of
Pennsylvania Press, 1982.
Salt Lake Tribune. October 14, 1997.
Statesman (Utah State University). October 13, 1997.
Thomas, Jeannie. 1991. Hecate in Habit: Gender, Religion, and Legend. Northwest
Folklore. Vol. 9: 14-27.
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Toelken, Barre. 1996. The Dynamics of Folklore. Logan, Utah. Utah State University
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Personal Communication, April 1998.
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Hecate in Logan Canyon: Origin, Belief, and Contemporary Oral Tradition
Local legends about a "Witch Hecate" primarily surface around the Spring
Hollow-Guinevah campgrounds three miles up Logan canyon. This particular area is
frequented by local Mormon youth groups (primarily girls camp) and boy scouts, where
many of these legends emerge and thrive as ghost stories told at various camps. A
parallel legend (in which Hecate appears also) about St. Anne's Retreat also depicts
Hecate, and is based on the former Catholic Retreat referred to as St. Anne's Retreat
located eight miles from Logan. This property came into the possession of the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City in the early1940s and was used as a retreat and a
vacation place for the Sisters of the Holy Cross (Salt Lake Tribune, October 14, 1997.
D3). Due to the frequent visits oflegend-tripping1 trespassers and vandals, the sisters
stopped coming to the retreat (Anne Hatch, personal communication) and the property
was subsequently sold (Herald Journal, October 15, 1997. Pg. 16).
In this paper I will explore the origin and history of Hecate by discussing the
ancient Goddess worship, to subsequently gain an understanding of Hecate as an ancient
underworld divinity, and the connection, if any, of the local Hecate legend character to
the ancient Goddess Hecate from history and mythology. On this journey we should
reach a broader understanding of Hecate and her performance in local legend as a
bewitched nun. An analysis and discussion of hypothetical interpretations, meanings,
functions, and symbolism-will follow. Before beginning these areas of discussion it is
necessary to introduce the reader to samples of the "Witch Hecate" legend to allow an
1 Legend-tripping is a tenn that Linda Degh, William Ellis, and others use in describing the practice of
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insight into the main core of this paper topic-the legends. [All stories and citations in
this paper are quoted verbatim].
1. Witch Heketa
The story goes that an old woman lives somewhere up Logan Canyon.
She is supposed to be a witch. Her name is Heketa. It is said that she has
seven white dobermans which can become invisible at will. A local boy
and girl supposedly went up to her place one night to see if they could see
anything. They say they were sitting in the car when suddenly the
windows fogged up from the outside. They heard dogs sniffing around the
car and what sounded like a person breathing. A hand rubbed away some
of the moisture like a person breathing. A hand rubbed away some of the
moisture on the passanger window by the girl and an old womans face
looked in. The girl went into a sort of trance and floated up off the seat a
few inches. The boy got the car started and drove home quickly where his
father, who was a Mormon bishop, gave the girl a blessing and she
snapped out of the trance. The boy drove back up there the next day and
says that there were seven dog collars on the ground (Fife Folklore
Archives, L2.3.1.15.8).
2. Heckada
If you go up Logan Canyon to 3rd dam and cross the bridge into the Spring
Hollow area or go to the Quarry up Providence Canyon, you can summon
the Devil's wife, her name is Heckada. My friend's brother's girlfriend's
brother had a friend that did this very thing. He and a date went up to the
Spring Hollow area, for some romancing. After being turned down he got
out of the car and yelled the phrase" Heckada, come get me". This was the
saying that you needed to say to get Heckada to appear. After saying it a
few times he returned to the car. His date was scared, which was his main
intention for doing the little prank, or so he thought. After a few minutes
of sitting there they began to hear dogs barking, they looked up and saw a
green glowing chariot pulled by six wolves, and a mistress with long
flowing hair at the reins. At about the same instance the doors locked, the
boy and date was pretty scared by this time so the boy tried to get the car
started but it seemed like the battery was dead, nothing would start or no
lights would come on. By this time the wolves were on the hood of the
car clawing at it and grOWling. The mistress stared into the boy's eyes and
said "1 have come for you". The boy freaked out and didn't know what to
do, the girl was screaming and crying. Then the boy remembered to say
"In the name of Jesus Christ 1 command you to leave", at the very instance
of saying that, the mistress and her wolves disappeared. The boy then
started the car and returned to Logan. Upon returning to his date's house
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Folklore Archives, L2.3.1.15.9).
3. The Old Nun
I once heard of some girls that went to girls scout camp up Logan canyon,
a few years ago. There was about 12 girls plus a few leaders. The girls
were between the ages of twelve and fifteen. They were sitting around the
campfire telling scary stories, one of which was the "Old Nun" story. The
story is about an old nun that died very angry that she had lost her youth
and beauty. She had resided at the Nunnery, also in Logan canyon.
Before she died, the nun would walk past the girls scout camp and long for
the days of her youth. She became so obsessed by this idea that she
decided by drinking the youths blood she would again be young. Well,
the kids of the camp tried to laugh off their fear not wanting to admit to
anyone that they really were scared. The group broke up after the story
telling finished and went their separate ways. The leaders of the camp
became increasingly concerned as the girls began to disappear one by one.
They called and hunted for the missing girls not getting any response at
all. A couple of girls from the camp had gone on a walk together.
Suddenly they came running back into the camp screaming and shaking
terribly. The girls reported seeing an old lady dressed as a nun, with an ax
and blood dripping from her face walking near the camp. The next day
when the sun came up six of the twelve girls were found murdered around
camp (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.1.12.1.28).
4. Hekedah-the lady ofthird dam [told by scoutmaster]
Once I decided to see if the stories about Hekedah were true. I grabbed a
friend and we grabbed two girls and set out for third dam. As is the
custom, we put the keys to the truck on the hood and then yelled for
Hekedah to come. After waiting a long time, I saw a green light forming
in the middle of the lake. I thought I was imagining things at first. It soon
formed into a face of a lady all pale and green and she was crying. We
grabbed her car keys from the hood, but waited to see what would happen.
It wasn't long until a hand and arm appeared and started motioning us to
come. (the teller motions with his hand and finger) She kept getting bigger
and bigger and was soon a full size lady coming closer and closer to our
truck. We put the keys in the ignition and tried to start the truck but
nothing happened. Finally, when she was only 4 or 5 feet away, the truck
started and we tore out of that place like crazy. [the collector continues to
provide context by saying the following] (The teller then fills in the events
in Hekedahs life which explain why she haunts the lake) Hekedah was a
recluse woman, who lived in a little cabin above third dam. She had been
quite wealthy in her life and had her money with her in the cabin. One
night, two men broke in and killed her so that they could steal the money.
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The two men were never seen or heard of again. It is said that if you look
up on the ridge on a night of the full moon, you can see the sillouette of
Hekedah , with ax in hand, chasing two men (Fife Folklore Archives,
L2.3.1.15.6).
The above mentioned legends are samples of the Hecate legend that will
be scrutinized in this study. But first it is necessary to introduce several
complementary themes that surface in the parallel legend of St. Anne's Retreat,
thus making it necessary to present sample versions of Hecate's role in the St.
Anne's legends of Logan Canyon as a witch and a crazed nun. Themes from
both "Witch Hecate" and "St. Anne's Retreat" will be discussed below.
5. Barking Dogs
Lucy and her friend were driving around the canyon one fall night when it
was really nice and warm, and they decided to go to St. Anne's. There
were three guys who wanted to go, and three girls who didn't want to go.
Since the boys were driving, they went. They parked the car by the
highway, and began walking up the dirt road. On the way, one of the guys
said "Do you know what happened up here?", and he proceeded to tell
story of the nuns. "The nuns used to come up here in the wintertime and
stay. One spring the nuns didn't come back. The townspeople went up to
investigate, and they found the bodies of the nuns floating in the
swimming pool, because they had been raped and murdered. They also
found mother superior's black dogs chained up and starved to death in a
shack." The guy telling the story suggested that they go look in the
swimming pool. While they were looking at it, one of the guys yelled,
"I'm scared," and ran to the car as fast as he could. Everyone else
followed him, but the girls were slower. As they were running down the
mountain, they heard dogs barking and chains dragging on the ground, and
they thought the dogs were chasing them. The dogs were howling and
looking for the nuns. The girls were crying because they were so scared
(Fife Folklore Archives, ColI. 8. USU. 84-050. Item 10).
6. Saint Ann's Retreat
A long time ago there used to be a nunnery at Saint Anne's. One of the
nuns got pregnant by a young priest. She hid the fact that she was
pregnant for a long time. When she had the baby she was told she had to
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leave the nunnery. She was grieved at what had happened and went out
and drowned her baby in the swimming pool, then hung herself. Her spirit
haunts the place in the form of a dog. Sometimes people can hear dogs
howling at Saint Ann's. Nobody has ever seen the dogs (Fife Folklore
Archives, L2.1.12.1.37).
These legend illustrated above are examples presenting Hecate as a bewitched
nun and includes several themes and symbolism that will be scrutinized further below.
With this introduction, the mythological and historical aspects can now be explored. A
brief over view of the origin of the Goddess follows.
In Greek mythology, Hecate depicts an underworld third dimension of a triple
Goddess representing Persephone, Demeter, and Hecate. Hecate appears as the crone
part of this triple divinity; Hecate, the crone is also represented in the two local legend
types in Logan Canyon. To extract meaning, and to gain a broader understanding of
these legends, it is necessary to start from the beginning-to a time when the Goddess
Hecate played a powerful and important role in many parts of the world. This process
should elucidate the connection, if any, of the function of the local Hecate legend
character to the ancient Goddess Hecate from history and mythology.
In ancient times, dating back as far as 25,000 years BC.until shortly after the
advent of Christianity, in many parts of the world-God was a Woman. This supreme
deity, known by many names-according to region, was revered and worshipped not only
for her fertility and procreation, but she represented wisdom, universal order (Stone,
preface) [page number unavailable], knowledge, and capability of holding vital advisory
positions. Goddess worship thrived from Neolithic periods 7000 BC., alongside of the
Judeo-Christian religions and peoples who worshipped male gods until classical periods
of Greece and Rome until around 500 A.D when any trace of this so called idolatry
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worship of the pagans was effectively, and nearly completely destroyed. (Stone, 20;
preface) [preface page number unavailable].
"She [Hecate] bestows wealth and success, good luck and advice, is powerful in
earth, sea, and heaven ... By a transference common in mythology, she became as a
goddess of plenty, an infernal deity, terrible in aspects and often snakelike, the queen of
ghosts and mistress of black magic, the keeper of the keys of Hades" (Leach, 487).
Hecate is said to have had power and influence over earth, heaven, and sea. "She
gave her votaries success in battle, in the law courts and political assembly, and in
athletics. Later she came to be associated with the darker side of life, with the
underworld and night, with ghosts ... Sometimes she herself was represented as an old
hag with snakes entwined in her hair, or she might assume the form of a mare or dog, or,
attended by hell-hounds, she haunted the cross-roads" (Pike, 174). The descriptions
offered to us by Pike and Leach effectively provides an understanding of the preChristian
image of the Goddess-and how hypothetically, simultaneous with the onset of
Christianity, the role reversal of women into submission under a patriarchal system
flourished. Goddess and thus Woman, is consequently seen in a subversive lightperhaps
reflecting her new role and demoted status. Although the change away from
Goddess worship appears to have taken place over thousands of years, Stone speaks of
invasions of Northern tribes which apparently had immediate, harsh effects upon the
Goddess religion by eradicating matriarchal-matrilineal societies to the new
establishment of male dominated societies. The power of the Goddess societies became
eradicated upon the solidification of a patriarchal system; [and] "only then was she
fragmented, and reduced ... " (Sjoo & Moor, 183).
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• copulation and procreation and therefore worshipped the Goddess as the sole creator of
life, and the only one who could create her own kind. But with the aggressive invasions
of societies with male deities this matriarchal structure changed. The power of myth to
• create perception and belief among man and woman-kind can be seen from the Adam and
Eve myth. Stone talks about this being a dramatic and powerful turning point in the
• manifestation and eradication of the Goddess. The Adam and Eve myth accomplished
this by blaming Eve for the fall of mankind. Her punishment was to suffer pain in
childbirth, and to serve man as a helpmate and inferior in status (Stone, foreword). This
• is something to keep in mind as we note gender issues in these legends.
The image of Hecate in lighter times shows that the Goddess was revered for her
contributions to the world; this was before she was demoted in status and seen as dark • and sinister. After a mythological transference as mentioned by Leach-Hecate takes on
a sinister-darker image. Hecate is held as moon Goddess, Queen of Ghosts, and deity of
• the Crossroads (Sjoo & Moor, 183). After the entry to darker times "Hecate was
[became] the destroyer; newborn children and animals were sacrificed to her" (Sjoo &
Moor, 183). These are things this triple goddess has represented through time. With this
• in mind, we can examine some classic themes existent in the local legends.
Among some of the themes evident in both the historically documented mythical
• origins from darker times of Hecate that are evident in "Witch Hecate" and the parallel
"St. Anne's legends are:
1. The triple dimension concept.
2. Hecate's Suppers - Hecate at the Cross Roads. • 3. Hecate and the keys of Hades-keys as part of ritual in legend-tripping.
4. Sacrifice of newborns-in reference to the swimming pool as an altar.
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5. Hecate as Moon Goddess and Queen of Ghosts.
6. Presence and symbolism of torch.
7. Various themes connecting function and local religious culture i.e. presence of
local dominant religion in legends as the righteous prevailing over evil.
The Triple Dimension Concept
There are several theories of the triple dimension concept of Hecate. One is that it
represents "the three faces of woman: maiden, mother, and crone" (Thomas, 22).
Theories ofthe triple head however, is that the triple head represents earth-heaven-sea
(Pike, 173); past-present-future; three formed because of association with the moon:
crescent-full-waning (Barnard, 85); yet another theory suggests a three headed dimension
has to do with the need for Hecate (at the Crossroads, discussed below) to look down in
three directions.
In local legend versions Hecate appears to represent the triple dimension of what
Thomas refers to as the "three faces of woman" by the following: "The legend versions
depict woman as nun-a virginal maiden (Persephone); woman as a pregnant nun who
becomes a mother (Demeter); a woman as a death threatening witch (Hecate) (Thomas,
22)." This can be seen in the following legend versions:
First, the image of nuns being raped as was the virginal maiden Persephone raped
by Hades. "The nuns used to come up here in the wintertime and stay. One spring the
nuns didn't come back. The townspeople went up to investigate, and they found the
bodies of the nuns floating in the swimming pool, because they had been raped and
murdered" (Fife Folklore Archives, ColI. 8. USU. 84-050. Item 5).
Second, the ancient notion of nuns and priests engaging in sexual acts; and
consequently depicted in some of these legends as pregnant and having babies. This
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image may represent Demeter- mother of Persephone evident by the following quote:
"One of the nuns got pregnant by a young priest" (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.1.12.1.37).
Third, a depiction of Hecate-a woman as a witch or sometimes referred to as the
devil's wife: "The story goes that an old woman lives somewhere up Logan Canyon.
She is suppose to be a witch" (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.3.1.15.8). Another version
similarly states: "If you go up Logan Canyon to 3Td dam ... you can summon the Devil's
wife, her name is Heckada" (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.3.1.15.9).
Hecate's Suppers - Hecate at the Cross Roads
The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics explains that crossroads are regarded as
the dwelling place of evil spirits and ghosts creating bad luck and danger. Hecate is the
Divinity of Crossroads (E.R.E. Vol. II, 330b). This is a place where at a new or full
moon, rich people would worship her by leaving offerings in forms of food referred to as
"suppers of Hecate." The crossroads was also a symbolic place for the sacrifices of
newborn babies. Myth tells how "Hecate, as newly born infant, was exposed at a crossway,
but rescued and brought up by shepherds. This probably points to an actual custom
of exposure at cross-roads ... (E.R.E.Voi. II 333b). Dogs were also a form of sacrifice at
the cross-roads.
St. Anne's may by a symbol of crossroads in terms of culture, religion and
gender. A ghostly nun, may be a symbol of a strange outside culture and religion in
which females at the retreat are perceived by locals to be dominant. The nuns in the
legends take on aspects of Hecate-and she haunts this metaphoric crossroads. Hecate is
known as the mother of ghosts (Leeming, 152); just as the nun becomes mother, she
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(Hecate-the nun) in a twisted way is also mother of dead sacrificed newborn babies who
represent ghosts in the legends, and their spirits haunt the place. Another interesting
theme is the presence of dogs in the legends and the historical significance in reference to
"Hecate's Suppers." It explains that the poor and dogs would often consume the food
offerings left at crossroads-hence the presence of dogs around the local legendary
Hecate. Dogs are also told to be a form of sacrifice left at the crossroads (E.R.E., Vol.
VI. 566b; Vol. II 333b; [Vol. Vill. 333b D. In tradition, dogs are often associated with
the devil (Toelken, personal communication) which may explain their presence in
Hecate's darker times.
Hecate and the keys of Hades: keys as part of ritual in legend-tripping
Keys are sometimes an important symbol in "Witch Hecate" and "St. Anne's"
legends. From a mythological perspective, Hecate is known to hold and possess the keys
of Hades. "She is even called the Lady bearing the keys of the Universe .. . " [it is
further explained that] "The significance of the keys generally signifies the power over
the regions ... (E. R. E. Vol. Vill 123a). Keys become a central point of a specific
ritual, and playa significant role in this following legend version: "This is supposed to
have happened to someone when they went up to St. Anne's. They drove their car up
there, parked it, and turned off the lights. They put their car keys on the top of the car to
bring Witch Hekeda down. A light shone on the car and the car keys disappeared. They
couldn't leave St. Anne's without their keys, and they never returned home (Fife Folklore
Archives, ColI. 8. USU collection#?! item #3 and 4)." This narrative clearly seems to
suggest that Hecate is the holder of the keys-including their keys. She is the divinity of
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the underworld who not only possesses their keys and but also has obvious powers over
this particular region (St. Anne's Retreat and the Spring Hollow area). She appears to
detennine in this story if in fact these trespassers may leave or not.
Sacrifice of newborns-in reference to the swimming pool as an altar
As discussed above, newborn babies are known to be a fonn of sacrifice at the
crossroads. In the local legends discussed in this paper, the illegitimate offspring ofthe
nuns is also known to be sacrificed. It can be understood as a local, modem day
metaphoric crossroads; and on this site, newborn babies are also said to be murdered
(sacrificed)-namely in the legendary swimming pool at St. Anne's Retreat. The
swimming pool, with its frequent reference to murder in the legends, may serve as a
symbolic altar in depicting the drowning babies and nuns. The ancient custom and ritual
at doorways functioned to avert evil, and signified a place where offerings and sacrifices
were made (altars often being placed right inside doorways). One can hypothesize that
the intruders at St. Anne's in fact also came through a doorway (symbolic door, i.e. gate)
to enter the 8t. Anne's property-to become a potential sacrifice as haunted victims of a
ghostly nun.
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Hecate as Moon Goddess and Queen of Ghosts
Hecate is considered by many to be primarily the moon Goddess "and one who
forecasts perilous, unwelcome change" in the night [handout, Jeannie]. Hecate, the deity
of crossroads-haunts the crossroads with her triple head staring in three directions to
keep watch over evil powers. It is at new moon or full moon that offerings are given to
Hecate at the crossroads. "Hecate is Mother of Ghosts, Queen of the underworld, of
death" (Leeming, 152).
In the legends it is common to witness supernatural phenomena at a full moon.
One such account is: "Near Saint Anne's retreat up in Logan Canyon there is a small
canyon. It is said if you go to this canyon around midnight, with the moon full in the
night sky, and you call the name Heckata three times she will appear" (Fife Folklore
Archives, L2.1.12.1.48).
Presence and Symbolism ofthe Torch
The torch in mythic terms symbolizes Demeter's search for her daughter
Persephone after Hades raped her and took her to the underworld. Demeter searches
desperately for her daughter with "lighted torches in her hands" (E.R.E. Vol. XU, 390a).
Perhaps, in accordance with some legend versions, Hecate in the form of a bewitched
nun, is also told to carry a torch; but rather than a torch in these examples, she uses a
lantern. No longer is Hecate (or the bewitched nun) looking for her daughter
Persephone, but she may be wandering the grounds of St. Anne's or Spring Hollow
searching for her murdered baby. The following examples illustrate such stories. First,
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an apparent torch, second, a lantern: (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.3.1.15.4; ColI. 8. usu.
The Lynching Mob item#8).
Various themes connecting function and local religious culture i.e. presence of local
dominant religion in legends as the righteous prevailing over evil
There exists a definite local religious flavor across many of the local Hecate
legend versions depicting the more favorable dominant local religious culture over the
strange, perhaps threatening outside influence of the Catholics. This is evident in legend
#1 above, labeled "Witch Heketa" illustrated by the following quote:
A hand rubbed away some of the moisture on the passanger window by the
girl and an old womans face looked in. The girl went into a sort of trance
and floated up off the seat a few inches. The boy got the car started and
drove home quickly where his father, who was a Mormon bishop, gave the
girl a blessing and she snapped out of the trance [my emphasis] (Fife
Folklore Archives, L2.3.1.15.8).
Another example from legend #2 above, labeled "Heckada" tells:
The mistress stared into the boy's eyes and said "I have come for you". The
boy freaked out and didn't know what to do, the girl was screaming and
crying. Then the boy remembered to say "In the name of Jesus Christ I
command you to leave" [my emphasis] at the very instance of saying that, the
mistress and her wolves disappeared (Fife Folklore Archives, L2.3.1.15.9).
This clearly represents what Hufford refers to as "faith promoting" events or
stories (Hufford, 222). It serves to reaffirm the dominant and superior religion over the
intruding, strange outside church as represented by the presence of nuns in Logan
Canyon. It appears to symbolize that good (Mormon bishop giving blessing-and
chasing evil spirits away with "in the name of Jesus Christ") breaks the spell of the evil
abominable and apostate church as noted through Mormon doctrine (Thomas, 18; Notes
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7). Thomas continues: "Those who do go to the site are invariably frightened and end up
retreating to the safety of their own LDS culture."
Another prominent theme surfacing in the legends is that of gender. This brings
us back to the beginning of this paper-speaking ofthe Goddess and her mythological
presence in local legend and geography. It brings forth aspects of challenges from a
matriarchal and matrilineal local codes of living stemming from a patriarchal culture,
based on religious beliefs dating back to the Old Testament. It is portrayed and
manifested through the mythological Goddess Hecate, the power of the Goddess and
Woman-challenging the notion of the patriarchal system; it confronts, and perhaps
challenges local beliefs and attitudes in a culture dominated by men. In accordance with
local belief-the female in the legends appear to take on a submissive and subservient
role. As evident in the example in the previous paragraph, the male is dominant and has
the power to avert evil. From this it is important to note that the Mormon bishop is male,
while the Goddess Hecate is female. Stone describes the Paradise myth as "still the
bedrock of fundamental theological arguments that women are divinely ordained to be
subservient." This idea seems clear when looking at Mormon doctrine, and the status and
role of the woman in local culture and legend; while the challenge to retain a status quo
in a world that is in constant challenge of the patriarchal system and its dominance over
women. It is the male who in many ofthe stories initiates the courtship ritual of visiting
these sites haunted with the presence of the (female) supernatural. He appears as
dominant male, aggressor, and savior; he is also capable through the power of the
Mormon priesthood to revert evil, as mentioned in version #2 above. The male initiates
courtship; the female is depicted in the legends as resisting his advances while she is
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expected to refrain from intimacy until marriage. So here her belief and moral codes are
challenged. While his advances and plans for romance goes awry, he gets angry and calls
upon the supernatural. He evidently inhibits the power to do so, as well as to make the
evil go away using religious authority, power of the priesthood (which is in present day
only given to men), and subsequently brings them both back to the safety of the Mormon
culture. Example: (Legend version #2 above; Fife Folklore Archives, L2.3.1.15.9).
Other examples of male dominance and female subordination are: "There were three
guys who wanted to go, and three girls who didn't want to go. Since the boys were
driving, they went" [my emphasis]. Once there, one ofthe boys proceeds to tell the St.
Anne's legend. Later in the story, it tells of everyone running back to the car-but the
girls were slower" [my emphasis] (Fife Folklore Archives, ColI. 8. USU. 84-050. Item
10). Some stories further illustrate moral transgressions as being punishable by rape and
death (Fife Folklore Archives, L 5,11,12). This concept also has ancient origins. As the
male deities took prominence in the Goddess religions [time period] or as illustrated in
ancient Hebrew societies (Stone, 56) the moral codes so dictated that punishment for
moral transgressions was to be put to death. The ancient belief and custom went as far as
to punish a woman who had been raped with death. The notion of moral transgressions
punishable by death as noted through ancient belief and custom, and as depicted in local
legend is evident in the depiction of the female-a nun-who becomes the model for
unacceptable moral behavior and consequently becomes raped and murdered for her
choices. This possible representation may serve as a powerful image to members
participating in this local courtship ritual and serves as a reminder to follow principles as
set forth by the indigenous religion.
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The mythological and historical significance of the Goddess religion in relation to
the presence of the mythological Goddess appearing as a nun in local legends has been
presented and illustrates several themes drawn somehow from mythology of GoddessHecate.
The presence of these classical themes incorporated in the modern legends may
remain a curious aspect, but as a whole, all of the stories seek to exemplify certain
aspects of the local people's attitudes and beliefs. This is illustrated in what may
constitute their fears and concerns. One of these has to do with gender. Underlying
anxieties are displayed through these legends and may stem from the systematic changes
in the roles of women through time. To understand the present day presence of the
Goddess Hecate in local legend, it is important to understand that gender is still an vital
and combative issue-particularly in the local religious culture that may resist the
worldly changes around them in order to maintain their religious convictions, including
the role and status of woman in this culture. Somehow, Hecate an ancient mythical
underworld divinity-manages to creep into modern day local legends; the resiliency of
this myth thousands of years old functions today to in ways described above. The triple
Goddess Hecate performs as a witch and a nun in both legend versions; and in a sense,
she is still worshipped today as thrill seekers tempt their fate by making visits to her
habitat in the metaphoric crossroads of Logan Canyon.
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Barnard, Mary. 1967. The Mythmakers. New York. H. Wolff.
Fife Folklore Archives. Various traditional legend versions ofSt. Anne's Retreat and
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Hastings, James, editor. 1980. Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics. Edinburgh,
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Hatch, Anne. Personal communication April 1998.
Herald Journal. October 15, 1997. Opinion section.
Hufford, David 1. The Terror That comes in the Night. Philadelphia: University of
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Leach, Maria, editor. 1949. Funk & Wagnalls Standard Dictionary of Folklore
Mythology and Legend. New York. Funk and Wagnalls Company
Leeming, David; Paige, Jake. 1994. Goddess: Myths of the Female Divine. New York.
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Pike, Royston. 1958. Encyclopedia of Religion and Religions. New York. Meridian
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Salt Lake Tribune. October 14, 1997. D3.
Sjoo, Monica; Mor, Barbara. 1975. The Great Cosmic Mother. San Fracisco. Harper &
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Stone, Merlin. 1976. When God was a Woman. New York. The Dial Press.
Thomas, Jeannie. 1991. Hecate in Habit: Gender, Religion, and Legend. Northwest
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Toelken, Barre. Personal Communication, April 1998; May 2000.
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Folklore fieldwork assignment presenting several accounts of Witch Hecate in Logan Canyon.
LEGENDS OF LOGAN CANYON
Tammy Durtschi
Utah State University
Fife Folklore Archives
Logan, Utah
Honors 336
Instructor: Wilson
Winter 1981
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LEGENDS OF LOGAN CANYON
Tannny Durtschi
Logan, Utah 84321
Utah State University
Mormon Folklore
Honors 336
Winter Quarter, 1981
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Cover Essay ......................................... o •••••••••• ii
Autobiographical Sketch •..•....•....•.••.•...••.••••..•...••••.• v
List of Informants ............................................. vi
Witch Hecida
Title Informant Item
How Witch Hecida Came Into Being ..• Lutz .•• ltem #l •..• Page # 1
Witch Hecida •.........•.•.....••.• Siler •.. Item #2 ••.• Page # 2
Witch Hecida ..•..................• Gates .•. Item 11=3 .... Page # 3
Personal Experience with Hecida .•.• Lutz .•• ltem #4 •... Page # 4
Saint Anne's Retreat
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St. Anne's Retreat .•••..•....•....• Lutz .•• ltem # 5 ... Page
St. Anne's Retreat .•.•....•..••... Siler .•• Item 11= 6 .•• Page
St. Anne's Retreat ••.•..•.•......• Hugie ... Item 11= 7 ••• Page
St. Anne's Retreat •.•..•.•......•• Gates •.. ltem # 8 ... Page
Personal Experience at St. Anne's.Hugie ••• ltem # 9 .•. Page
The "Real" Story of St. Anne's ..... Lutz ••• Item 11=10 ••• Page
Miscellaneous Legends <"
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11= 9
11=10
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A fresence in Logan Canyon .•.•..•• Siler .•• ltem #ll ••• Page #15
The Man of Logan Canyon ••.......••. Ward •.• ltem #12 ••. Page #16
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COVER ESSAY
This has been an intriguing project to undertake. People's
reaction when asked to be interviewed varied from one extreme
to another. The great diversity in the version of the story from
one person to the next was remarkable. In the following essay
I will attempt to explain these statements as well as make some
additional assertions.
The topic I chose for my paper is the Ledgends of Logan Canyon.
I concentrate most on Saint Anne's Retreat and Witch Hecida.
Items 11 and 12 are just miscellaneous stories about Logan Canyon
that I chose to include because I wanted to illustrate that
there are many, many other ledgends about Logan Canyon other than
the two main stories of St. Anne's and Witch Hecida.
St. Anne's is located about five miles up Logan Canyon.
There are many people who are sure that they know the "real"
story about what happened there, but they all disagree about it.
One of the "real" stories that I heard indicated that nuns were
never at St. Anne's Retreat. (Item 1fl0) Another "real" story
said that a family built ~he retreat, but then they decided to
donate it to Utah State University. The University was too slow
in accepting it so the family decided to donate it to the
Catholic church.
I was only able to obtain a very limited amount of facts
about St. Anne's. It was built sometime during the 1930's and it
eventually burned down. The ledgends are built around the demise
of the retreat. The stories range from a hermit coming down out
of the hills and killing all of the nuns to a story where it is
actually the Mother Superior who does the killing. There is alot
of diversity in who was really killed. One story states that
all of the nuns got killed, whereas another story tells of
babies that belonged to the nuns were drown in the swimming
pool.
The most detailed description of St. Anne's is found in
Item #9. All that is now left of the original retreat is a
swimming pool and the cement foundation of the original building.
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The only logical reason that I can come up with as to why
all of these stories began circulating is because up until
the 1930's there were virtually no other churches in Logan.
besides the Mormon church. When the Catholic church began
prospering in the valley the Mormons resented it. When St. Anne's
actually did burn the locals probably seized upon this as a chance
to exploit the Catholic church and point out that this would
never have happened if the Catholics were not wicked.
Once it was a generally accepted fact that something Rad been
going on at St. Anne's that shouldn't have been going on, the
stories probably had free rein of the imagination. Stories
began circulating that one of the nuns had gone crazy and killed
her sister nuns. Other stories say that a 15 year old girl that
the nuns had been taking care of had killed the nuns.
There are two details that are included in most versions
of the St. Anne's story. One detail is that there are generally
dogs somewhere in the story. No one seems to know where the
dogs came from, but they are there all the same. In most of the
stories the do.gs play the part of being a guardian over the
retreat.
The second detail is the ~wimming pool. The swimming pool
is always used as a means by which someone is murdered. Someone
is thrown in the pool by someone else and drown. The swimming
pool is still there today and is the factor that convinces alot
of people of the validity of these stories.
Witch Hecida stories offer even a greater variation between
versions than doe ,; the St. Anne's stories. In each story Witch
Hecida is in an entirely different location.
up at Third Dam in Logan Canyon. (Item #1).
One story puts her
Another ledgend
says that Witch Hecida resides in a cave in Logan Canyon. (Item #20
Still another story says that Witch Hecida comes down at Spring
Hollow in the form of fog. (Item #3). But the most amazing
story is that Witch Hecida came from St. Anne's Retreat. She
was supposedly the Mother Superior that murdered all of the babies,
and her original name was Saint Hecida •
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Some of the people I talked with were anxious to share
their stories with me. A couple of people I talked to told me
that they knew the stories of St. Anne's and Witch Hecida, but
they refused when I told them that their stories were going to
be included in the Archives. Generally once people started
talking and began telling me their stories they loosened up and
would tell me anything I wanted to know.
I recorded my interviews with my informants and then I
typed them up exact~y as they were told. I would ask my informants
questions to help draw similarities between the different versions.
Theyonly editing of their original versdions was by eliminating
repeated segments of their tales and dropping the unnecessary lIand ll s i
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AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH
I was born in Logan, Utah and I have lived here in Cache
V~lley all of my life. I attended Sky View High School and Lam
now a Freshman at Utah State University.
My father is an Economics professor here at USU.
a housewife and has dedicated her life to her family.
My mother is
My parents
are the best anyone could ever ask for. I am the sixth out of
seven children in our family . We have very strong family ties.
I wouldn't trade my family experiences for anything.
The reason I chose to do my paper on the legends of Logan
Canyon is because I have lived here my entire life and I h.have
heard these stories ever since I can remember. I was interested
to see what other people thought of these stories and I was
interested in collecting different versions of the same story.
I am fascinated by people, and I enjoy doing projects that
allow me to gain a better understanding of people and why they
function like they do. This paper has given me an opportunity
to get some insights that I otherwise would never have been able
to gain.
My hobbies include reading, being with and observing people,
and sports. I could watch professional football forever! I also
like participating in almost all sports.
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Hugie, Bryon
Lutz, Chris
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Ward, Bruce
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LIST OF INFORMANTS
Larry was raised in Logan and attended Logan High.
He is presently a Senior at Utah State University
and is majoring in Pre-Med. He is the presently
the president of the Honors Program at U.S.U.
He has served an LDS mission. He contributed
items 3 and 8 in this paper.
Bryon is a Freshman at Utah State University. He
was born in Logan and was raised in College Ward,
Utah. He is currently waiting for his mission call.
Bryon does not play with ouija boards since his
experiences at St. Anne's. He took those events
seriously and will have nothing to do with ouija
boards or St. Anne's Retreat now. He contributed
items 7 and 9.
Chris was the most anxious to tell her stories of
the people I interviewed. She is a Freshman at
Utah State University. She is a non-mormon, but
is ver~ knowledgable about our culture. She
was by far the most cofrorful story teller I talked
to. Items 1,4,5 and 10 belong to her.
Jon is a Pre-Med major at Utah State University.
He has lived in Cache Valley allt of his life.
He is preparing for an LDS mission and will leave
in June of this year. He enjoys skiing and playing
racquetball. He contributed items 2,6and 11.
Bruce was raised in southeastern Idaho. He was
active in the Boy Scout program in Cache Valley.
He served a mission in Alabama. He is currentJy
a student at Utah State University studying Biology.
His hobbies include snow skiing and reading. He
contributed items number 12.
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Chris Lutz
"How Witch Hecida Came Into Being"
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item iH
Chris told me this story when I asked her if she knew anything
about Witch Hecida. Chris honestly believes that there is such
a person as Witch Hecida. Her personal experience with Hecida
is recounted in a later item.
There was a camping excersion. She (Witch Hecida) was just
a young girl and they all went up the canyon partying that night.
up at Third Dam in Logan Canyon. They were all partying around
and evidently one of the guys got rough and they took advantage
of her and she was really upsec and really mad. She went after
them and they were all drunk and laughing at her and she said,
"don't do that" and she tried to fight them off, but they jumped
her. She felt really bad, and they were all still so drunk and
afterwards she was just kinda mad at them. She went after them
with a club and they were all laughing and they pushed her into
the water. She was drunk in the place and she drown, a young
girl drown. The guys didn't know what to do. If they went back
to town and were asked how she drown, well, what could they say?
So she died there and thats how come she is in the water
and she comes across like a ball. They call her a witch because
anybody caught drinking or messing around up at Third Dam s~e
will come and get.
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Jon Siler
"Witch Hecida"
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item in
Jon didn't know the people that actually had this experience. He
heard this story from some of his friends when they were driving
up Logan Canyon one night.
This was told to me by a friend. It didn't happen to him,
but he heard it from somebody else who heard it from somebody els~.
Witch Hecida is suppose to be in Logan Canyon. She is suppose
to have seven white mice and seven dogs. These guys were going
through the cave one time and they smelled something and then they
started to hear dogs barking and they thought that was really
strange to hear dogs barking and they thought maybe a dog went in
there and got caught or something. They kept going in there and
they came to a big pit. They looked down there and sawall these
mice and it ended up that there was seven mice and then they
saw some dogs After they saw the dogs they left because they started
getting really scared because they knew about Witch Hecida.
They left and never went back.
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Larry Gates
"Witch Hecida"
February, 1981
UEU Campus
Item if3
Larry couldn't remember the story very well. It had been a long
time since he had heard it. The following is the story of Witch
Hecida that he recall hearing from some of his friends in high
school. He said that his friends didn't actually believe in
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All I know is that a friend of mine, Steve Peterson, who
is now in the Theatre Department used to go up there and do a
little routine. I'm not even sure what it was, I was never with
them. They would go up and call down Hecida in Spring Hollow
and do a little chant and they had a little ritual they would do.
Then the fog was suppose to come down, rolling down the mountain.
You could see this blanket of white fog. It would move down
through the trees toward the hollow. As far as I know they didn't
ever stay around there to see what happened when the fog got down.
I was never there when they did it.
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USU Ca!llpus
Chris Lutz Item #4
"PersonaUExperience with Witch Hecida"
Chris swears to this day that she saw Witch Hecida. She refuses
to go up the canyon any more and tell ghose stories. She claims
to have only been up the canyon once since her experience with
Hecida.
This is my Witch Hecida story~ this honestly happened to me.
I'm really scared about things like that and they always told
me that if you go up on Third Dam bridge in Logan Canyon and you
stand there at midnight~ turn around three times and saY'tlWithh
Hecida~ Witch Hecida~ Witch Hecida" and look over the water she
will come to you.
She'll come to you in a little golden ball~ like the good
fairy. She comes across the water in this little golden ball
and she comes to you and stands on the bridge.
I figured it all out because it scared me. But it was
nothing~ we all knew these stories. So one night~ me and my
girlfriend--I guess we were juniors--were going out on a double
date with these two guys and one guy had his brother's new 240Z.
We went to Smithfield and we went to see the Love Bug. Afterwards
we were driving into town and we said "Let's go driving up
the canyon and tell ghost stories".
So we drove up the canyon and my friend was telling us about
if you stand on the bridge and turn around three times Witch
Hecida will come to you. We turned to gon onto the bridge and I
said, "I'm scared, you guys, I just have this awful feeling"--it
scared me real bad. So we went to tu~n the car around and we
went to flip a "u" and thats a pretty big place up there, but
the car would only go half way so we were wedged between the
bridge and the road and it was just like in the Love Bug--this
sounds really stupid--I ~; said, "Oh my gosh we are going to . • . "
in the Love Bug we had just saw an hour earlier he went to flip a
"u" and he didn't quite make it and he turned into the hill and
the hill fell down on him. I said, "the hill is going to fall
down on us". We all started screaming and we hurried and backed
up and flipped around and started driving out of there as fast
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as we could. We were hauling "A", going 90 miles, no kidding. I
lobked over at the speedometer. I said, "slow down, slow down,
there is a car in front of us". It was an old beat up Falcon job.
I said, "Oh my gosh, it's Witch Hecida". The two in the back
were screamJng and laughing, kinda joking. I lOOked forward and there
in the car it looked like her hair was just glowing. It looked
like an old lady with one of those puffy hairdos. It was just
kind oa like hazy-blue, like it radiated from her head.
I said,"It's Witch Hecida, I know it, she knows that we are
here". So we started slowing down and she started slowing down.
There was just one person in the car. We were going 20 miles
and hour. 20. After going 80. So we started slowing down and it::
(her hair) seemed to grow more brilliant, just like cotton candy,
kind of fluffy and mysterious and I was just freaking out.
So we slowed down and we thought that we would just let her
go into town. She slowed down too. We were creeping along 20
miles an:~ hour. When we hit first dam we were going 5. She was
going 5 and we were going 5 miles an hour. I said, "hit it!" and
Vrooooooom •... we went right around her. We hightailed it up that
hill. She started racing us! I said, "she is trying to catch us,
she is trying to catch us." We hauled "A" into town. We were going
90 down Fourth North. We ran a red light at Fourth DNorth
cause we were so scared. She was right behind us, On Main Street
we turned left and we went into that gas station and we turned
around to watch, she was right behind us on that block, but she
never came down to Main Street. We sat there and we just shook
and shook and I said, "why didn't she come after us?" They told
me that she can't come out of the canyon. Fourth North is still
considered part of the canyon because of the slope. She cant turn
onto Main Street. She just disappeared.
To this day I swear that was Witch Hecida. I've never gone
up the canyon and told ghost stories since. I won't. I believe
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Chris Lutz
"Saint Anne's Retreat"
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item 115
Chris heard this story at her Senior class party that was held
at St Anne's Retreat which is located up Logan Canyon. She doesn't
believe this story, but she was anxious to tell it to me.
St. Anne's used to be a retreat for nuns. In the Catholic
church they believe in taking care of their welfare program.
There was this one girl who was living up there because
evidently she didn't have any parenti. The nuns were taking care
of her while an adoption was goin~ through. She was about four-teen
or fifteen years of age. ',.' ~ ';
She was a gorgeous girl, but ·she had a few mental problems
because she thought no one wanted her. She was living up there
because she was so old and no one had adopted her.
While she was living up there with the nuns she really took
good care of herself. She had this long beautiful hair and everyone
told her how beautiful they thought she was. They would tell
her not to worry and that someone would want someone·'as beautiful
as her.
She goes out on this date one night and she is traveling
through the canyon and they wreck and her face went through :. the
windshield. He died, he got thrown out of the car when the car
started to roll. Her face went through the windshield. It
severed all her hair off. She was lucky to make it. She broke
her arm. Her other arm went through the windshield with her and
it got cut off. And they found her there. She was about half
crazy because she couldn't get out of the windshield. She was
stuck, just like that. He was dead and she was just hysterical
and half crazy when they found her, but she did survive. They
had to shave off all her hair because of the head lacerations.
They had to sew up her scalp again. She had a hook arm because
all the nerves in her ar~were so badly damaged that they couldn't
put it back on.
She was having a lot of trouble adjusting. They took her
back up to the convent and told her not to worry. All of the nuns
were sweet to her, but she was never the same. She would have
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fits and tremors.
On the first anniversary of the accident was the ending of
St. Anne's. They went up there the next day and every single nun
had been hacked to death with a hooken arm and that girl was gone.
They never found her. That's when they closed St. Anne's.
If you go there at midnight you can see her face looking
into the swimming pool looking at her hair gone because that is
what triggered it off. It was her anniversary, her hair was gone,
and she wasn't the same. She was out walking in the moonlight
and looked in the pool and saw her reflection of her with her long
hair. She was all nice and normal. Then it turned midnight when
it happened and she looked back and she was standing there saying,
"oh ye s, someone wi 11 want me, I'm so great. II
Then it turned midnight and she saw herself as she really was,
all scarred and deformed. Her hair was short and hacked off. And
her arms .•. 0 She went crazy and turned around and ran into the
house and slashed everybody up.
They found hook marks in the door where she tried to claw in.
She broke her way in and killed them and cut off al1 their hair.
Then she ran away in to the hills. They say that if you go back
there at midnight and look into the pool she will appear to you.
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Jon Siler
" Saint Anne~ s Retreat"
Fe bruary, 1981
USU Campus
Item ~f~
Jon first heard this story while he was driving up Logan Canyon
on his way to Saint Anne's with some friends. He doesrrt personally
believe this story, but he admits that it did make for a frightening
experience at St. Anne's.
I heard that St. Anne's was at first built and owned by the Catholic
church. They would send nuns up there. First I heard that it was
a place where they would send nuns that got pregnant. I heard
that there was this guy that lived up there in the hills that was
a hermit. He would come down and really hassle all the Catholics
there. He would tell them to leave and they never would. So
he started getting physical and violent. It ended up that he
came down and killed these nuns. He killed all the nuns in
different places. There's a shack down lower and one got
hatched there. One got drown in the ~wimming pool.
I have also heard that one nun got pregnant and went and drown
herself in the swimming pool. People have told me that they have
gone up there and they had been walking up the road and there was
a noose hanging from a tree that was swinging back and forth.
They have also sworn to have seen dogs up there.
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Bryon Hugie
"Saint Anne's Retreat"
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item #7
Bryon first heard this story from his grandmother. He doesn't
know where she heard it from. He has heard this story more than
once and from different people so he figures there is a good chance
some of it is true.
It (St. Anne's) used to be an old nunnery. It was a sin
for the nuns to have kids. Well there was a camp up there and
there was a couple of nuns that did have kids. The mother nun,
I don't know what they call them, found out about the babies so
she stole the kids one night and threw them in the swimming pool
and drown them.
There is a big swimming pool up there and a bunch of old
buildings. The main nunnery where they used to hold their meetings
burned down and all there is is an old building place. The cement
foundation is still there and that is about all.
She threw the babies in the pool and they drown and that same
night the whola place burned down. It all happened in one day and
one night. From what I hear, the nuns aren't permitted up there
any more. They aren't suppose to go up there and they closed it
all down. I don't know if they (the nuns) all left of if they are
still here in the valley.
The original name of that mother nun was Saint Hecida.
There is suppose to be some dogs sitting there watching the place
for Witch Hecida. When ever you go up there you are suppose to
be able to hear their chains or hear them bark.
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Larry Gates
"Saint Anne's Retreat"
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item #8
Larry wasn't too sure on the details, but the main ideas are
included in the story. .He heard the story from some of his
friends quite a few years ago.
It's just a typical maniac nun story. The nun with the
hook, she lost one hand. There were two kids up the canyon
going at it in the back of the car. They heard something
russtling in the bushes. They got real nervous and drove home.
When they got home there was a hook hanging in the door handle.
(The person with the hook was suppose to be a nun from St. Anne's)
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Bryon Hugie
February, 1981
USU Campus
'Item 119
"Personal Experience with Saint Anne's Retreat"
At first Bryon was a little reluctant to talk about this after
I told him it would be typed up and recorded in the Archives.
Once I got him talking though, he told me everything I wanted to
know.
It all started one night up Logan Canyon. Me and a bunch
of my friends had a big brain storm idea. We would cruise up to
St. Anne's and have a little fun. We had heard a bunch about the
place so we decided to go up and check it out by ourselves.
There was me and three other guys the very first time we
went up there. We got up there and it was pretty quiet and there
was a full moon. We got up there and we started walking up in there.
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We got up there and we went into the swimming pool. (there
is no water in the pool now.) My friends like playing with ouija
boards. I thought this was going to be super that we would be
playing with a ouija board at the bottom of the swimming pool.
We didn't have one with us that night so we figured that we
would bring one up next time we came.
We looked through all the old buildings and that was pretty
scary. We saw a lot of mounds of dirt with crosses on top of them
with weeds over the crosses. It was pretty weird because they
were allover. They were around the houses, and they were on the
side hills.
We looked around a little bit longer but we didn't stay too
long.
The next night we got a bunch more of people. I think
there was about six, seven of us, maybe eight of us up there.
We took a ouija board and we got up there and played with it at
the bottom of the swimming pool. It was a full moon again. The
board was working super. I swear that I heard dogs chains that
night and so do my buddies. It was weird the way it happened.
We told everybody about it. The next night we went up there
with quite a few more friends. We took a couple car loads up.
When we got up there nobody dared to go in there. There was a
weird feeling there. There is a bridge there before you go in
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I finally told them that I would go in if somebody would
come with me. So me and two other guys went in there and we got
way back in there and there was some people up in there.
It is summer homes up in there now. We knocked on their door,
but nobody answered. So we left.
We went and rumaged through a bunch of old junk that is underneath
the cabins and looked through it and found a bunch of old
beds and dressers and junk like that.
My mom and a few people that I have asked about the place
don't really care for us to go up there. For a while we were
going up about every night. It was for about three weeks straight.
It was a big thing. We'd take everybody up there and show them
around and show them the things that we had found.
St. Anne's is a weird place. We went up there some nights
and there was no way we could find it. It's in a corner. It's
just off the side of the road and it has a bunch of trees around
the road. It'~ all grown in the there is an old bridge that is chained
up and there is no way you could break that chain.
St. Anne's is pretty neat looking. There is a bridge and
then there is an upper road or a lower road you can go on. It
forks off and right in the center of that fork is where the
swimming pool sits. It sits up on a great big high mound of
grass. It's got a diving board off of it. After that the
right road dies and the left one goes up a canyon. The nuns used
to go up this canyon to do their meditating and being with the
Lord.
It's got a big gate going across the bridge. Some nights we
have gone up there and we have combed that canyon. It's down
from the Girl's Camp and we have combed the right side of the
road fifty times and there was no way we could find that road. We
have all but walked up and down there. We've gone about 5 miles
an hour in the car and there is no way we have been able to find
it. But on some nights we've been able to drive right to it.
I remember one special night. We all jumped in the car and
went way off the side of the road just as slow as we could, but
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we thought we might have missed it so we went up and down that
road about 10 times and we never did find it. There was a bunch
of us looking, so it's not just a matter of one of us missing it.
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Chris Lutz
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item iHO
"The 'Real' Story of Saint Anne's Retreat"
Chris told me that the following story is the real story of St.
Anne's Retreat. I have no reason to believe that this is not
the real story, but on the other hand, I have no proof to back
this story up. She did not tell me where she heard this story.
There is a Catholic church on Fraternity Row. Some people owned
this church--it was their house. They were Catholic and they
wanted to hold masses and there was no other churches except the
Mormon church. So the Catholics built on that chapel part of it.
They named it Saint John's, because they always name everything
after saints.
~Ci,e!:1 Then it started becoming big and lots of Catholic families
started moving in so they converted their whole house into a
church. You know, with a place for the Father to sleep. And
then they built St. Anne's for themselves as a home.
And it was a home, it was not a retreat for nuns. Nuns were never
there. It has a swimming pool up there. It's a really nice plaee
with a family room and a kitchen and bedrooms and a little deck to
overlook the swimming pool. It's just a house .
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Jon Siler
"A Presence in Logan Canyon"
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item tfoll
This story happened to the brother of one of Jon's friends. He
believes it to be true because it happened to someone he knew
that swears that it actually happened. Jon said this experience
was instrumental in the reason the boy involved in the story
served a mission.
The person this story happened to is the brother of a friend
of mine. He was a pretty rowdy guy.[,:,He was driving through
Logan Canyon by himself one night and all of a sudden he felt
a type of presence or something and so he looked in his rear
view mirror. In the back seat there was two red eyes looking
at him. He drove through the canyon because he didn't know what
would happened if he stopped.
Then all of a sudden somebody started rattling in his 8-track
tapes in the back seat. Then some tapes started flipping around
in the back of his car. He kept driving all the way home and nothing
ever really happened, but he kept looking in the rear view mirror
and those red eyes were right there all the way down the canyon.
When he got home after that he straightened up and went on a
mission.
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Bruce Ward
"The Man of Logan Canyonll
February, 1981
USU Campus
Item 1112
Bruce heard this story while he was at a scout camp. He doesn't
believe the story himself, but he thinks that some of the people
at the camp did.
The story is about a guy who is suppose to live in the
Logan mountains. He worked in a mine. His foreman for some
reason ended up falling in love with this guy's wife. So the
foreman set a charge that had a delayed fuse on it. They set it
off and it didn't go off and it didn't go off so the foreman sent
Hyrum in after it ti see what was going wrong with the charge in
the mine. Just as Hyrum got in there it blew up.
They thought it had killed him and it really didn't. It just
burned one side of his face real bad. He didn't dare go home
cause he looked so awful, and it made him sick. So he just
lived in the mountains for a long time. He went back and he
killed this. foreman and no one could never figure out how he
had died.
Hyrum was suppose to have been seen by some people, but
he would always run away. No one ever got a good look at him.
Some forest ranger were up there in the mountains one day and they
say they saw this guy that was doing something, but they couldn't
figure out what it was so they got up real close and he turned
around and one side of his face was a11bblack and he had filed his
teeth pointy.
~He started coming after the forest rangers so they ran, and
they got in their truck and the story is suppose to go that
he was so strong that he ripped the door off as they drove away.
They found some old cabins up there that had human ske1tons
hanging on hooks. The story has it that he would go around and
kill people and that he would take them back up to his cabin.
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LEGENDS OF ST. ANNE'S RETREAT
Sandra L. Shaw
Utah State University
Fife Folklore Archives
Logan, Utah
English 423
Instructor: Wilson
Summer 1984
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LEGENDS OF ST. ANNE"S RETREAT
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Sandra L. Shaw
Logan, Utah
Utah State University
American Folklore
Summer, 1984
T ABLE OF CONT ENTS
Cover Essay • • • • . . . . . . . i • Autobiographical Sketch . . . . . . . . . •• vi
Item if Informant Title
I. Hekeda at St. Anne's Retreat
1 Rich, R. The Deer Lady
2 Richardson, D. The Jealous Nun
3 Ferrin, R. Drowning Babies
4 Ferrin, R. Disappearing Keys
5 Alder, E. Freezing Nuns
6 Hardman, L. Hedeka and Her Dogs
7 Neeley, A. S. Hook Lady
8 Jensen, S. The Lynching Mob
II. Modern Day Experiences at St. Anne's Retreat • 9 Jensen, S. Scratched Paint Job
10 Hardman, L. Barking Dogs
11 Hoth, J. Clean and Dirty Swinuning Pool
III. Other Hauntings of St. Anne's Retreat
12 Allred, J. Mass Murderer
13 Nelson, J. Haunted Retreat
14 Budge, L. Pregnant Nun
15 Sinunons, P. Fighting Nuns
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Cover Essay
I have grown up in Log~ and because I know so many people from the area
I decided to focus on something that I could collect from my friends. I
thought of things that were common to most Logan High School graduates
and St. Anne's retreat immediately came to mind. It has always intrigued
me because I had never heard a story before that explained in detail why
it was such a scary place. I had heard rumors that nuns had been killed
at the retreat, but I had always wondered about the details. I thought
it was amazing that such a thing could happen in Logan Canyon because it
was so out of the ordinary for a place like Cache Valley to have a murder
take place.
I have ~een up to St. Anne's a couple of times when I was in high
school, and I knew that other people had often gone up there too. I had
been scared each time I had gon~ and I was also very curious about where
and why the stories had originated. I thought that there must have been
some incident that had started the telling of the legends, and I was
very curious to know if there was any truth to them. I had always thought
that nuns were interesting and mysterious, and this added to my. desire to
find out more about the legend of St. Anne's.
As I learned about folklore, I began to notice that legends like the
one about St. Anne's were not just found in Cache Valley, but allover the
country. I realized that being scared was a favorite pastime of many
people, and even such small towns as Mink Creek had someplace that was
considered haunted. I found that people, especially high school kids, .~
would tell scary stories about a certain place, and then go there to
get scared or carry out some tradition to bring a ghost out. The stories
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usually dealt with some kind of restless ghost haunting the place because
of a sudde~ violent death.
After I had chosen my topic, I began collecting by asking people if
they knew any stories about St. Anne's Retreat. The easiest place to
collect, although it was somewhat ironic, was at church on sunday. I attend
a young adult L.D.S. ward, whose members are mostly people who have graduated
from Logan High School. I would ask as many people as possible if they
knew anything about St. Anne's, and then I would wtite their name down and
call them later to get the full details. This was an easy way to go through
a large number of people without much effort.
I later collected by calling informants on the telephone, and then
writing down what they were saying as quickly and as accurately as I could.
I tried to use the words that the informant had used, but I edited the unnecessaJY
words. I put down the idea of what the person told me, and used
the more original words in their narration. Some of the informants had
a hard time remembering the stories, and would tell me a few circumstances
out of order. For these items (#2,11,15) I put the circumstances in a
story form, however most of the items were told in story form.
I classified all of the items as legends, and then I ~anged them
according to theme. From each informant I collected their place of birth,
age, education, religion, and ancestry. I asked each informant a variety
of questions about the circustances in which they heard the story, and I
also asked them what they thought of the story. These questions included
such things as: whether or not they believed the story, if it scared them,
if they had been to the retreat, why they thought that people told the
legends, did they like the story, and why were nuns used in the stories •
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The answers to these questions enabled me to better evaluate the
p~Tpose of the legends and the reasons why people tell them. Most of
the informants thought that reasons for telling the storieses were for
fun, excitement, and thrills. While I was doing this project, I realized
that people love the excitement that goes along with being scared, and
they tell these stories in order to get that excitement. Some people
believed that the legends originated because something really did happen
at St. Anne's Retreat which spa'DkEid the telling of these stories. I do not
know if a murder took place at St. Anne's, but I think that something
mysterious might have happened at the retreat. Another reason for the
stories could be the intriguing qualities that nuns have to an L.D.S.
community like Logan. Few mormons understand nuns, and because of this,
people might have begun to tell stories about them to express their fears
of the unknown. They could have begun as warning stories to young people
to keep them from going up the canyon late at night. This theory is
ironic because telling such legend causes young people to become curious,
and they desire to go to the retreat to find out if it realily is haunted.
Most of the people I interviewed had been to the retreat.
I felt the , comment made by informant if 8, "people tell stories about
St. Anne's because it adds excitement to an otherwise normal place," was
an ,',insightful comment about St. Anne's. It is an ordinary retreat, but
because pe0ple have built up such a significant tradition of legends about
it, it has become an infamous landmark to a large number of Cache Valley
residents. I asked many people if they could tell me a story about St.
Anne's, and most of them could not give me a detailed story about it, but
they had heard of it, and they' knew that legends did exist about it. It
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is amazing that so many people know that St. Anne's even exists. Because
they do know, I think that a conclusion about human nature can be drawn.
People like to talk about the infamous, tragic, mysterious, and sensational,
otherwise the legend of St. Anne's would have died out long ag~ along with
many of the other legend that exist allover the world.
Many of the informants had heard the story at girl's camp where it
is traditional to sit aroung the campfire telling ghost stories. Most of
the other informants heard the story at a party where there was a large
group of people. This shows that people like to talk about the supernatural.
They like to think about those things that are out of the ordinary because
they may feel that their own lives are very normal and relatively unexciting.
Because they do not know what the lifestyle of a nun is like, they may thi nk
that a nun has a more exciting life than they do, especially if she has
a big black dog or a haunted swimming pool nearby.
I think that people receive a superioTity; by talking about these kinds
of things. First, they are eager to pity someone else other than themselves,
and they are also relieved that such a terrible thing didn't happen to
them. They can vicariously experience the fear that the legendary characters
have felt when they visit the retreat, but they feel the security of having
a group of friends with them. They also have the security of knowing that
other people have gone up to the retreat before them and made it back altve.
This gives the person a chance to feel superior to the figures in the
legends, and may enable the person to feel better about themselves.
The variations on the legend are so numerous that it is almost
impossible to come up with an all inclusive story. The nuns are usually
a significant part of the legends, and the black dogs, and empty swimming
pool are often mentioned. These three it~s allow the storyteller to add
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unusual details to their story that will make it more interesting. The
purpose of these stories is significant because they do offer a c~~ce for
the listener to escape from an ordinary life and think about the extraordinary.
Because they are somewhat believable, the stories are exciting and fun to
hear. They are an interesting and exciting way of entertaing people.
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Autobiographical Sketch
I was born on July 25, 1964, in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I grew up in
Logan, Utah. Both of my parents were raised in Ogden, Utah. I have one
older brother, and one older sister. Both -:of them are married, and I
have been the only child living at home with my parents for about seven
years.
For many years my dad worked for Grand Teton National Park during the
summer months as a naturalist. Our family enjoys hiking and camping together.
We enjoy mountains and wilderness because we spent so much time togetether
in the Tetons. We often sat around a campfire and talked until late at
night. I don't remember hearing any ghost stories, but I do remember
hearing jokes and bear stories. During the rest of the year my father
teaches botany at USU.
I have lived in Logan all of my life. I went to Hillcrest Elementary
School, Logan Junior High School, and Logan Senior High School. I am now
attending USU where I have changed my major from computer science to nursing.
I was recently accepted into the WSC/USU nursing program. I will graduate
in 1986 with an associate degree in nursing, and I hope to go on to get
my bachelor's degree •
I am an active member of the L.D.S. Church. My hobbies include
sewing, crosstitch, photography, playing the piano, hiking, and skiing.
I work for the USDA Poisonous Plant Lab in the Plant Industry Building
at USU analyzing poisonous plants •
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Item if 1
"The Deer Lady"
Informant Data:
Robert Rich
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Robert Rich, 22, was born and raised in Logan, Utah. He is an active
member of the L.D.S. Church, and he served a mission to Japan. His
ancestry is English. He is a sophomore at U.S.U. majoring in civeil
engineering. He likes skiing, phoography, and sports.
Contextual Data:
Robert heard this story at a high school party at St. Anne's. He
didn't believe the story, and it didn't scare him. He liked the story
because it scared everybody else. He thinks that people tell the St.
Anne's story because it is scary to alot of people, and it brings about
a scary atomosphere. Robert thinks it is fun to be scared, and he likes
to tell scary stories.
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Julian was the most beautiful lady in all of Logan. She was working
at a bottling plant to get enough money to get married. One day as she
was working, her beautiful long hair got caught in a machine and pulled
her in, scarring and mangling her face. Her hand was cut off, and a hook
was put in its' place. Her fiancee refused to marry her, and the towns-people
made fun of her ugly features. Angered and discouraged, she changed
her name to Hekeda and moved up the canyon to live. As she watched young,
pretty couples corne up the canyon, she got a wonderful idea of revenge.
She attacked the couples and scarred and mangled the girls. She couldn't
be caught because she could run as fast as a deer, and she knew trails
and shortcuts in the woods that no one else knew of. Sometimes, even
today, you can still see her running in her white nightgown with her hook
hand glistening in the moonlight.
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Item # 2
"The Jealous Nun"
Informant Datal
Darci Richardson
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Darci Richardson, 19, was born in Wisconsin and raised in Logan, Utah.
She is a sophomore in elementary education at U.S.U., and she enjoys
playing the piano, bicycling, and talking. She is an active memeber of
the L.D.S. Church.
Contextual Data:
Darci heard this story at girl's camp. She was very scared when she
heard the story, and she believes that nuns did get killed at St. Anne's,
but she doesn't believe the rest of the story. She has been to the retreat,
and she was scared when she went. She thinks that everyone wants to tell
their own story about St. Anne's because it is fun and entertaining. She
believes it was a Catholic Retreat, and she is curious to know if any of
the story is true. She thinks that people go up to the retreat to showoff
and to satisfy tpeir curiosity.
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The pregnant nuns were sent up to St. Annes. One of the nuns, named
Hekeda was having an affair with the male caretaker. She became jealous
when the other nuns talked to hi~ so she killed all of the nuns. The dogs
barked when she murdered the nuns, and when you go up there now you can
hear them barking and see their green eyes shining •
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Item II 3 & 4
"Drowning Babies" & "Disappearing Keys"
Informant Data:
Rosalie Ferrin
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Rosalie Ferrin, 18, was born and raised in Logan, Utah, She is a
freshman at U.S.U. majoring in communications. She recently graduated
from Logan High, where she was the validictorian of her class. She was
also honored as "Miss Logan." She is an active member of the L.D.S. Church,
and she enjoys dancing, sleeping, and just "hanging out.-
Contextual Data:
She heard both of these stories at girl's camp when they were sitting
around a campfire telling ghost stories. She does not believe the stories
are true, and she thinks that they are told to keep up the tradition of
telling stories. She believes that everyone changes the legends about
St. Anne's, and tells them the best that they can remember them.
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The nuns used to go up there when they got pregnant, and they would
have their babies. Then they would drown them in the swimming pool and
bury them. He~eda was a nun who got caught drowning her baby, and she
got in trouble with her priest. She stays at the retreat to haunt other
nuns who try to drown their babies.
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This is supposed to have happened to someone when they went up to
St. Anne's. They drove their car up there, parked it, and turned off
the lights. They put t}h::>lirr car keys on the top of the car to bring Witch
Hekeda down. A light shone on the car and the car keys disappered. They
couldn't leave St. Anne's without their keys, and they never retruned home •
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Item IF 5
"Freezing Nuns"
Informant Data:
Elise Alder
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Elise Alder, 19, was born and raised in Logan, Utah. She is of Swiss
and Welch ancestry and active in the L.D.S. Church. She is a sophomore
in elementary education at U.S.U •• She likes to play with children, do
handwork, sew and care for plants. She works at Carousel Square as a food
worker.
Contextual Data:
Elise thinks she heard this story at a slumber party with all of her
girlfriends. She said they would tell scary stories and stay up all night
because they were so scared. They liked to talk about the supernatural.
She thought that if they talked about evil things long enough, something
evil would happen to them. She believed that nuns were used in the story
because they were mysterious, and nobody knew what the lifestyle of a nun
was like. She didn't think it was to put down Catholics, but to play up
the devil. She doesn't belive the storiesi but she and her girlfriends
were very scared by them because they thought something evil could happen
to them.
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St. Anne's was a place where nuns could go on a vacation, usually
in the summer or winter. One winter a long time ago; some nuns' went up-,
there to stay. It was a very s1!V~e winter with lots of snow so a man had
to bring their supplies to them every week. He would take their fuel and
food to them because it was the only way they could get it. One week the
man couldn't get his wagon through, and he had to wait about two weeks
before he could go up there again. He finally made it up to the retreat,
and he found all the nuns had starved and frozen to death. He noticed
that their bodies had been chewed by dogs. He was very wo~ried about this,
and was just leaving when he saw one of the nuns, whose name was Hekeda.
She began chasing him with her two dogs. He got away and told the towns-people
what had happened. Hekeda still haunts the retreat with her dogs,
and you can see her chasing you in your rearview mirror as you are leaving •
It is believed she is of the devil.
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Item fI 6
"Hekeda and Her Dogs"
Informant Data:
Larry Hardman
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Larry Hardman, 22, was born and raised in Logan, Utah. He is of
Anglo-saxon and Danish ancestry. He is active in the L.D.S. Church, and
he served a mission in London. He is a sophomore majoring in business
at U.S.U. He likes sports, writing, and exercising.
Contextual Data:
His friend told him this story one evening when they were bored and
trying to think of something to do. His friend wanted to take some girls
up to St. Anne's and scare them. Larry hadn't heard of St. Anne's before
so he was told this story. He thinks the story is a good one because he
believes it to be partially true. He said that he read in the local newspaper
th~t there actually were some nuns who were killed up there. He
also likes the name Hekeda because it is a good, scary name. He used b
go up to the retreat often when he was in high school. He liked to go
up there to get scared, and showoff how brave he was. He would take girls
there to scare them and protect them.
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All the nuns and mother superior lived at St. Anne's. One of the
nun's name was Hekeda, and she took care of seven afghan hounds. In the
early 1920's a guy went up there and killed and raped them all. All of
the bodies were found except Hekeda's and the dog's. Every time someone
goes up to St. Anne's to fix it up, they always hear dogs barking, and
then see a lantern'on the mountain. You can see the figure of a woman
walking her dogs up there at night. If you yell the name Hekeda three
time~ a blue fog will cover your car, and you won't be able to come down
out of the canyon •
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Item # 7
"Hook Lady"
Informant Datal
Angela Sue Neeley
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Angela Sue Neeley, 20, was born and raised in Logan, Utah. She is
of English ancestry and active in the LDS Church. She is a senior at
U.S.U. majoring in elementary education. She enjoys skiing, writing
letters, reading, and crosstitch.
Contextual Data:
She was at girl's camp in Logan Canyon sitting around a fire telling
scary stories when one of the girls told about St. Anne's. She said that
everyone got scared, especially since they were so close to the retreat.
She was very scared, but she still wanted to go to the retreat for the
adventure of it. She thinks being scared when you are in a big group is
fun because you can all hold hands and scream. She thinks the stories
are told for fun, for a reaction, and for scaring people. She has gone
up there a couple of times with friends, and she kept watching for Hekeda
all the way home. She was so scared one time, that she wet her pants.
She doesn't believe the story is true, but it does scare her. She says
she wants to believe the story for fun.
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The most beautiful woman in logan was in an accident while she was
working, and she got caught in some machinery. Her hand was cut off and
her face was marred. She had to we-ar a hook on her hand, and she lives up
at St. Annes. She gets revenge on beautiful girls. Some girls were
found floating the the swimming pool, and they had scraped necks from
Hekeda's hook. If you go up to the retreat . and bother Hekeda, she will
follow you home at night and scratch on your window •
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Item /I 8
''The Lynching Mob"
Informant Data:
Steve Jensen
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Steve Jensen, 21, was born in Cleveland, Ohio, and .lraised in Logan.
He is majoring in Pre-med at U.S.U. where he is currently a junior. His
ancestry is Finnish and English, and he is an active member of the L.D.S.
Church. His hobbies include sports, and horseback riding.
Contextual Datal
Steve heard the first item from a friend, who told him the story,
when they went up to St. Anne's Retreat one day. He later asked his
parents if the story was true, and they told him it was, but they were
on vacation when it happened. He didn't think the story was scary, but
he thought it was amusing in a gory sort of way. He doesn't believe the
story is true, but he thinks it sounds possible, however it is hard for
him to beleive that something like that would happen in Utah without
everybody knowing about it.
The second item was told to him by his brother when they were taking
dates up there. The dates had heard about St. Anne's, but they had never
seen it. The dates wanted to see the place and hear about it. This story
scared Steve because it was more modern, but he didn't believe it.
Steve thinks that people tell stories about St. Anne's because it
adds excitement to an otherwise normal place. He believes that nuns are
used because the retreat was owned by the Catholic Curch. He doesn't
like to get scared, but he does like adventure.
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This actually happened sometime in the early sixties. St. Anne's
was a vacation area, and there were about twelve or thirteen nuns up there
when one of them went bezerk. She just went bonkers. She had been training
these four Black Labs, which she had gotten from Hekeda, to kill. She
kept them in a woodshed on the mountainside, and one night she let the
dogs loose. She got a lantern and a hatchet, and she and her dogs slaughtered
all of the nuns. Time passed and nothing was discovered until someone
made a delivery to the retreat. The person who found the dead nuns went
back to Logan and got a bunch of people together. This mob of people
went up to St. Anne'~ and they found the crazy nnn, and they decided to
hang her. They gave her the chance to speak her last words, and she said,
"I will forever haunt this place." She still haunts St. Anne's today.
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Item it 9
"Scratched Raint Job"
Steve Jensen
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
About eight years ago, four high school guys drove up to St. Anne's.
They were just goofing around, and they thought all of the stories about
St. Anne's were just a joke. -They had a ouija board with them, and they
started saying stuff like, "St. Anne, come and get us. Come here St. Anne."
All of a sudden they heard dogs barking, but they couldn't see them. This
scared the~ so they got in their car and locked the doors. They were
just sitting in the car when the heard scratching noises allover their
car, but they couldn't see anything. They started to drive away, and they
looked out their back window. They saw a woman standing there with four
Black Labrador dogs, and she had a lantern in one hand and a hatchet in
her other hand. When they got down out of the canyon, they found that
the car was all scratched up, and the guy who owned it had to pay $200.00
to get a new paint job.
*Notes Informant and contextual data are found on the previous page.
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"Barking Dogs"
Informant Datal
Lucy Hardman
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Lucy Hardman, 24, was born and raised in Logan, Utah. She is a
senior at U.S.U. majoring in art. She is active in the L.D.S. Church,
and she served a mission to Kansas. She does volunteer work at a preschool
for handicapped children, and she enjoys sports, ceramics, and sewing.
She likes to tease people, and she has a fun sense of humor.
Contextual Datal
Lucy told me this story as a personal experience which happened to
her when she was in high school. She believes the legend of St. Anne's,
and she believes that there really were dogs chasing her and her friends.
I don't know if she was teasing me when she told me that she believed the
story or not. She loves to be scared,and she thinks that is why people
tell scary stories. She doesn't believe that nun stories are told only
in Cache Valley, but allover the world.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
Lucy and her friend were driving around the canyon one fall night
when it was really nice and warm, and they decided to go to St. Anne's.
There were three guys who wanted to go, and three girls who didn't want
to go. Since the boys were driving, they went. They parked the car by
the highway, and began walking up the dirt road. On the way, one of the
guys said "Do you know what happened up here?", and he proceeded to tell
story of the nuns. '~he nuns used to come up here in the wintertime and
stay. One spring the nuns didn't come back. The townspeople went up to
investigate, and they found the bodies of the nuns floating in the swimming
pool, because they had been raped and murdered. They also found mother
superior's black dogs chained up and starved to death in a shack." The
guy telling the story suggested that they go look in the swimming pool.
l"'hile they were looking at it, one of the guys yelled, "I'm scared," and
ran to the car as fast as he could. Everyone else followed him, but the
girls were slower. As they were running down the mountain, they heard
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dogs barking and chains dragging on the ground, and they thought the dogs
were chasing them. The dogs were howling and looking for the nuns. The
girls were crying because they were so scared •
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"Clean and Dirty Swimming Pool"
Jana Hoth
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
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Informant Data: Jana Hoth, 20 was born and raised in Logan, Utah. She
is of German ancestry and active in the L.D.S. Church. She is a sophomore
at U.S.U. majoring in business. She likes sports, sewing, and watching
T.V •• She works at Schriber's Cheese.
Contextual Data:
Jana can It remember where or why she heard this story, but her friend
told her the story as if it had happened to her brother. She didn't know
if it was true or not, but she believes that stories are told about St.
Anne's because something did happen at the retreat, and people add on to
and change the real story. She had never been to St. Anne's or heard the
legend about the nuns.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
Some guys went up toS:t:o,Anne's once, and while they were drivinB'-up
the road a tree fell down in front of their car, and they thought they
might have seen a lady jump out of the trees too. They saw the swimming
pool and half of it was dirty and half of it was clean, but they didn't
know why. Some girls also claimed that they saw ghosts or something there.
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"Hasa{Murderer"
Informant Data:
Jeff Allred
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Jeff Allred, 21, was born and raised in Log~, Utah. He is of English
ancestry, and he is active in the L.D.S. Church for which he served a
mission to Oklahoma. He likes footbal~ softball, motorcycles, and women.
He is attending U.S.U ••
Contextual Data:
Jeff heard this story when he was in high school. He was talking
with his friends at lunch time and sitting on the jock bench--this is a
bench at Logan High where all of the "jocks" sit--when the subject of St.
Anne's came up. The legend was told to entertain, and to scare the guys.
He went up to St. Anne's often in high school. He liked to take girls up
there, and scare them. He doesn't believe the story is true, but he does
like it.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
On a dark and dreary night, a fugitive from the law murdered his
wife . and his neighbors on both sides of his house. They were left in
pools of blood. The cops came to get him, and he cut their throats :with
a knife he had hidden in his left shoe. He drove the cop car up fourth
north, and on the way he saw a group of preschool children, which he picked
up and drove to St. Anne's, where he butchered them and put them in the
swimming pool. The nuns living there came out to see what was going on,
and he slaughtered them too. He threw them into swimming pool, .and it
had become a pool of blood. The police came up to the retreat to find
him, but they never did. The cops took all the bodies down to the dump
in garbage trucks, and they came back to go swimming in the bloody pool •
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"Haunted Retreat"
Informant Data:
Jenny Nelson
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Jenny Nelson, 20, was born in Colorado Springs, Colo., and reaised
in Logan, Utah. She is of Swedish ancestry and active in the L.D.S.
Church. She enjoys reading, playing the cello, and skiing. She works
as a secretary, and sh is a junior at U.S.U. majoring in English.
Contextual Data:
Jenny was at a high school party in Logan Canyon when she heard this
story. Guys and girls were sitting around telling scary stories when they
began talking about St. Anne's Retreat, and they decided to go up there
and look around. Jenny didn't believe all of the story, but she did believe
that someone had been killed at the retreat. She was scared when they
were at the retreat, and she felt like something might happen, but she
didn't know what. She thinks that people tell the stories because ito: is
fun to be scared, and she does not feel that the stories are told to
demean Catholics. She felt that the experience she had at the retreat
enhanced the associations between the guys and girls, and she thought that
some boys would take girls up to the retreat so that they could act as a
protector and show off their courage.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
There was a murderer hanging around the canyon who visciously
slaughtered one or two of the nuns, and their ghosts haunt the area
now. When they were murdered the dogs barked at the murderer, and you
can still hear them barking and the nuns screaming when you go up there
at night. The dogs will bark until you fall into the swimming pool.
They closed the nunnery because of what happened there. The hauntings
have caused more deaths, and someone dived off the diving board into an
empty pool. Other people have gotten killed there.
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"Pregnant Nun"
Informant Data:
Lanice Budge
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Lanice Budge, 19, was born and raised in Logan, Utah. She is an
active member of the L.D.S. Church, and she is of German and English
ancestry. She likes to swim and ride horses. She is a sophomore at U.S.U
majoring in math education.
Contextual Data:
She can't remember where she heard this story or who told it to her
because she has heard so many stories about St. Anne's at different times.
She thinks that she probably heard it at a party in the canyon with a group
of her friends. She tried to go up to the retreat onc~ but a man told
her to leave. She doesn't like the story, and she dOGS not believe any
of it is true. She thinks it is a sick story, and whoever made it up
had a morbid imagination. She was not at all scared by the story. She
thought people told the story to get scared and excited.
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One of the nuns that was living up at the retreat got pregnant, so
she killed all of the other nuns because she didn't want anyone to know
that she was pregnant. She had the baby, and it reminded her that she had
killed everyone else, so she killed it toq by drowning it in the swimming
pool. She haunts the area today.
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"l1ighti ng Nuns"
Informant Data,
Patricia Simmons
Logan, Utah
July, 1984
Patricia Simmons, 19, was born and raised in Logan, Utah. She is
a sophomore at U.S.U. majoring in economics. She is of English ancestry,
and she is active in the L.D.S. Church. She enjoys playing the piano,
reading, playing tennis, and music.
Contextual Data,
Patricia was at a party in the canyon with her high school friends
when she heard this story. They went up to the retreat to look around,
but she was truo scared to go all the way to the swimming pool. She doesn't
enjoy getting scared, and she didn't like the story or believe it. She
was scared because of the spirit of telling ghost stories, and she did
have a little belLef in the story. She thinks that people tell the stories
about St. Anne's because they like to get attentnion, get scared, and show
off. She believes that the story is told about nuns because it was once
a nunnery.
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Two nuns were fighting by the swimming pool at St. Anne's retreat.
One of the nuns was knocked into the swimming pool where she hit her
hea~ and went unconcious and drowned. She haunts the swimming pool today.
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Several legend verisons of St. Anne's Retreat from student fieldwork collection assignments.
Living Legends:
Cache Valley Legend Tripping
Holly Williams
History 5700
Professor Gabbert
Utah State University
Spring 2010
• Living Legends
Holly Williams
HIST 5700
Assignment #3
In a culture of gossip and adrenalin, it's no wonder that legend tripping is such a popular
activity. Legend tripping, or the act of traveling to the location where the legend supposedly happened,
tends to be popular among the young adult age group. I spoke with three men, who had all experienced
legends, or supernatural happenings, personally, or who had heard of others experiencing them. All
these legends take place in Cache Valley. This paper will discuss why these men traveled to the
locations they, or others, did and why they tell the stories to others.
The first person I interviewed was John Reynolds. Each story that he told was a first hand
account of something that he had experienced. Why would John tell me stories that had happened to
him personally? Did they make the stories more scary? Did they make them more real? John, I believe,
• wanted to share his experience with others so that they could experience, too, what he had felt at those
moments.
The first story he told was from when he was in high school. He and some friends decided to
watch a scary movie in the old boy's gym at Logan High. They heard some creaking noises from the
dark corner, but ignored them. Then there was a loud metallic crash and everyone scattered. They later
found out that it was just some boys setting up a dinner for a school dance.
Why would John tell this story and then say what the real reason for the noise was? To start off
his story, he told of how the gym was supposedly haunted, since it was the floor above an old
swimming pool where several students had drowned. Naturally, watching a scary movie in a
supposedly haunted location, would give the gym the aura of spookiness. Similarly, in other legend
tripping adventures, the participants go to the location only when the conditions are right (i.e. on a full
• moon, at midnight, at a certain time of year).
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John ended his story by giving a real reason for the noise, as opposed to a supernatural one.
• What does this mean? Bruce Jackson says:
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"Stories aren't just retrospective: they rationalize, compartmentalize, and
organize the past, but they also license the future. Our narratives provide
the charter for moral decisions, define the permissible and impermissible,
the good and the bad ...
With stories we know our world and where we are in it and where
everyone else is in it" (Jackson, 188).
So in Jackson's view, John was telling how it was something "real" that made the noise to find his place
in the world. He wanted to leave the possibility of there being a ghost open. Yet he rationalized his
character by indicating that the probability of it being something other than another person as being
very slight.
John's second story is similar in many ways. He starts his story off by telling the "facts" of the
story. These facts later justify his reasons for being scared at the house and for finding the house
creepy. After telling the facts about the story, John goes on to tell about visiting the house alone for the
first time, and then going back with friends and their reactions. To him, it didn't matter what time you
went to the house, it was always scary. He describes what the inside of the house looks like and why it
is so scary. He ends his story by saying, "anyway, it's the scariest house ever."
The Petersborough House, in a way, is Cache Valley's Winchester Mystery House. The house
itselfhas no paranormal stories associated with it. The only thing that makes it ''the scariest house
ever" is that fact that it is abnormal. While the main focus of the tours of the Wmchester Mystery
House is "a crazy lady", the main focus of the Petersborough House is the guy that "kind of lost his
mind over time" and disappeared, just like his wife (Goldstein, 100)
Just like the stairs that lead no where, or the doors in the floor of the Wmchester House, things
in the Petersborough House are strange too. The house looks completely abandoned, not moved out of,
just empty "as if they just left the house as is and and took off". This sense ofthings being unnatural,
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• makes the house what it is, no ghost stories are necessary.
In John's last story, he explains why something isn't real, and why people think it is, similar to
his first story. This is a story about John and his friend going to the Weeping Widow, a famous statue in
the Logan Cemetery. He explains that the Weeping Widow is weeping because she had lost all of her
children in infancy. Supposedly on every full moon (although John was not quite sure) you can see the
statue crying real tears from her eyes. John explains that there are stains down the cheeks of the statue
from water, but that they could have gotten there from the rain.
His experience starts when he and his friend go out to the cemetery to look at the statue. They
shine their car lights on the statue to see it and then turn off the car and go look at it. Apparently "her
eyes are kind of glowing and her mouth is glowing a little bit too ... as if it was like stitched shut or
something, these like glowing lines or like a line between her lips." John was scared, showed his friend
who became scared as well, and they both jumped back in the car and turned back on the lights. They
• turned the lights off again and noticed that the statue was glowing more, and so decided that it must be
glow-in-the-dark paint or something on the statue.
I believe John told this story for the same reasons he told the first. He wanted to let the hearer of
the story (me) know that there was a possibility that this statue really cries, and he never really clears
that up. He justifies it as not being so scary because the statue was just painted and the stains were from
rain. I believe he told this story to indicate that he believes that supernatural things do occur, but that he
either doesn't believe in them, or has never experienced them himself. All three of his stories dealt with
why things were scary, even if there really was no "proof' of why it should be so (i.e. no supernatural
happenings at those locations).
I next collected stories from Kevin. He had three first hand accounts of the Alumni House on
campus and then just a retelling of the legend of the Caine Lyric Theatre ghost. The way Kevin told his
• stories is dramatically different than the way that John told his. Kevin's stories were not told to impress,
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rationalize, or anything like that. They were told as fact, not as something to scare others.
• His first experience in the Alumni House, dealt with his computer. He was working in a room
that had two computers. While working on one computer the other started playing music, when he wen
to turn it off it turned offby itself and then turned on again after he had returned to his seat. It turned
off shortly after. All Kevin said of the experience was "kinda weird." He has no explanation of why this
happened except that, maybe, there might be a ghost in the Alumni House, but he wasn't sure. The way
Kevin leaves out all dramatics and fantastical words in his story, allows the listener to believe
everything he says. Nothing is said in a way to make the story feel scary, it simply is by the way he tells
it nonchalantly.
Kevin's second experience in the Alumni House, for many, is more terrifying than the first. For
many believers this story would be proof of a ghost (if not ghosts) in the Alumni House. Kevin tells of
hearing voices upstairs while working downstairs. When he went up the stairs the voices stopped. He
• looked in the office where the voices had come from and then heard them move into another office,
where he checked and once again found nothing. He said it sounded like two people having a
conversation, but at a distance. Once again his explanation for the happenings, nothing but that "it was
kinda weird."
His last experience in the Alumni House also dealt with things acting out of the ordinary. The
shredder in the office next to his started running while no one was in there. He went into the office and
it stopped. He looked around for someone, but there was no one there. He went back into the office
with the paper shredder and it started going again. This story is also told with little terrifying emotion
and almost as if it's not strange for things like that to be happening. In fact he calls the events "weird
disturbances", not hauntings or any of the like.
So why did Kevin tell this stories? And why did he tell them in the way he did? First off, I
• believe that Kevin, like John, was putting himself in his place in the world and trying to find some sort
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of organization for the past events (Jackson, 188). Kevin had no explanation for why things happened
• as they did at the Alumni House. He did, however, characterize himself by indicating that these things
didn't scare him; almost as if he acknowledges them happening but disproving that they were caused by
a ghost because he doesn't believe in them (although he never states his beliefs on the paranormal).
Next Kevin told me the legend of the ghost at the Caine Lyric Theatre. The story is that a
traveling acting company came to the theater and during the play Hamlet, one grave digger gets more
laughs than the other. According to legend, the funnier grave digger never shows up for work the next
day and is never heard from again. It is believed that this actor was murdered and his ghost now resides
at the theater. He is a picky ghost and when someone sits in his seat he makes all things go wrong with
the performances that night.
This story is popular in Logan, and I have heard it told from many different people. Many
people tell it in a way that makes the theater less inviting to go to. Others tell it with more skepticism in
• their tale. I found that Kevin, however, told it just like he did his first hand accounts; as if nothing was
strange about a ghost in a theater.
The legend itself has much potential for study. It is very popular in Logan, and could be
classified as an urban legend. Similar to many of the vanishing hitchhiker stories, the ghost in the Caine
Lyric Theatre is always in the same location, experienced by many different people, and is protecting
something that is important to him. Many of the vanishing hitchhikers just want to make it home, or
complete the task they had set out to do. So too does the ghost in the Caine Theatre want to complete
his task. He wants to be in control of the stage, hold the audience in his hand, and he does (Brunvand,
24-46).
One interesting side note about the Caine Lyric Theatre legend is that of the play that the actor
was in. The ghost that resides in the theater was playing a gravedigger in the Shakespeare play of
• Hamlet. The story of Hamlet is about a man who is murdered, who comes back as a ghost, to avenge
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his own death. The ghost in the Caine Theatre was supposedly murdered, who has come back and who
• will avenge his death on any unsuspecting audience, by ruining their show when someone sits in his
seat. Could this legend just be drawing motifs from Hamlet, or are the two stories coincidentally nearly
identical? Kevin, nor anyone else who has told me the legend, has ever mentioned anything about it.
The last person I collected stories from was Ryan. Neither one of his stories were first hand
accounts, but rather second hand accounts; he knew the person it had happened to. Although this kind
of legend telling is different than the last two legend tellers, it is equally as affective in telling the story
and getting its meaning across.
The first story Ryan told was of how the Junction eatery on campus has a haunted basement.
According to Ryan a lady died in the basement and haunts it. He claims to have had a coworker who
refused to go in the basement alone because he was so afraid of it. Although Ryan never stated if he
believed the story was true or not, the way he describes his coworker as being, there is an indication
• that he believes that his coworker, at least, experienced something strange enough in the basement for
the legend to have some basis, and to pass it on.
The next story he told was that of an experience of some friends of his. Apparently one night
they took a trip up to the Nunnery (another famous legend in Logan) to check out the area. They were
playing in the empty pool when they claim to have seen, in the dark shadows of the deep end, a baby
crawling or walking around. They were more scared, when they came back, than Ryan had ever seen
them. He indicated that they weren't the type of people to "show fear or anything like that", implying
that their experience must have happened.
So why did Ryan tell these stories? Why not tell one of his own? Jackson discusses why people
tell other peoples stories, and I believe Ryan was following just as Jackson says. Ryan "populated an
event [he] knew little about with sufficient detail to make it more affective and dramatic so it would do
• what {he] wanted or needed it to do" (Jackson, 24). Ryan was telling his friends account so that he
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could prove that the Nunnery really is a scary place. There was no need for a back story in this case;
• most everyone in Logan knows the story of the Nunnery. So the strange event that took place there
simple added to the intensity of the legend.
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All in all these three men told stories that helped them locate themselves, and their believes, in
the world. They indicated to the listener, who was a believer in ghosts and the paranormal, and who
was not. They included stories about going to a certain location (legend tripping) and legends about
locations that they may not have been to themselves, but each story had a location attached to it.
Legend tripping and telling of legend tripping will continue for years to come. Each time
something new or strange happens at a legend location that legend becomes more alive and it continues
to grow in the area. This living legends become a part of everyday life for those who have experienced
them. They are a conduit for story telling and belief rationalizing. And they will live on forever.
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Bibliography
Brunvand, Jan Harold. The Vanishing Hitchhiker: American Urban Legends & Their Meanings. W. W.
Norton & Company: New York, London. 1981.
Goldstein, Diane E. Haunting Experiences: Ghosts in Contemponuy Folklore. Utah State University
Press: Logan, Utah.
Jackson, Bruce. The Story Is True: The Art and Meaning of Telling Stories. Temple University Press:
Phi Ii delphia. 2007.
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My name is Holly Williams, I'm here with Ryan Kimball, it is May 4, 2010 .
My name is Ryan Kimball, I am 29 and I was born July 17th 1980. I'm a computer engineer. And I am
roommates with Holly's fiancee.
C9 This story was told to me by a coworker. So I worked with a guy at the Junstion up on campus and he
claims that there was a lady that haunts the basement of the Junction where the coolers and freezers are.
And he was so convinced of that that he was afraid to go down there by himself and so he was one of
the chefs there. And we would go down and get stuff for him and accompany him to the basement
when he had to go down there. And I guess the story is that this lady died down there or something and
haunts it.
And this other one I was, actually some friends of mine went up to the nunnerY to check it out. And I
guess there's a pool there, at the nunnery. And they were playing around in the pool, it was empty of
course. And they looked at one of, the opposite end, I guess as it got deeper and kind of in the shadows
down there, they saw, it looked a baby kind of crawling around or something. Anyway, I don't know
exactly kinda what the baby or whatever they saw was doing. They like came back, and they were like
scared out of their minds the rest of the night. Like they were like really scared, I haven't seen them like
that, ever, because they're pretty, I don't know, not the type to show fear or anything like that. So they
were pretty scared .
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My name is Holly Williams today is May 4,2010 and I am here speaking with Kevin Crouch.
My name is Kevin Crouch. I am 26 borne on March 30th 1984. I'm a student. I know Holly from work
and I am roommates with her fiance.
Well the first one, because it happened to me. I work at th~lumni House on campus and there's been
several occasions where I've been there working late at night. And I had kind of unusual things happen.
I've never been able to determine if there's a ghost, like if there's any kind of back story, but I wouldn't
be surprised if there is some kind of paranormal things going on. One night I was there working late
and I had, in my office there are two computers, and I was working on one, and I had the other up with
Pandora running and I had paused that to concentrate on something on the other computer. And in
doing so, I went back and was working on the other computer, and the other computer had gone into
like a sleep mode. And all of the sudden I heard a noise and turned around and the computer had come
out of sleep mode and had started to play music again off of Pandora. And when I got up and walked
over to the computer, it paused again and went back into sleep mode. And then, when I went to sit
down again it ~ame ba~k up and started playing musi~ again. And then went ba~k into sleep mode
again, kinda weird. Another experience, I was there late and had gone downstairs for something. When
I was coming back up the stairs, in the office I work in, it sounded like I could hear voices talking. And
I came upstairs and I didn't have, none of the computers were on or anything, but I could here these
voices. And when I came upstairs, the voices kind of stopped for a minute but then they went into
another office and so I went over to that office and looked and nothing, and then the voices
disappeared. It just sounded like two people having a conversation, kinda, it sounded like at a distance.
But it was kinda weird. And the last experience I had, I was working, and we have a paper shredder in
another office, next to mine, by where the copier is. And I was working, and I thought I was there
working by myself, and all of the sudden the paper shredder starts going. And I thought, oh maybe
someone else is here, so I got up and I went in. And no one was in the room but the paper shredder was
going and then it stopped. And so I looked around the comer to see if anyone was there, no one was in
the building. And then when I came back into that office, the paper shredder started going again. So
just kind of weird disturbances kind of things. I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out if there is any
kind of story, per say, of there being a ghost that presides at the Alumni House. So that's story one.
The ~t story I've heard from friends that have worked down at the Caine Theatre. They say that there
was, that there's a ghost there. And the story behind that was a traveling acting group that would come
through. And one year they came and they were doing Hamlet. And in Hamlet there's the grave digger
scene. And the two grave diggers are kind of this comic relief duo. And one of the grave diggers was
getting a lot more laughs than the other grave digger. And the story that I've heard is that there were
kind ofjeleousy issues going on with that. And the next day the grave digger that was getting more
laughs the night before didn't show up for work and supposedly no one saw this person again. And it's
was believed that maybe this individual was murdered and their ghost now haunts the theatre. And the
ghost has a certain seat he likes to sit in, in the balcony and they leave that seat open for him Because
when someone sits in his seat, performances that go on have a lot of issues that arise. Lights that
become unplugged, sound systems that don't work, a lot of unusual technical issues that arise. And so
they try and leave that seat open for this ghost that apparently resides at the Caine Theatre and
apparently likes watching shows in his favorite seat.
So those are kind of two stories I have. ----
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My name is Holly Williams it is May 4,2010 and I am talking to John Reynolds
Hi I'm John Reynolds I am 28. I was born on January 16th of 1982 and I am self empolyed and I am
Holly's fiancee. I am also from Logan, and so I know several stories. I'm going to start with a story r, ~
about the Logan High old boys gym. V
There used to be a gym at Logan High that had a label on the front that said Brigham Young College.
And it was built inlike 1820, no not that early, like 1890 or something like that. Anyway, the gym,
when I went to high school was actually haunted. It had a pool underneath that had a big crack going
through it and so it was not working anymore, obviously. And it used to work when I was little. I used
to go swimming in it a lot, my dad was a teacher at Logan High, and he would take us and I was always
so scared because there were all this scary paintings of like clown faces in the bathrooms and stuff and
it's just the freakiest place with all these bare pipes everywhere and just like rusty cement walls and
everything. Probably the scariest place you could ever find yourself in. Not to mention it's underground
and so it's completely pitch black, really scary. And there were all these stories about people seeing
ghosts down there because students had drowned in the pool. I don't exactly know the story about the
drowning but I just know a lot of people would talk about how they heard voices or sounds from that
basement. So anyway, one day me and my friends we decided to go watch a scary movie in the old
boy's gym, we didn't watch it downstairs, we watched it in the gym part and we're sitting there
watching the movie in this gym and we start hearing all these creaking noises coming from like the
back where it was all dark. And everybody was freaking out. And I was just thinking "it's probably just
the heater ducts moving" because the heaters would turn on and you know how metal expands when it
heats up and it makes noises. So I didn't think anything of it, I wasn't scared at all. But then all the
sudden we heard this loud crash noise of metal and everybody just dispersed and ran right out the door,
wetting their pants. And my friend and I we were like "oh no the TV's still in there" so we went back in
and grabbed the TV and brought the TV out and everyone was just like "I'm out of here" because we
were so freaked out. Even I like, my heart was just like, that was not the heater making noises, it was
like something moved in the back in the dark and made this loud noise and we were freaking out. And
we're sitting outside in front of the school wondering what to do and it turns out that these guys were
setting up for like a school dance downstairs in the pool to have like their dinner in the pool downstairs
for the school dance or something and they were just trying to get in the door and stuff. But that was
really scary. I'll never forget that. The old boy's gym is torn down now and it doesn't exist anymore so I
was pretty lucky to be able to experience the haunted old gym, old boy's gym before they tore it down.
Another story I have is one that I learned in, probably about 2004. I have a friend of mine who was (9
really into ghost stories around here and he was like, "John", he went to high school with me also but I
was in college at the time. And one day in the student center he was like "John I have this new place."
He started telling me about all these other new stories that he knew about, but he was like "there is this
one that is the ultimate scariest place I've ever been to in this area." And so he told me the story and he
told me where it was and so here's the story:
On the west side of the Valley in PetersboIDugb there is this house that kind of stands alone and it
belonged to the family, the Chase family. And there was a father and a mother and their children had
already moved out, they were older, and they had already moved out. And the father was a working
man still and one day, Mary his wife, his name was John and his wife's name was Mary, Mary
disappeared one day mysteriously. And they couldn't find her anywhere. They searched and searched
and they even looked through, you know, through, they looked everywhere they couldn't find her. And
so after years, they just, she remained on the missing persons list and to this day she is still on the
missing persons list. This was probably about in the 70s I think. So they didn't know, they never found
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her. Then one day, John, the father, he started like talking to himself and kind oflost his mind over
time. And his coworkers talked about how they'd heard him talking to himself sometimes and they
could hear him talking to himself inside of his house. They thought that was kind of weird. And then
one day at work John told his coworker that he was going to go join his wife, that he knew where she
was and he was going to go join her. But he was kind of acting weird and he didn't know what to think
of it and then he disappeared. They couldn't find him anywhere. So they looked everywhere and they
found his EI Camino crashed into the Benson Marina, which is a body of water, it's not very deep,
maybe like 4 feet deep max. And so they combed the Marina looking through the water for a body and
they couldn't find a body anywhere. So they couldn't really close the case, so to this day, John also
remains on the missing persons list. And they took the car and dragged it back on the property and the
car is still up there on the property.
So my friend told me, you know, just go up there, and you'll be, everyone will be freaked out because
it's the scariest place ever. So I told them this story, there aren't really any ghost stories, this is just the
story of what happened, very real story. And we, so I took some people up there and I didn't really
know how to get there so I went there in the middle of the day to try to find it, like at noon. And just so
that I wouldn't ruin the whole feeling when I'm like fumbling around trying to find this house at night
time because it's harder to fmd. So my friend gave me the directions, he said that if you're going west,
just past the train tracks you take a right on this road and then you take the second left and go up this
hill. And about part way up the hill on your right side you'll see this lone house, that's kind of nestled
against some trees and it's this really old house made of stone. And so I went up there and it really was
pretty easy to find. And I saw this house and I started driving up the drive way through this alfalfa field
and I got up next to the house and I was going to get out and maybe walk around, check it out. But my
heart was just racing. Mid-day, I couldn't stay there more than two minutes, no more than a minute. Just
immediately I put into reverse and drove away as fast as I could because the house looked so scary .
And so that night I took my friends there. One of my friends started crying as soon as the car lights like
shined on the house, she started crying and people were freaking out, no one would get out of the car.
Usually when I took people there nobody would get out of the car, let alone go inside of the house.
Once in a while I would get a daring group that would go inside of the house. And inside of the house
you'll fmd clothes allover the floors, upstairs and downstairs, really old clothes like old timey
suspenders and stuff. There are like dishes on the counters. There are like beds. It's as if they just left
the house as is and and took off. There weren't any couches there, I assume people took the couches,
but the beds are still there. There was even dishes on the counter. The fridge is like, you can tell it's
from the 70s, trying to all futuristic, you know those round fridges? You go upstairs and there are beds.
And upstairs in one of the rooms there's this creepy children's wallpaper that's like half tom off the wall
with these like paintings of children with empty eyes and stuff, really scary. All the windows are
boarded up so it's completely dark inside. Anyway, it's the scariest house ever. ~
The other story, I have this other experience. The same friend that told me about this house told me
about, we decided to go check out the Weeping Wj.Q.ow one day, and this was when I was in high school
also. So we went up to the Weeping Widow and the story, there are a lot of stories behind the Weeping
Widow, but the one that we were kind of focusing on was how basically she just had several children
that died in their infancy and they were all buried. And then when she was buried with the children,
they had this statue put up of this lady crying, and so hence she's called the Weeping Widow. The story
goes that on a full moon, I think it's just every full moon you can look and see her crying, from her
eyes. Or maybe it's, yeah I'll just go with that, every full moon you go up to her and you can see her
crying from her eyes that are carved out of the granite. So we went up there and we had car lights
shining on the statue and everything and we're looking at the statue, in the Logan Cemetery, and you
know she's not crying or anything. But you could see streaks down her face from her eyes, where the
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stone is stained from like water. So clearly the water runs down that part of her face. So we're like
"that's kind of spooky, I wonder if rain just runs down that part of her face" or whatnot, I don't, you
know, very speculative, not believing. And so I'm looking at the face really carefully and I noticed that
her eyes are kind of glowing and her mouth is glowing a little bit too, as if it had, as if it was like
stitched shut or something, these like glowing lines or like a line between her lips. They were like
glowing and I was like, I like jumped back a little bit and like shuddered, and I was like "oh my gosh"
and so I kind of looked to see if it was like the stone was reflecting somehow off of the lights in the
background down the street. And I looked and they weren't, it was like truly glowing, it wasn't a
reflection. So I like grab my friend and I was like "come over here", my hearts like racing, I was like
"what is this? Do you see this?" and he like looked and he was like, and he jumped back, and he was
like "oh my gosh!" and he got so scared. And we went and turned the lights back on from the car,
because during the time the lights were off. We went, got back in the car, turned the lights back on for a
while, and freaked out a little bit. And then we decided to go look at it again. And then we turned the
lights off again and it was glowing even more after that. And so we think that maybe someone put some
glow in the dark stuff on her face. But who knows, we'll never know. Anyway that's my story .
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Local youths properly taught right and wrong?
To the editor:
After living here peacefully for over 30 years, for some unknown reason I suddenly find myself the victim of several consecutive nights of harassment and vandalism, including screaming and pounding on the house, outdoor planters upset and damaged, large boulders landing in the driveway, etc. While I have appreciated the quick and professional response of the authorities, I am somewhat baffled by being told by two different government and law enforcement officials that “Tuesday nights are the worst because that’s the night for scouting and other youth activities at the church.” Perhaps because I’m not of the local culture, the connection there escapes me, but what does seem clear is that there must be some parents out there unaware of what their kids are doing, and I appeal to them for help.
Another factor may be the unfortunate message, misinterpreted or not, that seems to have been sent by the recent events at St. Ann’s, that teen-agers can do anything they want without fear of any consequences or accountability. This is not fairly preparing teens for their future in the real world and is definitely a problem for the rest of us in the meantime.
Jerry Benbow
River Heights
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Local youths properly taught right and wrong?
To the editor:
After living here peacefully for over 30 years, for some unknown reason I suddenly find myself the victim of several consecutive nights of harassment and vandalism, including screaming and pounding on the house, outdoor planters upset and damaged, large boulders landing in the driveway, etc. While I have appreciated the quick and professional response of the authorities, I am somewhat baffled by being told by two different government and law enforcement officials that “Tuesday nights are the worst because that’s the night for scouting and other youth activities at the church.” Perhaps because I’m not of the local culture, the connection there escapes me, but what does seem clear is that there must be some parents out there unaware of what their kids are doing, and I appeal to them for help.
Another factor may be the unfortunate message, misinterpreted or not, that seems to have been sent by the recent events at St. Ann’s, that teen-agers can do anything they want without fear of any consequences or accountability. This is not fairly preparing teens for their future in the real world and is definitely a problem for the rest of us in the meantime.
Jerry Benbow
River Heights
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Locals react to Logan trespassing incident
Newspaper hasn’t told whole story
To the editor:
It was with disbelief that I read the first article of the incident at St. Anne’s retreat. Who were these guardsmen, and what were they protecting?
My mind began to wander. Was it a drug ring? Were they members of some militia movement?
My disbelief quickly turned to disgust after watching the local news reports. Wait a minute! We haven’t heard the whole story. And isn’t that a reporter’s job? To get the story? The whole story?
You gleefully told us in great detail the accusations made by the teen-agers, while glossing over the fact that they were knowingly and willingly breaking the law. They didn’t just stumble across private property. Every single one of them knew as they were climbing through tall, locked chain-linked fences topped with razor wire and huge signs clearly stating “No Trespassing” that they were breaking the law.
Funny how the other side of the story is coming, not from your reporters, but by editorials and letters to the editor. Somebody at the Herald Journal is not doing their job!
The teen-agers and their parents were quick to whine and run to the press when they felt their rights had been violated. They failed to mention the actual “prank” or the “criminal act,” as it should appropriately be called, they were about to inflict on the property, its owners and the guardsmen that surely wo7uld have violated their rights!
The parents of these teen-agers have obviously failed to teach them right from wrong and the difference between “having fun” and breaking the law.
Maybe that comes from the attitudes expressed by some of these parents downplaying their children’s involvement by calling it a “prank.”
Some of these parents participated in similar “pranks” while they were in their youth. Perhaps if these same parents had been held accountable and taught the seriousness of their actions back then they wouldn’t be downplaying their children’s actions today.
Quit treating these teen-agers like they are the victims, or worse, like they’re the heroes. They haven’t done anything heroic.
I cannot condemn or condone the actions of these guardsmen. I can only imagine how I would have reacted to having 38 people breaking and entering my home in the middle of the night.
Stopping and detaining them would be a challenge. How does one do that? We do have the right in this country to protect our lives and our property. Thank goodness no one was killed.
It is ironic that the guardsmen will be legally responsible for the choices they made that night, while the teen-agers, who knowingly made the choice to break the law, are set free with no accountability whatsoever. I guess whining really does pay.
And now a suggestion to those teen-agers who were involved. Unfortunately, the charges against you were dropped. But if you would like to right those wrongs started by you, how about returning to St. Anne’s retreat, legally this time, and putting in some hours of community service repairing the damage inflicted on that property over the last couple of decades.
Maybe then this whole awful, scary and upsetting incident will be put to rest on a positive note.
Cindy Thompson
Logan
Incident a black eye for law enforcement
To the editor:
This incident in the canyon really put a black eye on some of the Sheriff Department (deputies) for their handling of the situation. Some of our friends say maybe they’d better take a refresher course at training school so they know whom and when to arrest.
Look at the scenario, police called, on arrival they find crying teens, ropes around their necks, handcuffed, with men standing over them with guns and knives, a definite hostage situation, same thing as the night before. So arrest the hostages, charge them with criminal trespassing.
Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Men with guns arrested and taken into custody and the names of the teens taken. Did they have a problem identifying the criminals? Or, as quite a few people are now suggesting, buddies of some officers?
But they go to church, one report said, fine, upstanding men. Tell me about it!
Charges should not be so hard to find. Child molesting, child abuse, death threats, kidnapping (because some of these young people had not entered the gate but were forced to enter, guns held to their heads).
If no action is taken against these men, consider what a dangerous precedent it sets. When you go to hunt, fish, hike, picnic, Halloween, some crazed landowner with a no-trespass sign could terrorize you. But maybe if such a thing happens, the right people will be arrested, charged and prosecuted.
If $100,000 damage had been done by vandals, as claimed by the owner, nothing would be left worth guarding, especially with guns, because it was stated they only paid $120,000 in the first place. How easy to justify their actions and shirk responsibility for this terror on young people.
Blame the young people for things they did not do and classify all of them as destructive and bad. These young people who came there Friday night are good, decent kids. They did not destroy his property and did not deserve the crazed treatment they received at the hands of some morons and at the hands of officers who were supposed to be in control of the situation.
I read the sheriff is trying hard to determine if these groups of frightened young people had threatened the lives of the gun-toting men. Come on, get real.
Faye Johnson
Benson
Guards roughed up by zealous media
To the editor:
The recent incident at St. Anne’s retreat brought to mind problems my husband and I endured with some youthful trespassers when we were first married.
A group of neighborhood kids continuously climbed the apple tree in our back yard and ascended to the roof of our house. They considered it their private playground. They would run around there having a grand dime until discovered.
Our pleadings, threatenings and entreatings that they could get hurt or cause damage to our roof fell on deaf ears. Their response was, “But where will we play?”
There was a public park within a block of our home with a fine playground. So the issue wasn’t really where could they play, but where else could they find excitement, danger and challenge doing something they shouldn’t, while trying to avoid getting caught?
Finally we did the only thing we could do to salvage our sanity, the roof and to keep someone’s child from ultimate serious injury. We cut down the tree. It shouldn’t have had to be.
The father of one of the “St. Anne’s 30” was reported to have said during TV coverage that if the owners wanted to keep the kids out, they could have found a better way. And what, pray tell, wo uld have been a better way? An electric fence, vicious guard dogs or land mines?
Although I can’t recommend all the actions taken by the guards, I can certainly understand their frustrations. With determined trespassers making it difficult for the caretaker to fulfill his responsibilities, and with previous vandalism and threats, can’t we understand his trepidation when 30 trespassers (the age of North Korean soldiers in my husband’s war) penetrated the security fence at 10 p.m. How are those guards to know if these night invaders onto private property were intent only on “having fun?”
These trespassers could have learned a valuable lesson concerning the law: “Want the consequences of what you want.” The incident could have been an effective deterrent for future lawbreaking fun-seekers. Instead, all charges against the teens, have now reportedly been dropped, eliminating those consequences for their actions.
Once the guards have been thoroughly manhandled by a zealous media and by a legal system seeking to appease angry parents, local floodgates will be opened, not just at St. Anne’s, but everywhere. IT’s going to take more than “No Trespassing” signs to stem the tide of disrespect for law and property.
If special consideration is to be given to trespassing teens seeking fun at someone else’s expense, then shouldn’t special consideration also be given to guards who reacted in the performance of duty to extenuating circumstances resulting from an incident they did not precipitate?
Janice H. Keeler
Nibley
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Reactions from locals in the Opinion seciton of the Herald Journal discussing the aftermath of the incident at St. Anne's retreat involving trespassing legend-tripping teenagers captured by security guards.
Locals react to Logan trespassing incident
Newspaper hasn’t told whole story
To the editor:
It was with disbelief that I read the first article of the incident at St. Anne’s retreat. Who were these guardsmen, and what were they protecting?
My mind began to wander. Was it a drug ring? Were they members of some militia movement?
My disbelief quickly turned to disgust after watching the local news reports. Wait a minute! We haven’t heard the whole story. And isn’t that a reporter’s job? To get the story? The whole story?
You gleefully told us in great detail the accusations made by the teen-agers, while glossing over the fact that they were knowingly and willingly breaking the law. They didn’t just stumble across private property. Every single one of them knew as they were climbing through tall, locked chain-linked fences topped with razor wire and huge signs clearly stating “No Trespassing” that they were breaking the law.
Funny how the other side of the story is coming, not from your reporters, but by editorials and letters to the editor. Somebody at the Herald Journal is not doing their job!
The teen-agers and their parents were quick to whine and run to the press when they felt their rights had been violated. They failed to mention the actual “prank” or the “criminal act,” as it should appropriately be called, they were about to inflict on the property, its owners and the guardsmen that surely wo7uld have violated their rights!
The parents of these teen-agers have obviously failed to teach them right from wrong and the difference between “having fun” and breaking the law.
Maybe that comes from the attitudes expressed by some of these parents downplaying their children’s involvement by calling it a “prank.”
Some of these parents participated in similar “pranks” while they were in their youth. Perhaps if these same parents had been held accountable and taught the seriousness of their actions back then they wouldn’t be downplaying their children’s actions today.
Quit treating these teen-agers like they are the victims, or worse, like they’re the heroes. They haven’t done anything heroic.
I cannot condemn or condone the actions of these guardsmen. I can only imagine how I would have reacted to having 38 people breaking and entering my home in the middle of the night.
Stopping and detaining them would be a challenge. How does one do that? We do have the right in this country to protect our lives and our property. Thank goodness no one was killed.
It is ironic that the guardsmen will be legally responsible for the choices they made that night, while the teen-agers, who knowingly made the choice to break the law, are set free with no accountability whatsoever. I guess whining really does pay.
And now a suggestion to those teen-agers who were involved. Unfortunately, the charges against you were dropped. But if you would like to right those wrongs started by you, how about returning to St. Anne’s retreat, legally this time, and putting in some hours of community service repairing the damage inflicted on that property over the last couple of decades.
Maybe then this whole awful, scary and upsetting incident will be put to rest on a positive note.
Cindy Thompson
Logan
Incident a black eye for law enforcement
To the editor:
This incident in the canyon really put a black eye on some of the Sheriff Department (deputies) for their handling of the situation. Some of our friends say maybe they’d better take a refresher course at training school so they know whom and when to arrest.
Look at the scenario, police called, on arrival they find crying teens, ropes around their necks, handcuffed, with men standing over them with guns and knives, a definite hostage situation, same thing as the night before. So arrest the hostages, charge them with criminal trespassing.
Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Men with guns arrested and taken into custody and the names of the teens taken. Did they have a problem identifying the criminals? Or, as quite a few people are now suggesting, buddies of some officers?
But they go to church, one report said, fine, upstanding men. Tell me about it!
Charges should not be so hard to find. Child molesting, child abuse, death threats, kidnapping (because some of these young people had not entered the gate but were forced to enter, guns held to their heads).
If no action is taken against these men, consider what a dangerous precedent it sets. When you go to hunt, fish, hike, picnic, Halloween, some crazed landowner with a no-trespass sign could terrorize you. But maybe if such a thing happens, the right people will be arrested, charged and prosecuted.
If $100,000 damage had been done by vandals, as claimed by the owner, nothing would be left worth guarding, especially with guns, because it was stated they only paid $120,000 in the first place. How easy to justify their actions and shirk responsibility for this terror on young people.
Blame the young people for things they did not do and classify all of them as destructive and bad. These young people who came there Friday night are good, decent kids. They did not destroy his property and did not deserve the crazed treatment they received at the hands of some morons and at the hands of officers who were supposed to be in control of the situation.
I read the sheriff is trying hard to determine if these groups of frightened young people had threatened the lives of the gun-toting men. Come on, get real.
Faye Johnson
Benson
Guards roughed up by zealous media
To the editor:
The recent incident at St. Anne’s retreat brought to mind problems my husband and I endured with some youthful trespassers when we were first married.
A group of neighborhood kids continuously climbed the apple tree in our back yard and ascended to the roof of our house. They considered it their private playground. They would run around there having a grand dime until discovered.
Our pleadings, threatenings and entreatings that they could get hurt or cause damage to our roof fell on deaf ears. Their response was, “But where will we play?”
There was a public park within a block of our home with a fine playground. So the issue wasn’t really where could they play, but where else could they find excitement, danger and challenge doing something they shouldn’t, while trying to avoid getting caught?
Finally we did the only thing we could do to salvage our sanity, the roof and to keep someone’s child from ultimate serious injury. We cut down the tree. It shouldn’t have had to be.
The father of one of the “St. Anne’s 30” was reported to have said during TV coverage that if the owners wanted to keep the kids out, they could have found a better way. And what, pray tell, wo uld have been a better way? An electric fence, vicious guard dogs or land mines?
Although I can’t recommend all the actions taken by the guards, I can certainly understand their frustrations. With determined trespassers making it difficult for the caretaker to fulfill his responsibilities, and with previous vandalism and threats, can’t we understand his trepidation when 30 trespassers (the age of North Korean soldiers in my husband’s war) penetrated the security fence at 10 p.m. How are those guards to know if these night invaders onto private property were intent only on “having fun?”
These trespassers could have learned a valuable lesson concerning the law: “Want the consequences of what you want.” The incident could have been an effective deterrent for future lawbreaking fun-seekers. Instead, all charges against the teens, have now reportedly been dropped, eliminating those consequences for their actions.
Once the guards have been thoroughly manhandled by a zealous media and by a legal system seeking to appease angry parents, local floodgates will be opened, not just at St. Anne’s, but everywhere. IT’s going to take more than “No Trespassing” signs to stem the tide of disrespect for law and property.
If special consideration is to be given to trespassing teens seeking fun at someone else’s expense, then shouldn’t special consideration also be given to guards who reacted in the performance of duty to extenuating circumstances resulting from an incident they did not precipitate?
Janice H. Keeler
Nibley
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LOGAN CANYON NUNNERY AND PARANORMAL EXPERIENCES
McCall Hoggan
Mountain Crest High School
Mountain Crest Folklore Archives
Logan, Utah
Folklore
Instructor: Brad Gibbons
Fall 2012
Accession Number: -----------------
Total Number of CDs in Project: 1
Equipment Used: RCA Digital Voice Recorder VR5320R
Class: Folklore
Quarter & Year: Fall 2012
Instructor: Brad Gibbons
Interviewer: McCall Hoggan
Address:
Informants: Sarah Allison Harris, Jana Hoggan, Jill Froehle, Jared Hoggan
Brief Description of Project: Started out to find out infonnation about the Logan Canyon
Nunnery, but quickly got into stories about Ouija Boards and other Paranonnal Experiences.
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Field Collection CD Cover Sheet 11
Informant Release Forms 111
Collector Release Form XVI
Table of Contents XV11
Cover Essay (Analysis) XV111
• Works Cited XXIX
Autobiographical Sketch xxx
List of Informants XXXI
Transcription w/Cover Sheets 1-13
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LOGAN CANYON NUNNERY AND PARANORMAL EXPERIENCES
COVER ESSAY
Is the Logan Canyon Nunnery haunted? We may never know, but after my brief research
maybe we'll have a better idea of what the answer is. I interviewed 2 people who had been to the
Nunnery, and two people who just had strange paranormal stories to tell. The two people who
had gone to the Nunnery, both said they didn't see anything to make the place seem haunted
besides their own fear that came only because they were expecting something scary .
The Nunnery's real name is St. Ann's Retreat; it was first used as a summer retreat for
two wealthy New Yorkers and their families. They had many guests who came to stay, including
the Czar of Russia. It was later used as a summer retreat for the Nuns in the 1950's and later as a
Children's Catholic Camp. The property has 21 total buildings on it, which include two larger
lodges, six smaller cabins, a pool house, a playhouse, and the swimming pool.
The classic myths of the Nunnery are usually quite similar and go something like this:
One of the Nuns got pregnant and to try and save her reputation and keep her faith she gave birth
and then drowned her new born baby in the swimming pool outside. After doing this she could
no longer live with what she had done, so she killed herself in the main lodge. Another story is
that the Nuns were getting pregnant by the Priests and then drowning their babies in the
swimming pool. There are many different variations of these stories .
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Some of the things that are supposed to happen when you go to the Nunnery late at night
are that if you go by the swimming pool and wait you will hear the crying of newborn babies
about to be drowned. Another is if you go into the main lodge and walk through the building you
will see the ghost of the nun who killed herself.
"You know we didn't see the nun walking around like some people say they do, so we just
basically did the tour, scared ourselves, and took off. "
-Jared Hoggan
I personally think that the stories were just made up, and that it's just a bunch of old
buildings. I do however think it would be a really cool place to see in the day
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WORKS CITED
http://www.deseretnews.com!artic1e/640196655/Legends-surround-St-AnnsRetreat.
html?pg=all
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AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH
McCall Haylie Hoggan was born September 3, 1995 in Logan, Utah. She lived in a condo in
Black Hawk until she was three, when her parents divorced she lived with her grandparents in
North Logan, Utah. She moved to Nibley, Utah in the second grade with her father and step
mom. At this age her two aunts told her many scary stories, helping her realize she enjoyed the
thrill of being scared. She attends Mountain Crest High School where she is a junior in Mr.
Gibbons Folklore class. She has heard many stories of and about ghosts, but has not yet seen one
for herself. She loves to hear stories of the paranormal but, usually isn't interested in going to
sites where known ghosts are located. When she is not at school she enjoys taking naps, spending
time with friends and family, fine dining, and occasionally traveling.
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LIST OF INFORMANTS
Sarah Allison Harris: Allison is my mom, she works at State Farm and is a student getting her
Masters Degree at Utah State University. She has lived in Cache Valley most of her life, and is a
graduate from Logan High School.
Jana DeVone Hoggan: Jana is a graduate from Utah State University, she has lived in Cache
Valley her whole life, where her back yard led right into the River Heights Cemetary. She is
currently moving to Nome, Alaska where she has ajob in Juvenile Probation.
Jillian Marguerite Froehle: Jill was born in Cache Valley her sister is Jana Hoggan, they
played the Ouija Board together at their home in River Heights. She now lives in Nome, Alaska.
Jared Bradley Hoggan: Jared is the oldest brother of Jill and Jana, and is also my dad. He has
lived in Cache Valley his whole life. He has not been quite as into the paranormal as his sisters.
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TRANSCRIPTION COVER SHEET • CD Track: 1
Interviewee: Sarah Allison Harris
Place of Interview:
Date of Interview: October 28,2012
Interviewer: McCall Hoggan
Recorder: McCall Hoggan
Recording Equipment: RCA Digital Voice Recorder VR5320R
Transcription Equipment: Microsoft Word • Transcribed by: McCall Hoggan •
Transcript Proofed by: McCall Hoggan
Brief Description of Contents: Allison describes the time she went to the Nunnery and the
things that happened while she and her friends were there.
Reference: MH= McCall Hoggan (Interviewer)
AH= Allison Harris (Interviewee)
NOTE: Pauses during the interview such as "Umm H are not included in the transcription.
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MH: Ok, when did you go to the Nunnery?
AH: When I was 16.
MH: Ok, do you remember what time of year it was?
AH: It was fall.
MH: So it was cold?
AH: It was a little bit cold, it hadn't snowed yet.
MH: Why did you go?
AH: Well, because my friends and I had heard lots of stories about it like that it was haunted. We
heard that one of the nuns that had lived there got pregnant and drowned her baby in the
swimming pool to hide it. Umm and so we just, everyone talked about it and it wasn't gated off
and like how it has barb wire now it wasn't like that then, you could just walk through the gate
and walk up there so we wanted to go check it out just to scare ourselves kind of.
MH: Ok, umm who did you go with?
AH: My friends umm, trying to think everyone who was there when we actually went inside the
building, cause we went a couple times but there was only one time when we were actually brave
enough to go inside the building. I think my friend Jenny was there and Jake and J.R.
MH: Umm, what happened once you got to the nunnery?
AH: Well like I said we'd been there before, just we wanted to look at the swimming pool. And
we hadn't dared to go inside the building, so this time we were like we're gonna go in the
building and walk around.
MH: Was the swimming pool inside?
AH: No, the swimming pools outdoors. But so we'd been to the swimming pool before, but this
time we had a flashlight and we're like we're gonna go inside and like explore. And ,what's the
question? Sorry I forgot
MH: What happened once you got up there.
AH: Okay, so we decided to go in so we're walking around in there umm just it was scary kind
of because we'd scared ourselves not, I don't really think it's a scary place I don't think its
haunted I just think that we were scared. And we were walking around and our friend Jace who
had been waiting in the car like he was like "I'm not going in you guys are crazy." Umm he
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came up after we had gone in and like did something to scare us like he made this loud noise
outside, we freaked out everyone ran out of the building except me and I was there alone.
MH: Why didn't you run out?
AH: Ugh, I don't know I didn't know everyone was gonna leave. I left after I realized everyone
had gone.
MH: Ok, is that all?
AH: Umm ya, and I ran back to the gate like where he was parked cause I was scared.
MH: Umm would you ever go back?
AH: Oh ya, I'd like to go back in the day time just to see what it's like. I don't think its haunted.
MH: I want to go there too; I think it would be cool.
AH: So ya, I'd like to go back just to check it out.
MH: Ok.
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TRANSCRIPTION COVER SHEET
CD Track: 2 & 3
Interviewee: Jana DeVone Hoggan
Place of Interview:
Date of Interview: November 1, 2012
Interviewer: McCall Hoggan
Recorder: McCall Hoggan
Recording Equipment: RCA Digital Voice Recorder VR5320R
• Transcription Equipment: Microsoft Word
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Transcribed By: McCall Hoggan
Transcript Proofed by: McCall Hoggan
Brief Description of Contents: Jana tells some stories of X whom she talked to on her
Ouija Board, and ofthe possible ghosts that she heard in her home.
Reference: MH: McCall Hoggan (Interviewer)
JH: Jana Hoggan (Interviewee)
NOTE: Pauses during the interview such as "Umm" are not included in the transcription.
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MH: Ok, can you state your name?
JH: I am Jana.
MH: Where are we right now?
JH: We are at my house, in Logan Utah.
MH: Ok. So have you personally played with an Ouija Board?
JH: Yes, I have on many many occasions.
MH: Ok. (Phone Rings) Where did you play with the Ouija Board?
JH: I have played it in my bedroom at myoid house in River Heights, I've played it in friends'
houses, in cemetery's, in various places that we thought were maybe haunted, we would go play.
In those experiences there was one common person that seemed to always come to the board
when we would be trying to talk to people, his name was X he was supposedly the Devils right
hand man, usually whenever we'd be talking to someone or like a spirit he would come and take
over like half way through. He could just kick them off the board and take over the conversation;
he had a very distinct way of spelling things and so we could always tell when he had taken over.
MH: What do you mean by that?
JH: Because he commonly misspelled and abbreviated words, he had never actually been born so
he didn't really learn how to read and write through like a school setting. And so he just spelled
things the way they sounded, which so typically he spelled a lot of things wrong. And then
whenever we talked to spirits who had actually lived, they could spell better and were easier to
talk to than him.
MH: Who was usually with you when you talked to X?
JH: My sister, J~ll, and my friend Zandra were always with me.
MH: K. How old were you when you started using the Ouija Board?
JH: I was 16 and I only had it for about a year, just because I ended up getting rid of it because I
decided I didn't like it.
MH: What made you decide to get rid of it?
JH: After we kind of the excitement of playing it started to die out, I kept it under my bed and
when it was under my bed for about 3 weeks I was having really weird bizarre dreams about
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death and dying and serpents and it was kind of scary. And I kind of chalked it up to the Ouija
Board, so I got rid of the Ouij a Board and I had never had those dreams since I got rid of it.
MH: Hmm, so.
JH: Can you like fast forward it to ...
MH: Its recording ..
JH:Oh
MH: Its ok, so back to X do you remember anything specific things that he would say to you?
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JH: Not necessarily to me, it seemed that he had a crush on my sister which is why whenever she
was around and we were playing the Ouija Board is why he would come in and take over. Ifwe
ever started playing and she was gone to the bathroom or something that's when we would get to
talk to somebody else. As soon as she would enter the room he would take over, and he always
wanted to talk to her. I can't remember some of the specific things that he would say to her, but
kind of that he was waiting for her to die so that he could be with her.
MH: He said that?
JH: Uhh- huh, and it was just really creepy it got to the point with him where he was so, because
he was a very powerful spirit where he was supposedly you know, pretty high up on the devils
list that where he was able to overtake other spirits and kick them off the board and he would
make weird things happen every once in a while. But it got to the point that Jill wouldn't play on
the Ouija Board anymore because it was just getting to weird because he was so powerful and so
possessive that we were afraid something would happen if she continued to play, so she just
observed for a while. Some ofthe weird things that would happen, is like one time we had a
bunch of candles lit and we had asked X when he had taken over the board to show us a sign that
he was as powerful as he said he was. And right when we asked him to do that the candle that we
had at the head of the board shot up really big and all the other ones dimmed down really low for
like just a second then it went back to normal. And we asked him if that was him messing with
the candles and he said yes. And then we told him on another occasion that we wanted a sign and
right when we asked him that, a door slammed outside and there was no wind there was no one
out there, there was no reason for the door to slam especially as hard as it did. And then he once
again took credit for that also when we asked if it was him, he said it was.
MH: Did you ever see him in person, or thought that you saw him or any of the ghosts that you
talked to?
JH: No, well not I don't know not that I know of, I know there's an incidents in my parents
house after we played the Ouija Board where Jill saw somebody she thought it was me, I was not
home no one else was home. But she said she was in the bathroom brushing her teeth, and
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someone came down the hallway to the bathroom and said her name and she said you know she
kind of put her finger up in the mirror and said you know hold on just a second cause she was in
the middle of brushing her teeth and she got done brushing her teeth, she went out there and
there was nobody downstairs, nobody in the house, nobody was home. And she called me to see
if I had come home and left, and I had never been home. And so Jill may have seen him, and that
was about probably the only time except for I used to wake up to sometimes when I would hear
people talking in the hallway but there would be nobody there. But I don't know necessarily who
it was, but I could always hear a man and woman talking in the hallway on several occasions I'd
wake up in the middle of the night and I could hear them.
MH: Were they loud, or quiet?
JH: It was enough so I could hear them but I couldn't make out what they were saying, cause
they were in the hallway outside my bedroom door. And then, because ya where I don't know
exactly what X looks like the one time I thought I saw a spirit, I don't know if it was him or not
but it was really scary. I was laying in my bed and it was one of those weird half-awake half
asleep things, and I dreamt that I watched my bedroom door open cause I always slept with my
bedroom door closed. And in my dream my bedroom door had opened, well then in real life I
rolled over and opened my eyes and there was a man standing above my bed like looking down
at me and I gasped because I was scared and then he like disappeared. And I sat there forever and
I know I was awake when it happened and but that was the only time I ever saw that man, which
could have been him. I don't know, it was really scary though.
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TRANSCRIPTION COVER SHEET
CD Track: 5
Interviewee: Jill Froehle
Place of Interview:
Date of Interview: November 1, 2012
Interviewer: McCall Hoggan
Recorder: McCall Hoggan
Recording Equipment: RCA Digital Voice Recorder VR5320R
• Transcription Equipment: Microsoft Word
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Transcribed By: McCall Hoggan
Transcript Proofed by: McCall Hoggan
Brief Description of Contents: Jill tells about her time playing with the Ouija board and going
to the Ogden cemetery to see Florence. She even talks a little about what some people think are
aliens in Alaska
Reference: MH= McCall Hoggan (Interviewer)
JF= Jillian Froehle (Interviewee)
NOTE: Pauses during the interview such as "Umm " are not included in the transcription.
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MH: Ok, so have you ever had a paranonnal experience?
JF: Yes, many.
MH: Ok can you tell me about any of them?
JF: One in particular that stands out is probably when I was in high school me and my friends
like sometimes just for fun would play on the Ouija Board and there was like you know we heard
weird things about the myths of the Ouija board and anyways supposedly that only bad spirits
could actually or neutral spirits could actually speak through that. And anyways there was one in
particular that would always usually talk to us and his name was X, and in the spirit world he
supposedly was pretty high up there on the, on who was in control on the other side. Or at least
who has somewhat power on the other side, but anyway so his spirit for some reason took a real
attachment to myself and we'd been told from people with experience in the Ouija board that a
lot oftime spirits will be drawn to a person with a very innocent spirit or a good spirit and to be
honest usually when we played the Ouija board I was always saying prayers in my head because
you know I'd get really nervous of the unknown and bad things can really happen. Anyway
during this time, there was one day that I was in, in my home and I was downstairs in our
basement and I was alone down there, or at least I thought I was. And anyway I was in the
bathroom with the door open, and I was brushing my teeth. And in our bathroom downstairs
there's a mirror, a huge mirror above the sink and then, so then you know as your brushing your
teeth you can see out into the hallway behind you. And then there's another mirror, and so the
mirrors can catch you know reflections of each other. Well anyway, when I was brushing my
teeth I heard my name, I heard somebody say my name. And I look up and I just see this
silhouette of a figure and it, it resembled a male figure and I assumed it was my younger brother
at the time, Lance. And I held my finger up to say one minute you know, just give me a minute
I'm brushing my teeth ill be done. So anyways when I got done brushing my teeth I went into
Lances room at the time and nobody was there, and you know the lights were off and I thought
well ok maybe he went upstairs. So I went upstairs to see what he needed, and it turned out I was
the only one home and nobody was home, and nobody had been home. And so it really freaked
me out because you know who or what was it that said my name. And that I could see, and you
know see a figure of. And at that time I kind of related it to that maybe it was that spirit that we
had you know talked to on, on the, on the Ouija board.
MH: Is that the only time that you felt like you saw something, or?
JF: No, I always felt like growing up I always saw things or heard things. But I could never
explain them, and, and sometimes you know theres people that do studies on, on people that for
some reason have people from the other side that are drawn to them, its something that usually
happens to them all their life and you know I always noticed it where ever I went or where ever I
lived. I would usually catch something out of the comer of my eye or I'd hear things, I remember
being young and being upstairs in my parents room and I could hear voices talking to each other
like a man and a woman. I could never tell what they were saying, but I could hear them and I
remember turning off the TV to make sure it wasn't the TV, you know like background noise.
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And then even as I got older, you know I would hear or see things and you know I finally got to
the point though where you know I learned, that you can either draw them more to you by
focusing on that sixth sense that you may have, I believe everyone has that if people start using
theirs and figuring out how to use it and trying to getting in touch with it I think then they can
and are able to connect with whatever is going on the other side, or energys of some sort in this
world. Because you know we know very little about our brains and the capability of what we can
do with them, and we use very little of them. And so anyways my point is, is that as I was getting
older I started to push those notions out of my head and to distance myself from wanting that
connection with the other side. Or not wanting to have that connection and I would say now that
I'm a lot older I don't have those things happen to me because I am not in tune with that side of,
of my soul or spirit anymore.
MH: Ok, so have you had anything paranormal happen to you since you moved to Nome? Or
does nothing really happen anymore?
JF: I don't, I don't think anything has happened up here. I'm trying to think back, I know that
being up here its so different when you have darkness for, for a lot of the time such as in the
winter only getting four hours oflight. I remember well just being outside seems very eerie here,
and there you know are things that go on here that are unexplained. People disappear, people
vanish up here but, there was even a movie based on it. But it was their own theory, but if you do
any type of research on Nome, they do have 20 its standing now I believe at 24 or 25 people that
have never been found. They just vanish, they have, every, everybody, the FBI even has come up
here to investigate what goes on, and everybody has their theory, but I don't believe they know
for sure since they don't have any evidence of what happens to these people. But I for myself up
here or since I've moved here have not had any paranormal experiences, but I haven't for a long
time as I said. Probably you know a while ago they stared to not let my, inner spirit connect to
that other side, and not, because I was always tired of being afraid, or of being, or seeing things I
didn't want to see or catch out of the corner of my eye, or hear things.
MH: So, would you want to tell me about the time when you went to the Ogden cemetery?
JF: That is probably one of the most vivid experiences I've ever had, and that even as I've grown
older and more skeptical of those kinds of things, that is one thing I cannot deny that I, that I did
see with my own eyes. It was, I was in, again I was in high school and some friends there was
five of us and we'd gone to the Ogden cemetery and because there was this supposed spirit that I
mean the corny part was that if you flashed your headlights three times, this spirit would appear
and walk you know towards the vehicle and the two guys at the time that had gone, that had said
they had seen it and then took myself and two other friends along. You know we wanted to see it
for ourselves, we, we believed them but to a point. Because you never believe those things unless
you see it for yourself, and anyway so we went and we drove down to Ogden you know it was 2
a.m. or something and we drove into the Ogden cemetery and we backed up into this corner and I
think you kind of sat diagonal. One of the guys was driving and then, I don't remember who was
sitting in the passenger's side, but I just know I was sitting in the back in the middle so I could
see directly you know between the passenger and driver in front of the car. And we sat there and
they flashed there lights and we sat there for like an hour, and nothing happened. And so you
know while we were sitting there in the dark we were just talking you know as teenagers do, we
have lots to talk about and anyway so then we decided oh we're gonna give it five, ten more
minutes and then we'll go home. Cause we hadn't seen anything, and I don't know ifit's because
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we started talking about like death and how you know we'd want to die, or how we wanted to be
buried, or how you know if that, if that ever happened to us and as we were talking about it all of
a sudden probably, probably ten feet in front of the car there was this three flashes, like on the
ground. A green yellowish glow and it just went FLASH FLASH FLASH! Really quick and we
were, we all saw it, and we, we were all like "did you see that?" "did you see that?" "oh my gosh
what was that?" "what was it?" and you know it like, even right now telling it the hair on my arm
starts raising. Because it takes me back to that point of being afraid of something you don't, you
can't explain, or don't know what it is. And so we sat there a little longer and within a couple of
minutes it happened again, and It just FLASH and then but it stayed. And then all of a sudden
this figure started to rise out of the ground and you could, it was a woman and you could see her
as, you could see every detail. As she rose up you could see her hair and it was long and flowy,
and then she had this gown on like, a gown from you know the 1900' s you know more of a old
style vintage gown and it, anyway when she started to rise up which you know I, I started
screaming. I was scared to death, I was terrified that if she started walking towards the car like
the myth is said too, my fear was I have these, I'm in the middle and I have these people sitting
next to me and what if she possesses one of them. And I just started screaming "START THE
CAR!" "START THE CAR!" "GET OUT OF HERE!" "GET OUT OF HERE!" And everybody
else was screaming and the guy that was driving he started the car, and I remember he turned on
his lights and you could see almost this silhouette and what was even scarier was that we had to
drive through her to get out, and we did, and I was terrified absolutely terrified. Because I could
not explain it, it was a translucent figure but you could see everything. You could see her eyes,
her nose, her mouth, her like I said her hair was long and wavy and, and as we drove back to
Logan you know one of our friends she wanted to go back, she wanted to go back and sit there
longer, and I refused, I refused I never wanted to go back, and I never wanted to see that again.
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LOGAN CANYON NUNERY AND PARANORMAL EXPERIENCES
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Jared Hoggan
Place of Interview:
Date ofInterview: November 5,2012
Interviewer: McCall Hoggan
Recorder: McCall Hoggan
Recording Equipment: RCA Digital Voice Recorder VR5320R
Transcription Equipment: Microsoft Word
Transcribed by: McCall Hoggan
Transcript Proofed by: McCall Hoggan
Brief Description of Contents: Jared tells about the time he went to the Nunnery.
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JH= Jared Hoggan (Interviewee)
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MH: Its November 5, we're in Nibley Utah, its 7:00 at night and I'm interviewing Jared about
the time he went to the Nunnery. Can you tell me about it?
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JH: Va, I was in high school it was probably fall, like September. And a group of friends from
high school who had always wanted to go up there, and check it out cause we had heard the usual
stuff.
MH: What's the usual stuff?
JH: Like that it used to be a, a nunnery or a convent or something for nuns, a summer retreat.
And one of the nuns was supposedly pregnant and drowned her baby in the pool to cover it up
and shortly after they closed it down. And it sat empty for a long time, anyway so a bunch of us
decided to go up there, and you go across a, you go across a bridge across the Logan River and
then down a long wind, you know dirt road down to it. And it was all over grown with trees, and
really kind of spooky at night, and we were there and it was dark. And so we walked down and
there's a big pool, swimming pool outside, and kind of a big building like kind of a, I don't know
what you'd call it just kind of a place where they could gather, and then there was three or four
cabins, smaller cabins around the big building. We went in you know went through it and looked
around, people were trying to scare each other. And that's about it you know it's definitely a
place I'd like to see again especially in the day light cause I bet it's really pretty all the
craftsmanship and the cabins and stuff was really nice, at one time it was a really pretty pretty
place. It was kind of surprising that they would just let it go, and you know let it get so run down
and beat up. There was a lot of graffiti from people who had been in there before us and lots of
damage, broken down doors and stuff like that. You know we didn't see the nun walking around
like some people say they do, so we just basically did the tour, scared ourselves, and took off.
MH: So you don't think its haunted?
JH: No. I don't think its haunted, I think it's pretty cool.
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My reasoning for ‘letting the kids off’
By Scott Wyatt
Cache County attorney
“As I see it, there is only one person who should have authority to initiate and terminate prosecution of a property crime such as trespass. That one person…is the owner of the property.”
Over the past few days, I’ve received several calls from various people questioning why I would “let the kids off” by dismissing the trespassing charges that were brought against them. I hope to clarify some confusion as to why the charges were dismissed.
As I see it, there is only one person who should have authority to initiate and terminate prosecution of a property crime such as trespass. That one person (or persons) is the owner of the property. In a time when we are becoming ever more aware and concerned about individual property rights, it would be an unfortunate state of affairs to see a governmental official, like me, or other community members usurp the landowner’s authority to make these critical personal decisions about his or her land.
When the owners of St. Anne’s retreat called and requested that I drop the trespass charges that were brought against the kids, I felt duty-bound to respect their rights in their property and honor their request. I dismissed the charges. As the elected prosecutor, whose duty it is to serve the public, I, and my staff, will continue to vigorously prosecute appropriate trespassing cases (that are supported by laws and the evidence) when requested by the landowner, and I will also continue to decline to prosecute cases when the owner does not want the matter pursued in court.
There has also been some confusion as to what these kids were actually charged with. They were not charged with intending to damage property or vandalism as there is no evidence of that. They were charged with simple criminal trespass, which means nothing more than they crossed a fence or other enclosure designed to keep them out or they passed a no trespassing sign.
I would like to get back to the question of “letting the kids off.” Forgive me, in this case, for being somewhat of an optimist. But, I like to hope that, despite the owner’s insistence that I not pursue criminal charges, the kids are not necessarily “getting off.” Juvenile court is obviously not the only means of correction for our youth. The primary source of discipline for our kids is good parents. I have personally met with most of the parents of the kids involved in the St. Anne’s event and believe all of them to be good parents who are doing their best to help their kids grow up to become honorable adults. These parents understand the seriousness of what their kids did and are working to discipline and teach their kids with respect to this incident. These kids are generally good kids, and I believe they will respond to this event and their parents’ teaching in a positive matter.
I’m not sure there is much value in attempting to second guess the basis for the owners ‘decision to not have the kids prosecuted. They told me they were concerned that the three men who confronted the kids went beyond their authority and good judgement and that the kids had more than paid the price for their trespass. I respect the decision based on their compassion toward these ids and, based on reports I’ve received from some of the concerned parents, believe that their assessment might just be true.
For the benefit of the owners of St. Anne’s retreat and the owners of other cabins and property in this county let me end this letter with a plea. Young men and women—please consider the plight of the owners of St. Anne’s and other cabins. After spending considerable sums of money and time to purchase and improve recreation property for their families’ enjoyment, they have difficulty finding pleasure in it. Vandalism continues to “nickel and dime” cabin owners to death. In the case of St. Anne’s retreat, vandalism to the extent of almost $100,000 over the past several years. Hundreds of small acts of vandalism, a broken window here, a busted door there, and on and on, add up to extraordinary sums of money.
The owners’ decision to drop the charges here is based on specific concerns about how these kids were treated by the “watchman.” Charges brought against the next group of kids who trespass will not be dropped. Please understand this—I can give you names of people my office prosecuted who were sent to the Point of the Mountain and are currently serving time in prison for vandalism and thefts they committed in cabins in Logan Canyon. We aggressively prosecute these cases and will continue to do so when requested by the owners.
But threats should not be necessary to motivate considerate people. Each of us should make decisions to keep off others property out of respect for their rights rather than fear of prosecution and punishment. These frustrations that owners of cabins have are no different than the concerns of farmers who are constantly rebuilding their fences and suffering other damages from sportsmen and others—or the concerns of people who have storage sheds, cars, houses, bikes or anything else of value. We all own something we don’t want damaged or destroyed by others.
The historical buildings and grounds at St. Anne’s retreat are beautiful and irreplaceable; please leave them alone. Some trespassers might say, “but, I didn’t hurt anything, I just walked through.” Don’t kid yourself, even wandering through the retreat destroys the owners’ quiet enjoyment. Please respect their rights.
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A Herald Journal Opinion piece by Scott Wyatt, Cache County attorney, explaining why he dismissed the trespassing charges against the teenagers.
My reasoning for ‘letting the kids off’
By Scott Wyatt
Cache County attorney
“As I see it, there is only one person who should have authority to initiate and terminate prosecution of a property crime such as trespass. That one person…is the owner of the property.”
Over the past few days, I’ve received several calls from various people questioning why I would “let the kids off” by dismissing the trespassing charges that were brought against them. I hope to clarify some confusion as to why the charges were dismissed.
As I see it, there is only one person who should have authority to initiate and terminate prosecution of a property crime such as trespass. That one person (or persons) is the owner of the property. In a time when we are becoming ever more aware and concerned about individual property rights, it would be an unfortunate state of affairs to see a governmental official, like me, or other community members usurp the landowner’s authority to make these critical personal decisions about his or her land.
When the owners of St. Anne’s retreat called and requested that I drop the trespass charges that were brought against the kids, I felt duty-bound to respect their rights in their property and honor their request. I dismissed the charges. As the elected prosecutor, whose duty it is to serve the public, I, and my staff, will continue to vigorously prosecute appropriate trespassing cases (that are supported by laws and the evidence) when requested by the landowner, and I will also continue to decline to prosecute cases when the owner does not want the matter pursued in court.
There has also been some confusion as to what these kids were actually charged with. They were not charged with intending to damage property or vandalism as there is no evidence of that. They were charged with simple criminal trespass, which means nothing more than they crossed a fence or other enclosure designed to keep them out or they passed a no trespassing sign.
I would like to get back to the question of “letting the kids off.” Forgive me, in this case, for being somewhat of an optimist. But, I like to hope that, despite the owner’s insistence that I not pursue criminal charges, the kids are not necessarily “getting off.” Juvenile court is obviously not the only means of correction for our youth. The primary source of discipline for our kids is good parents. I have personally met with most of the parents of the kids involved in the St. Anne’s event and believe all of them to be good parents who are doing their best to help their kids grow up to become honorable adults. These parents understand the seriousness of what their kids did and are working to discipline and teach their kids with respect to this incident. These kids are generally good kids, and I believe they will respond to this event and their parents’ teaching in a positive matter.
I’m not sure there is much value in attempting to second guess the basis for the owners ‘decision to not have the kids prosecuted. They told me they were concerned that the three men who confronted the kids went beyond their authority and good judgement and that the kids had more than paid the price for their trespass. I respect the decision based on their compassion toward these ids and, based on reports I’ve received from some of the concerned parents, believe that their assessment might just be true.
For the benefit of the owners of St. Anne’s retreat and the owners of other cabins and property in this county let me end this letter with a plea. Young men and women-please consider the plight of the owners of St. Anne’s and other cabins. After spending considerable sums of money and time to purchase and improve recreation property for their families’ enjoyment, they have difficulty finding pleasure in it. Vandalism continues to “nickel and dime” cabin owners to death. In the case of St. Anne’s retreat, vandalism to the extent of almost $100,000 over the past several years. Hundreds of small acts of vandalism, a broken window here, a busted door there, and on and on, add up to extraordinary sums of money.
The owners’ decision to drop the charges here is based on specific concerns about how these kids were treated by the “watchman.” Charges brought against the next group of kids who trespass will not be dropped. Please understand this-I can give you names of people my office prosecuted who were sent to the Point of the Mountain and are currently serving time in prison for vandalism and thefts they committed in cabins in Logan Canyon. We aggressively prosecute these cases and will continue to do so when requested by the owners.
But threats should not be necessary to motivate considerate people. Each of us should make decisions to keep off others property out of respect for their rights rather than fear of prosecution and punishment. These frustrations that owners of cabins have are no different than the concerns of farmers who are constantly rebuilding their fences and suffering other damages from sportsmen and others-or the concerns of people who have storage sheds, cars, houses, bikes or anything else of value. We all own something we don’t want damaged or destroyed by others.
The historical buildings and grounds at St. Anne’s retreat are beautiful and irreplaceable; please leave them alone. Some trespassers might say, “but, I didn’t hurt anything, I just walked through.” Don’t kid yourself, even wandering through the retreat destroys the owners’ quiet enjoyment. Please respect their rights.
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Nightmare in Logan Canyon
[Photo by Mitch Mascaro/Herald Journal. Caption: Cache County Sheriff Sgt. Brian Locke answers questions from parents and youths who gathered at the sheriff’s office Saturday to express concerns about the youth’s treatment at the hands of three men apparently serving as watchmen on posted property in Logan Canyon.]
Trespassing teens claim they were terrorized by watchmen
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
About 30 Cache County teen-agers said they walked into a night of Vietnam-style terror in Logan Canyon Friday night when they were ambushed, shot at, handcuffed, tied together by their necks and threatened with their lives by shotgun-toting private guards.
A sergeant with the Cache County Sheriff’s Office, saying he’s never seen anything like this in 11 years on the force, said an investigation is under way. No arrests were made.
One teen-age boy, allegedly butted by a shotgun, was treated at Logan Regional Hospital and released. Some girls said they were sexually molested and other teens showed wrist marks left by the plastic, store-bought handcuffs.
The Halloween-come-early started about 10 p.m. Friday when several carloads of high school students, driven by curiosity of a “scary place,” arrived at an area formerly called St. Anne’s Retreat midway up Logan Canyon.
The teen-agers told authorities they walked over a small bridge and through a green gate topped with barbed wire when someone carrying a shotgun jumped from the bushes, ordered them to hit the ground, then fired a shot over their heads.
They said three men appeared armed with shotguns with flashlights on the end of the barrels, searched and handcuffed them, then ordered them into an outside, empty swimming pool.
There, they said, they were strapped together by ropes around their necks and told that the ropes were linked to explosives. If they tried to get free, they were told, the ropes would tighten and blow their heads off.
They said they also were told that if they tried to run, the guards would shoot off their legs.
One guard bragged about using the same tactics on Viet Cong in the Vietnam War, said one of the teen-agers.
The teens said the guards posted themselves outside the pool, shouting obscenities and threats at the line of teen-agers in the pool. They said the guards also took photographs of each teenager and took their names before sheriff’s deputies showed up.
[Photo/caption: The barb-wire reinforced gate leading to what locals call ‘The Nunnery’ stood open Saturday afternoon.]
Deputy Troy Liquin was first on the scene, followed by three other deputies.
Deputies said they ordered the guards to cut off the handcuffs and free the youngsters from the neck ropes, then cited the teen-agers with criminal trespass and sent them home.
Sgt. Brian Locke said deputies got the names of the three guards but did not confiscate their weapons. He said the sheriff’s office did not know the name of the property owner who hired the guards.
Teenagers told authorities they were scared for their lives.
One 16-year-old Sky View High School student said he was ordered face-down on the ground as he and several friends walked through the gate, then hand cuffed.
“I thought I was doing what I was supposed to do, and this guy picked me up by the back of my shirt and tossed me,” the boy said. “These guys are psychos.”
Girls gave statements to the sheriff’s office that they were sexually molested by being fondled under their shirts. The girls said they were told they were being frisked.
The boy treated at Logan Regional Hospital said he was kicked in the stomach and knocked unconscious by a glow to the head. He was treated for a concussion and head wound.
Others quoted one of the guards as saying, “I hope you run so I can take your legs off.”
About 40 parents and teenagers showed up outside the sheriff’s office in Logan Saturday afternoon demanding action, saying they were concerned primarily with what might happen to unwitting teen-agers drawn to the old St. Anne’s, also know [known] locally as “the Nunnery,” Saturday night.
“A friend of one of these kids might wind up dead,” one parent said.
One parent from an outlying Cache County town whose son was there Friday night said his main concern is that this won’t happen to kids again. “This is well beyond what is reasonable and what is legal,” the father said. “And I want to see them (the watchmen) prosecuted.”
Locke, the sheriff’s sergeant, said statements have been and are being taken from the teen-agers and the incident will be investigated by detectives.
“This is serious,” Locke said. “I have never seen anything like this in my 11 years.”
“If there was use of deadly force, they will be arrested,” Lock [Locke] said. Locke, who responded to the scene, midway between Card Canyon and the Right Hand Fork turnoff, said it looked like a “prison camp” with the gates topped with barbed wire. “There’s nothing like it in the country,” Locke said.
Lock [Locke] said the area has changed ownership and was under renovation. He said there have been several recent reports of vandalism including one early Friday morning.
A separate encounter about 4:30 a.m. Friday may have been even more frightening, according to statements given the sheriff’s office by five boys and two girls.
They said they were drawn to the area out of stories that it was a “whacked out place” and were accosted by three guards armed with shotguns, pistols and knives.
They said one of the guards pointed a gun at an Asian teen-ager, called him a “gook,” and said, “I know something about you Vietnamese…I have killed many of them.” A guard put a pistol to The [the] Asian boy’s head and threatened to shoot, then discharged the gun into the ground, the boys told authorities.
They said the guards took their pictures, saying, “Sit up straight or I will slit your throat.” The picture-shooting continued after the deputies arrived.
When three deputies arrived in three cars, they replaced the plastic handcuffs with official handcuffs. The youths were then taken by squad cars to the sheriff’s office, where they were cited for trespassing and released. Their two cars were impounded.
As they were being escorted by deputies off the land, one of the watchmen walked behind with a shotgun and another took pictures of them and their license plates, they said. The teens were puzzled that this behavior did not seem to concern the deputies.
“I’m just happy to be alive,” said one 19-year-old. “But I don’t like the idea of them having by [my] license plate number.”
Lt. Von Williamson, who is investigating, said he doesn’t know the details of Friday morning’s incident. But he said, “I doubt very seriously that that occurred,” Williamson said.
The teen-agers in both incidents said they showed up only as a Halloween-time curiosity and did not vandalism
“I’ve been here (in Cache Valley) since the 8th grade and have never been there until now, but I bet every teen-ager in the county has been up there,” said one 19-year-old, referring to the old retreat as the local “haunted house.”
Williamson said Saturday night that deputies instructed the watchmen on the proper use of weapons and didn’t anticipate any repeats of the alleged menacing Saturday night. He said, as far as the sheriff’s office knew, the guards had left the area, although manpower shortages prevented the office from posting a deputy at the scene overnight Saturday.
A press release issued by the office Saturday night referred to statements from teenagers of shots fired, excessive force and fondling of female teenagers.
“Due to the volatility of the situation, no action was taken on those allegations at the time,” the release said. It said evidence will be turned over to the county attorney.
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Trespassers ambushed by security guards at St. Anne's Retreat (1997)
Nightmare in Logan Canyon
[Photo by Mitch Mascaro/Herald Journal. Caption: Cache County Sheriff Sgt. Brian Locke answers questions from parents and youths who gathered at the sheriff’s office Saturday to express concerns about the youth’s treatment at the hands of three men apparently serving as watchmen on posted property in Logan Canyon.]
Trespassing teens claim they were terrorized by watchmen
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
About 30 Cache County teen-agers said they walked into a night of Vietnam-style terror in Logan Canyon Friday night when they were ambushed, shot at, handcuffed, tied together by their necks and threatened with their lives by shotgun-toting private guards.
A sergeant with the Cache County Sheriff’s Office, saying he’s never seen anything like this in 11 years on the force, said an investigation is under way. No arrests were made.
One teen-age boy, allegedly butted by a shotgun, was treated at Logan Regional Hospital and released. Some girls said they were sexually molested and other teens showed wrist marks left by the plastic, store-bought handcuffs.
The Halloween-come-early started about 10 p.m. Friday when several carloads of high school students, driven by curiosity of a “scary place,” arrived at an area formerly called St. Anne’s Retreat midway up Logan Canyon.
The teen-agers told authorities they walked over a small bridge and through a green gate topped with barbed wire when someone carrying a shotgun jumped from the bushes, ordered them to hit the ground, then fired a shot over their heads.
They said three men appeared armed with shotguns with flashlights on the end of the barrels, searched and handcuffed them, then ordered them into an outside, empty swimming pool.
There, they said, they were strapped together by ropes around their necks and told that the ropes were linked to explosives. If they tried to get free, they were told, the ropes would tighten and blow their heads off.
They said they also were told that if they tried to run, the guards would shoot off their legs.
One guard bragged about using the same tactics on Viet Cong in the Vietnam War, said one of the teen-agers.
The teens said the guards posted themselves outside the pool, shouting obscenities and threats at the line of teen-agers in the pool. They said the guards also took photographs of each teenager and took their names before sheriff’s deputies showed up.
[Photo/caption: The barb-wire reinforced gate leading to what locals call ‘The Nunnery’ stood open Saturday afternoon.]
Deputy Troy Liquin was first on the scene, followed by three other deputies.
Deputies said they ordered the guards to cut off the handcuffs and free the youngsters from the neck ropes, then cited the teen-agers with criminal trespass and sent them home.
Sgt. Brian Locke said deputies got the names of the three guards but did not confiscate their weapons. He said the sheriff’s office did not know the name of the property owner who hired the guards.
Teenagers told authorities they were scared for their lives.
One 16-year-old Sky View High School student said he was ordered face-down on the ground as he and several friends walked through the gate, then hand cuffed.
“I thought I was doing what I was supposed to do, and this guy picked me up by the back of my shirt and tossed me,” the boy said. “These guys are psychos.”
Girls gave statements to the sheriff’s office that they were sexually molested by being fondled under their shirts. The girls said they were told they were being frisked.
The boy treated at Logan Regional Hospital said he was kicked in the stomach and knocked unconscious by a glow to the head. He was treated for a concussion and head wound.
Others quoted one of the guards as saying, “I hope you run so I can take your legs off.”
About 40 parents and teenagers showed up outside the sheriff’s office in Logan Saturday afternoon demanding action, saying they were concerned primarily with what might happen to unwitting teen-agers drawn to the old St. Anne’s, also know [known] locally as “the Nunnery,” Saturday night.
“A friend of one of these kids might wind up dead,” one parent said.
One parent from an outlying Cache County town whose son was there Friday night said his main concern is that this won’t happen to kids again. “This is well beyond what is reasonable and what is legal,” the father said. “And I want to see them (the watchmen) prosecuted.”
Locke, the sheriff’s sergeant, said statements have been and are being taken from the teen-agers and the incident will be investigated by detectives.
“This is serious,” Locke said. “I have never seen anything like this in my 11 years.”
“If there was use of deadly force, they will be arrested,” Lock [Locke] said. Locke, who responded to the scene, midway between Card Canyon and the Right Hand Fork turnoff, said it looked like a “prison camp” with the gates topped with barbed wire. “There’s nothing like it in the country,” Locke said.
Lock [Locke] said the area has changed ownership and was under renovation. He said there have been several recent reports of vandalism including one early Friday morning.
A separate encounter about 4:30 a.m. Friday may have been even more frightening, according to statements given the sheriff’s office by five boys and two girls.
They said they were drawn to the area out of stories that it was a “whacked out place” and were accosted by three guards armed with shotguns, pistols and knives.
They said one of the guards pointed a gun at an Asian teen-ager, called him a “gook,” and said, “I know something about you Vietnamese…I have killed many of them.” A guard put a pistol to The [the] Asian boy’s head and threatened to shoot, then discharged the gun into the ground, the boys told authorities.
They said the guards took their pictures, saying, “Sit up straight or I will slit your throat.” The picture-shooting continued after the deputies arrived.
When three deputies arrived in three cars, they replaced the plastic handcuffs with official handcuffs. The youths were then taken by squad cars to the sheriff’s office, where they were cited for trespassing and released. Their two cars were impounded.
As they were being escorted by deputies off the land, one of the watchmen walked behind with a shotgun and another took pictures of them and their license plates, they said. The teens were puzzled that this behavior did not seem to concern the deputies.
“I’m just happy to be alive,” said one 19-year-old. “But I don’t like the idea of them having by [my] license plate number.”
Lt. Von Williamson, who is investigating, said he doesn’t know the details of Friday morning’s incident. But he said, “I doubt very seriously that that occurred,” Williamson said.
The teen-agers in both incidents said they showed up only as a Halloween-time curiosity and did not vandalism
“I’ve been here (in Cache Valley) since the 8th grade and have never been there until now, but I bet every teen-ager in the county has been up there,” said one 19-year-old, referring to the old retreat as the local “haunted house.”
Williamson said Saturday night that deputies instructed the watchmen on the proper use of weapons and didn’t anticipate any repeats of the alleged menacing Saturday night. He said, as far as the sheriff’s office knew, the guards had left the area, although manpower shortages prevented the office from posting a deputy at the scene overnight Saturday.
A press release issued by the office Saturday night referred to statements from teenagers of shots fired, excessive force and fondling of female teenagers.
“Due to the volatility of the situation, no action was taken on those allegations at the time,” the release said. It said evidence will be turned over to the county attorney.
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Nightmare in Logan Canyon - Scare still haunting teens
Youngsters tell of gunshots, death threats and now therapy
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
If carloads of teen-agers sneaked into legendary St. Anne’s in Logan Canyon last weekend for a good Halloween scare, it worked.
They couldn’t have imagined in their wildest dreams that what happened there, in the unsettling October darkness, would be a real nightmare. It is a nightmare, a number of Cache County’s boys and girls say, that still wakes them in the warm security of their homes.
When 6 boys and 2 girls were on the floor of the lodge in the old St. Anne’s Retreat at 5 a.m. Friday, their hands cuffed behind them, ropes around their necks and a burly man with a shotgun leaned down and reportedly told his two partners, “I want some blood tonight, boys,” they thought their lives were over.
Interviews with the youths who say they were tortured and their parents reveal a gruesome script like Hollywood’s “Friday the 13th.”
A 17-year old Logan girl who is a member of her high school drill team was one of the eight youths on the floor. She said she went to St. Anne’s for the same reasons that a generation before her had visited the local haunted house.
“I honestly thought it was the end because you don’t say that unless you’re psychotic,” the girl said about the man’s comments.
Her friend and drill team companion said she thought for a time that her life could end at sweet 16.
“When they took our pictures I got really scared,” she said. She said the only thought that came to her was that the three men with shotguns, knives, pistols and clubs wanted before and after pictures.
“Sit up straight or I will slit your throats,” the burly man reportedly said before flashing the shutter.
The burly man is believed to be John Jeppson, who one of the owners said was allowed to stay at the retreat in exchange for tending the property.
Some of the kids began to cry when the burly man with short, graying hair and wearing jeans and suspenders reportedly wiggled his 10-gauge shotgun with a flashlight strapped to the barrel and talked about kids who never made it back from St. Anne’s.
He could kill them and hide their bodies under the building. He said he had done it before, according to some of the youths. “You know how many people I’ve killed in this canyon? You want to know where those bones under here came from?
The ropes, the youngsters were told, were linked to a fuse that, if they moved, would ignite and decapitate them.
The burly man would leave the room from time to time and the teen-agers told the other two watchmen that they only came to St. Anne’s to get scared and asked if they would let them go. They were told that the burly man was in charge.
“They seemed like they were afraid of him,” one of the girls said.
The 17-year-old girls did not have a jacket and sat shivering. A boy asked the burly man if he could give her his coat and the man reportedly said, “Don’t be a hero,” He kept his coat.
Three of the eight youths were Cambodian, Laotian, and Vietnamese and they said that got the attention of the burly man, who kept talking about his life “fighting for my country” in Vietnam.
When they walked through what they said was a partially open gate with no visible “no trespassing” signs, they were ordered to hit the ground.
“Freeze m…., or I’ll blow your f… head off. I’ll slit your f… throats,” said the man, according to the youths.
He allegedly put a gun to the head of one of the Asians, who was now on his knees, called him a “gook” and threatened to blow his head off. Witnesses heard a shot. It was apparently into the ground.
The teen-agers said the burly man talked of Vietnam and patriotism inside the lodge and told them, “You all look like Vietnamese to me. You mean nothing to me.”
When sheriff’s deputies arrived, the man started rambling to them about this being like troops in Vietnam and “about police powers in the war.”
A 17-year-old girl from Smithfield was among 30 or so teenagers who, not knowing what happened earlier that day, tiptoed onto the grounds of St. Anne’s late Friday night. Before she was brought to her knees in an empty pool with the others, handcuffed and tied neck-to-neck with rope, she was allegedly fondled.
Her father said today the family is arranging therapy for his daughter through the LDS Church.
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Legend-tripping teenagers trespassing at St. Anne's retreat in Logan Canyon get a real scare after being ambushed by security guards.
Nightmare in Logan Canyon - Scare still haunting teens
Youngsters tell of gunshots, death threats and now therapy
By Phil Jensen
Staff writer
If carloads of teen-agers sneaked into legendary St. Anne’s in Logan Canyon last weekend for a good Halloween scare, it worked.
They couldn’t have imagined in their wildest dreams that what happened there, in the unsettling October darkness, would be a real nightmare. It is a nightmare, a number of Cache County’s boys and girls say, that still wakes them in the warm security of their homes.
When 6 boys and 2 girls were on the floor of the lodge in the old St. Anne’s Retreat at 5 a.m. Friday, their hands cuffed behind them, ropes around their necks and a burly man with a shotgun leaned down and reportedly told his two partners, “I want some blood tonight, boys,” they thought their lives were over.
Interviews with the youths who say they were tortured and their parents reveal a gruesome script like Hollywood’s “Friday the 13th.”
A 17-year old Logan girl who is a member of her high school drill team was one of the eight youths on the floor. She said she went to St. Anne’s for the same reasons that a generation before her had visited the local haunted house.
“I honestly thought it was the end because you don’t say that unless you’re psychotic,” the girl said about the man’s comments.
Her friend and drill team companion said she thought for a time that her life could end at sweet 16.
“When they took our pictures I got really scared,” she said. She said the only thought that came to her was that the three men with shotguns, knives, pistols and clubs wanted before and after pictures.
“Sit up straight or I will slit your throats,” the burly man reportedly said before flashing the shutter.
The burly man is believed to be John Jeppson, who one of the owners said was allowed to stay at the retreat in exchange for tending the property.
Some of the kids began to cry when the burly man with short, graying hair and wearing jeans and suspenders reportedly wiggled his 10-gauge shotgun with a flashlight strapped to the barrel and talked about kids who never made it back from St. Anne’s.
He could kill them and hide their bodies under the building. He said he had done it before, according to some of the youths. “You know how many people I’ve killed in this canyon? You want to know where those bones under here came from?
The ropes, the youngsters were told, were linked to a fuse that, if they moved, would ignite and decapitate them.
The burly man would leave the room from time to time and the teen-agers told the other two watchmen that they only came to St. Anne’s to get scared and asked if they would let them go. They were told that the burly man was in charge.
“They seemed like they were afraid of him,” one of the girls said.
The 17-year-old girls did not have a jacket and sat shivering. A boy asked the burly man if he could give her his coat and the man reportedly said, “Don’t be a hero,” He kept his coat.
Three of the eight youths were Cambodian, Laotian, and Vietnamese and they said that got the attention of the burly man, who kept talking about his life “fighting for my country” in Vietnam.
When they walked through what they said was a partially open gate with no visible “no trespassing” signs, they were ordered to hit the ground.
“Freeze m…., or I’ll blow your f… head off. I’ll slit your f… throats,” said the man, according to the youths.
He allegedly put a gun to the head of one of the Asians, who was now on his knees, called him a “gook” and threatened to blow his head off. Witnesses heard a shot. It was apparently into the ground.
The teen-agers said the burly man talked of Vietnam and patriotism inside the lodge and told them, “You all look like Vietnamese to me. You mean nothing to me.”
When sheriff’s deputies arrived, the man started rambling to them about this being like troops in Vietnam and “about police powers in the war.”
A 17-year-old girl from Smithfield was among 30 or so teenagers who, not knowing what happened earlier that day, tiptoed onto the grounds of St. Anne’s late Friday night. Before she was brought to her knees in an empty pool with the others, handcuffed and tied neck-to-neck with rope, she was allegedly fondled.
Her father said today the family is arranging therapy for his daughter through the LDS Church.
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Nobody wins in Nunnery incident
Three men are arrested. Thirty-eight teen-agers have been dismissed from criminal trespassing charges. But what has Cache Valley learned from the incident at St. Anne’s retreat last weekend?
It appears that the citizens stand divided on the issue.
While most agree that what the youth did was wrong and should be punished most will admit they too have gone up to St. Anne’s for some pre-Halloween haunts in their day.
The other half of the citizens believe the men had every right to use the tactics they did. The three men were taking bold steps to defend the rights of property owners who have been continually invaded by thrill seekers.
Some defend the gun-toting men claiming they had no other choice but to detain the youth and protect themselves. Friday evening it was 30 on three. Some ask the question, how were the men supposed to detain the youth and protect themselves from retaliation?
However, the Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt disagrees that the men were justified and felony aggravated assault charges have been filed against the three men. He said the threats the men made, the shots that were fired and the abuse the youth incurred while under their restraint were beyond reasonable force.
The citizens of Cache Valley must take this incident seriously. This is only the beginning of this controversy. What is acceptable? Can teen-age thrill seekers continue to invade property owners’ privacy to fulfil a family tradition? Can anyone owning land and a gun, use any force possible to defend their land? We must decide for ourselves what adventures we take accountability for.
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Utah Statesman article talking about the legend-tripping incident at St. Anne's Retreat involving armed trespassing high school students and armed security guards.
Nobody wins in Nunnery incident
Three men are arrested. Thirty-eight teen-agers have been dismissed from criminal trespassing charges. But what has Cache Valley learned from the incident at St. Anne’s retreat last weekend?
It appears that the citizens stand divided on the issue.
While most agree that what the youth did was wrong and should be punished most will admit they too have gone up to St. Anne’s for some pre-Halloween haunts in their day.
The other half of the citizens believe the men had every right to use the tactics they did. The three men were taking bold steps to defend the rights of property owners who have been continually invaded by thrill seekers.
Some defend the gun-toting men claiming they had no other choice but to detain the youth and protect themselves. Friday evening it was 30 on three. Some ask the question, how were the men supposed to detain the youth and protect themselves from retaliation?
However, the Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt disagrees that the men were justified and felony aggravated assault charges have been filed against the three men. He said the threats the men made, the shots that were fired and the abuse the youth incurred while under their restraint were beyond reasonable force.
The citizens of Cache Valley must take this incident seriously. This is only the beginning of this controversy. What is acceptable? Can teen-age thrill seekers continue to invade property owners’ privacy to fulfil a family tradition? Can anyone owning land and a gun, use any force possible to defend their land? We must decide for ourselves what adventures we take accountability for.
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On John Wayne, Mother Teresa…
To the editor:
Hero? Mother Teresa was a hero! If this John Wayne wannabe fired his weapon, threatened and hogtied the teens as reported, he should be severely punished.
Although the teen-agers did what teenagers have done since teen-agers were invented, they should not get completely off the hook. Although I doubt that a half dozen weekends of community service will have much impact on the next generation of teens, it couldn’t hurt.
P.S. Harmless rock salt loads can have blinded.
Thom MacAdam
River Heights
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On John Wayne, Mother Teresa…
To the editor:
Hero? Mother Teresa was a hero! If this John Wayne wannabe fired his weapon, threatened and hogtied the teens as reported, he should be severely punished.
Although the teen-agers did what teenagers have done since teen-agers were invented, they should not get completely off the hook. Although I doubt that a half dozen weekends of community service will have much impact on the next generation of teens, it couldn’t hurt.
P.S. Harmless rock salt loads can have blinded.
Thom MacAdam
River Heights
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Owner of St. Ann’s Retreat Defends Caretaker’s Action Against Teens
By Tom Zoellner and Vince Horiuchi, The Salt Lake Tribune
LOGAN—A man hired to watch St. Ann’s Retreat felt he was “in serious fear for his safety” when he allegedly tired up 20 local youths and threatened to kill them, said one of the owners of the property.
“He was just trying to sound aggressive,” said Mark Epstein, a San Francisco attorney who has an owners hip share in a mountain lodge and several cabins that became the scene of the real-life nightmare for some pre-Halloween trespassers.
The 50-year-old caretaker reportedly fired guns near the heads of the teen-agers he caught sneaking onto the property in Logan Canyon on Friday.
One 16-year-old boy said he was whacked in the head and knocked unconscious with a billyclub, and a girl reported being fondled when a guard frisked her for weapons.
The head caretaker and his two assistants could now face a variety of criminal charges, said Cache County sheriff’s deputies, who said they will present the case to County Attorney Scott Wyatt by the end of the week.
The caretaker made repeated references to his military service in the Vietnam War, and allegedly told the trespassers, “I’ll kill you like I killed the Vietnamese.”
He also reportedly bound the frightened teens together neck-to-neck with nylon cord and told them it was “detonating cord” that would blow their heads off if they moved—a trick he said he learned in Southeast Asia.
But Epstein said the man has no record of service in Vietnam that he knows of. Epstein said he hired the resident of Pocatello, Idaho, two months ago to do maintenance work and help save the place from vandals.
“He’s someone we were put in touch with by a Mormon youth group,” Epstein said in a telephone interview from his San Francisco office. “He called and asked if he could spend some time up there and go fishing and spend the weekends—basically enjoy the land.”
When called at home, the caretaker said only “no comment,” and hung up. The Tribune does not print the names of criminal suspects until they are charged in court.
His two assistants, who live in Tooele County, could not be reached for comment.
St. Ann’s Retreat, formerly owned by the Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City, has been a favorite subject of ghost stories and juvenile trespassing for decades. Epstein said he bought the compound in 1992 with several families in Utah and California, which he would not identify.
Tying up the trespassers was appropriate, Epstein said, because a group of teen-agers who had sneaked onto the grounds had allegedly been threatening the caretaker.
“I don’t think tying them up was excessive,” said Epstein, who has spoken with the caretaker.
“He had been threatened by the first group, and he didn’t know whether they had come up there with weapons or what.”
Some of the Halloween trespassers said it appeared the night watchmen set a trap to catch them.
When 18-year-old Tito Thanadabouth and seven of his friends sneaked into the compound at about 4:30 a.m. Friday, they found the front gate open and all the “no trespassing” sign removed, Thanadabouth said. The guards later surprised them inside the empty swimming pool.
Thanadabouth said he and his friends then were subjected to a diatribe of death threats and cursing while they were tied by the neck. Cache County deputies were called and the eight were charged with criminal trespassing. Police said they were not told of the alleged abuse at that time.
About 16 hours later, 16-year-old Matt Clark and 29 other young people, mainly from the Smithfield area, reportedly were ambushed by a shotgun-wielding guard just after they stepped onto the grounds of St. Ann’s.
Clark said he was hit on the head with a club and knocked to the ground unconscious when he refused to obey the guard’s order to lie down. His girlfriend had a pistol stuck into her back, he said.
“They were loony, they were out of their minds,” said Clark. “It seemed so unreal to me.”
The guards led the 30 teenagers to the drained swimming pool—the subject of numerous grisly legends—and tied 20 of them together by the necks with the phony “detonating cord,” The youths also were bound with disposable plastic handcuffs and told to remain on their knees for almost two hours while the police were called.
One boy who tried to get away was shoved to the ground and a shotgun round was fired near his head, Clark said.
They were taunting us to run,” he said. “They said, ‘It’s no fun if you don’t run. We want to shoot someone tonight.’”
Cache County sheriff’s Deputy Troy Linquin found several of the teen-agers crying from the tightness of the handcuffs when he arrived.
“As I looked at their hands, on the girls particularly, their hands were turning white in color, almost bluish in color,” wrote Linquin in his report. “Visible swelling as well as red marks were observed on the majority of individuals.”
Several of the teenagers came forward immediately with the story of their brutal treatment, Linquin noted.
Despite this, the guards were not arrested because police needed time to sort out all the witness statements and figure out the truth, said Cache County Sheriff Lynn Nelson.
“We know who they are,” Nelson said. “They aren’t going anywhere. We didn’t want to jump in and make a rash decision.”
Linquin said the police gave a warning about “the use of deadly force” to the caretaker, who was still visibly upset and began talking about Vietnam and how this was similar to troops being placed in Vietnam and went on with some conversation about police powers in the war.”
The sheriff said the case presents an interesting conflict between the rights of trespassers and the rights of property owners.
“The law says you can take reasonable steps to detain trespassers. The question is: Was this reasonable? They were protecting their property, and whether that was reasonable is a focus of our investigation,” said the sheriff, a native of Logan who admitted to peering into St. Ann’s from the bridge when he was a teenager.
Police said there is no evidence the teenagers—who were all given misdemeanor citations for criminal trespassing—were a party to any of the vandalism that has recently plagued St. Ann’s, which is about 10 miles from the center of Logan.
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Reasonable force is questioned as property owner defends the actions of caretakers.
Owner of St. Ann’s Retreat Defends Caretaker’s Action Against Teens
By Tom Zoellner and Vince Horiuchi, The Salt Lake Tribune
LOGAN-A man hired to watch St. Ann’s Retreat felt he was “in serious fear for his safety” when he allegedly tired up 20 local youths and threatened to kill them, said one of the owners of the property.
“He was just trying to sound aggressive,” said Mark Epstein, a San Francisco attorney who has an owners hip share in a mountain lodge and several cabins that became the scene of the real-life nightmare for some pre-Halloween trespassers.
The 50-year-old caretaker reportedly fired guns near the heads of the teen-agers he caught sneaking onto the property in Logan Canyon on Friday.
One 16-year-old boy said he was whacked in the head and knocked unconscious with a billyclub, and a girl reported being fondled when a guard frisked her for weapons.
The head caretaker and his two assistants could now face a variety of criminal charges, said Cache County sheriff’s deputies, who said they will present the case to County Attorney Scott Wyatt by the end of the week.
The caretaker made repeated references to his military service in the Vietnam War, and allegedly told the trespassers, “I’ll kill you like I killed the Vietnamese.”
He also reportedly bound the frightened teens together neck-to-neck with nylon cord and told them it was “detonating cord” that would blow their heads off if they moved-a trick he said he learned in Southeast Asia.
But Epstein said the man has no record of service in Vietnam that he knows of. Epstein said he hired the resident of Pocatello, Idaho, two months ago to do maintenance work and help save the place from vandals.
“He’s someone we were put in touch with by a Mormon youth group,” Epstein said in a telephone interview from his San Francisco office. “He called and asked if he could spend some time up there and go fishing and spend the weekends-basically enjoy the land.”
When called at home, the caretaker said only “no comment,” and hung up. The Tribune does not print the names of criminal suspects until they are charged in court.
His two assistants, who live in Tooele County, could not be reached for comment.
St. Ann’s Retreat, formerly owned by the Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City, has been a favorite subject of ghost stories and juvenile trespassing for decades. Epstein said he bought the compound in 1992 with several families in Utah and California, which he would not identify.
Tying up the trespassers was appropriate, Epstein said, because a group of teen-agers who had sneaked onto the grounds had allegedly been threatening the caretaker.
“I don’t think tying them up was excessive,” said Epstein, who has spoken with the caretaker.
“He had been threatened by the first group, and he didn’t know whether they had come up there with weapons or what.”
Some of the Halloween trespassers said it appeared the night watchmen set a trap to catch them.
When 18-year-old Tito Thanadabouth and seven of his friends sneaked into the compound at about 4:30 a.m. Friday, they found the front gate open and all the “no trespassing” sign removed, Thanadabouth said. The guards later surprised them inside the empty swimming pool.
Thanadabouth said he and his friends then were subjected to a diatribe of death threats and cursing while they were tied by the neck. Cache County deputies were called and the eight were charged with criminal trespassing. Police said they were not told of the alleged abuse at that time.
About 16 hours later, 16-year-old Matt Clark and 29 other young people, mainly from the Smithfield area, reportedly were ambushed by a shotgun-wielding guard just after they stepped onto the grounds of St. Ann’s.
Clark said he was hit on the head with a club and knocked to the ground unconscious when he refused to obey the guard’s order to lie down. His girlfriend had a pistol stuck into her back, he said.
“They were loony, they were out of their minds,” said Clark. “It seemed so unreal to me.”
The guards led the 30 teenagers to the drained swimming pool-the subject of numerous grisly legends-and tied 20 of them together by the necks with the phony “detonating cord,” The youths also were bound with disposable plastic handcuffs and told to remain on their knees for almost two hours while the police were called.
One boy who tried to get away was shoved to the ground and a shotgun round was fired near his head, Clark said.
They were taunting us to run,” he said. “They said, ‘It’s no fun if you don’t run. We want to shoot someone tonight.’”
Cache County sheriff’s Deputy Troy Linquin found several of the teen-agers crying from the tightness of the handcuffs when he arrived.
“As I looked at their hands, on the girls particularly, their hands were turning white in color, almost bluish in color,” wrote Linquin in his report. “Visible swelling as well as red marks were observed on the majority of individuals.”
Several of the teenagers came forward immediately with the story of their brutal treatment, Linquin noted.
Despite this, the guards were not arrested because police needed time to sort out all the witness statements and figure out the truth, said Cache County Sheriff Lynn Nelson.
“We know who they are,” Nelson said. “They aren’t going anywhere. We didn’t want to jump in and make a rash decision.”
Linquin said the police gave a warning about “the use of deadly force” to the caretaker, who was still visibly upset and began talking about Vietnam and how this was similar to troops being placed in Vietnam and went on with some conversation about police powers in the war.”
The sheriff said the case presents an interesting conflict between the rights of trespassers and the rights of property owners.
“The law says you can take reasonable steps to detain trespassers. The question is: Was this reasonable? They were protecting their property, and whether that was reasonable is a focus of our investigation,” said the sheriff, a native of Logan who admitted to peering into St. Ann’s from the bridge when he was a teenager.
Police said there is no evidence the teenagers-who were all given misdemeanor citations for criminal trespassing-were a party to any of the vandalism that has recently plagued St. Ann’s, which is about 10 miles from the center of Logan.
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Paranormal Encounters
Nick Allen
Utah State University
Fife Folklore Archives
Logan, Utah
Mythology:
Mr. Brad Gibbons
Spring 2014
Mountain Crest High School.
• Table of Contents
Release Forms
Cover Essay
Autobiographical Sketch
List of Informants
Item No. Informant Title
1 Hartle Grandpas Ghost
2 Hartle Jump zone Ghost
3 Stolworthy Jump zone Ghost
4 Stolworthy Jump zone Ghost
5 Stolworthy Talking Elmo
6 Stolworthy Bloody Mary
7 Ashcroft Devil Goat
8 Ashcroft The Ghost Door
9 Ashcroft The Blue Beam
10 Ashcroft The Ghost • 11 Ashcroft Green Canyon
12 Ashcroft The Blonde Ghost
13 Ashcroft The Cemetery Ghost
14 Allen Jump zone Ghost
15 Allen Recordings
16 Wengreen The Witch Tree
17 Wengreen The Haunted TV
18 Wengreen Tapping
18 Wengreen Haunted Houses
20 Wengreen St. Anne's Retreat
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• Cover Essay
Paranormal Encounters
Things of the paranormal have always been of interest to me. There is no scarier feeling
in the world than when you experience something of the paranormal. I remember when I was
younger my older brother would always tell me paranormal stuff that had happened to his
friends. I was always so scared but yet I wanted to know more, without experiencing these
things for myself.
My first time ever experiencing something paranormal came a few years back when my
friends and I heard a group of older kids talking about how scary Bloody Mary was. My friends
instantly wanted to try it. Me being the baby that I am told my friends that there was no way
that I was going into the bathroom to try it. When my friend went in there and did Bloody Mary
• I just remember him coming out at a full sprint, that rush of adrenaline that I got just seeing
how terrified he was instantly made me terrified.
Going After the Paranormal
Growing up in an LDS family I have always been warned about going after the
paranormal. So I haven't personally gone looking for it. But I have been with people who have
gone after it. I always try to make sure that I am never pressured into doing something like that.
But it is fun to listen to people who have gone after the paranormal. As Stephen Wagner says
in, "The Risks and Dangers of Paranormal investigations." He says, "Yes, ghosts, spirits, demons
and any other entity can attach themselves to you and follow you home." This is very true if you
go out looking for these things you will find them and it could ruin your life forever. I have
always been careful to not go looking for them. I know that it is very dangerous to go after •
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them. I would recommend that you stay away from this stuff just because things might start to
follow you around, and try to harm you.
The main reasons people go after them
I think that people go after them because they don't know if they will actually work or
not. Well they do work and it is very scary. Like Bronson Stolworthy said, "We heard some older
kids about how they have done Bloody Mary." I think that when people go after them the
paranormal they either continue to go after it or they get really frightened and will never speak,
or got after it themselves ever again.
Why I chose my topic
I'm not sure why I did choose my topic actually. Because stuff of the paranormal scares
me so much. But then I remembered that I really just like to listen to people tell their personal
experiences and just watch as they tell me what happened and it's almost like they are doing it
again. The fear that they get on their face when they are telling it is just so fun to watch. They
also scare me a lot, and it's weird because I don't like to watch scary movies or anything, but I
love to listen to stories. And just so you know I don't go looking for it, it still scares me more
than almost anything on this planet so I like to stay away from it all. But I don't think that there
is any harm done in listening to other people's experiences.
I have always been curious to know if there is good spirits out there, like there are bad spirits that
try to harm you. Is there good spirits in the world that will try to keep these bad ones away from
you and try to help you? Like what is said in " Section 2. Relationship Between People On Earth
And Spirits" Which says, "good ghosts can also visit this world and help you." I think that this is
• true. I have seen it all the time, like when somebody's parent dies and at the funeral or later
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after the funeral they say that they felt their parent with them during the funeral. I have also
heard when people have literally seen there grandparent in their ghost form visit them after
the funeral. It really freaks these people out, but they know that there parent is not going to do
any harm to them, so it really does just comfort them. I also like to listen to these stories of
people whose parents have come back to let them know that they are okay. It really makes me
not as scared of the paranormal. I know that if my parent's dies suddenly I would want to know
that they are okay. This happened to my seminary teacher's son died unexplainably, and the
story of how it happened almost made it sound like a suicide to everybody. But one day his son
came to him right before he was going to bed, and his son pretty much told him the whole story
of how he died. And how his family should not be worried about him because he was alright.
Another reason that I chose my topic is that it has always made me wonder whether or
not that there are more ghosts in cemeteries than there are in houses. I have tried to find
stories of other people that could try and lead me on but I haven't ever really found any. It
seems like most people tend to stay clear from cemeteries. I think just a general reason for this
is that they probably just want to respect the dead.
Paranormal stuff is so great to listen to. You just have to be careful that stuff like this
doesn't start to happen to you on a regular basis. Make sure that the risks are worth it. As yo
study my paper it can help you get more knowledge on this topic.
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Wagner, Stephen. "The Risks and Dangers of Paranormallnvestigation."About.com Paranormal
Phenomena. Web. 19 May 2014.
Allen, Nick Paranormal Encounters
"Relationships between people on earth and spirits" paranormal. com N.d. May 14, 2014
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Autobiographical Sketch
My name is Nick Allen. I am 17 years old and I was born in Ogden Utah. I have lived in Wellsville
Utah ever since I have been 6 years old. I am a junior at Mountain Crest High School. I have 3
brothers and no sisters. My dad works for a company named Barco. My mom is a stay at home
mom. My family loves to be outdoors, we love to go fishing, skiing, and especially hunting. We
love the cold weather. My whole family is a part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day
Saints. My brother is on a 2 year mission for our church in Argentina. My friends and I love to
tell scary stories. My Grandma also loves ghost stories. She tells me a lot of personal ones that
have happened to her. My whole family is very creative and can come up with stories. My
brothers and I used to love when my dad would tell his all of the crazy things he used to do
when he was in high school. We used to just listen to them for hours at a time. My dad's stories
are what got my so hooked on a good story. Whenever my family would go on a road trip my
dad would just tell us stories the whole time that we were driving. I personally love to listen to
stories, but I do not like to tell them. I love to be outdoors, and I always love to go on a run. I
love to go running through the mountains on trails. I also like to hike in the fall and just look at
all the beautiful trees and the colors that are there in the fall. That is one reason why I like
hunting so much, because I get to spend a lot of time in the outdoors hiking. I love the cold
weather that we have here in Utah. Because it allows me to spend time in the mountains with
my family and friends skiing and having a good time. I run cross country, and track for Mountain
Crest as well. I love the valley I live in, it is one of the prettiest places I have ever been. I decided
to use the paranormal stories that have happened to my friends for my folklore project.
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List of I nforma nts
Hartle- Kayden Hartle was born in Ogden Utah, he moved to Smithfield Utah when he was ten
years old and has lived in the same house ever since then. He still goes down to Ogden to visit
his old friends and his grandparents who live down there. He is 16 years old and is currently a
sophomore at Sky View High school. He works part time at the Jump zone. He is a faithful
Mormon. In his free time he likes to dirt bike, hang out with friends, and ski. He likes stuff of the
paranormal. Items 1,2.
Stolworthy- Bronson Stolworthy lives in Providence Utah, and is a student at Mountain Crest
High school. He is 17 years old and is a junior in high school. He has lived here in Providence his
whole life. Bronson is a part time worker at Jump zone. He is a faithful Mormon. He is very
interested in Ghosts and that kind of stuff. Bronson likes to spend his free time, learning new
tricks on the trampoline, hanging out with friends, working out, and snowboarding. Items
3,4,5,6.
Ashcroft- Christian Ashcroft is 22 years old. He lives in an apartment with his friends, in Logan
Utah. He has lived in Logan his entire life. He used to be a member of the Mormon Church, but
he has been inactive ever since high school. He works full time at Taco Time. In his free time he
likes to play computer games. Items 7,8,9,10,11,12,13.
Allen- Zane Allen is 11 years old he currently attends Mountain Side Elementary. He has lived in
Wellsville his entire life. In his free time he likes to play soccer, ski, and run. He is a member of
the Mormon Church. Items 14, 15.
Wengreen- Chase Wengreen lives in Mendon, Utah. He is 17 years old and is a junior at
Mountain Crest High School. He is a faithful member of the Mormon Church. Chase used to live
in Morgan Utah, but he moved to Mendon when he was 9 years old. He has lived in the same
house ever since then. Chase is very scared of paranormal stuff because he thinks that it is real.
In his free time he likes to snowboard, camp, and read. Items 16,17,18.
Wengreen- Dallin Wengreen is 15 years old and is a freshman at Mountain Crest High School.
He is a member of the Mormon Church. He has lived in Mendon since he was 7 years old. In his
free time he likes to play basketball, and read.
• Note- All my informants are middle-class, Caucasian, and come from a Christian backgrounds.
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Item 1
Grandpas Ghost
Kayden Hartle
May 17, 2014
Logan Utah
Context: I was at the jump zone talking to Kayden who works there. We were talking about if
ghosts hang around once they die. It must have been talking about ghosts that reminding him
of an experience he had when he was 3 years old.
Text: When I was little my grandpa died, and before he died he was a mechanic at a lot of auto
shops. For my third birthday he gave me a toy Tonka Truck. A little bit later my grandpa died.
And the night after he died I woke up to a squeaky noise. It was the toy Tonka Truck going up
and down the halls. So then I got really scared and cried myself to sleep.
Texture. I think that this story did happen because it seems like a pretty believable story to me.
I don't think that is something that you would lie about. Because it was already a pretty sad
story because his grandpa died. I've heard that sometimes spirits stay around after they die to
try and comfort people. I really do think this story is true.
• Kayden Hartle
May 17, 2014
Logan, Utah
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Item 2
Jump zone Ghost
Context: I went into the Jump zone and was talking to Kayden. I had asked him if he thought
there was any ghosts in the Jump zone. When I asked him this it must have made him think
about something that happened at the Jump zone.
Text: Before the Jump zone was here the furniture store used to be here. And where the
support beams are there used to be separate rooms. And in the separate rooms there was just
furniture stuff in them. And everyone morning at 3:33, which is the time of the Devil. Every
first of the month the alarm used to go off, and nobody knew why because there wasn't any
mice or anybody in there. So the cops would always have to come and they would look on
surveillance cameras and stuff. And nobody really new why it went off. They just went off every
3:33.
Texture: I think that this story is real. Because the alarms went off at 3:33 and there was no
reason for it makes me believe this story. Also it makes it more believable that it only happens
the first Monday of every month. Because if it happened every morning than you could say that
something was just wrong with the wiring. I think that this story is true .
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Item 3
Jump Zone Ghost
Bronson Stolworthy
Logan Utah
May 17, 2014
Context: Bronson works at the Jump Zone. I came in and asked him if anything Paranormal
takes place at the Jump zone. When I asked him this it must have reminded him of an
experience he had last week when he was working at the Jump zone.
Text: Well um before Jump zone was here there was um different play grounds that rented out
the building, and like gymnastics places and stuff. And there was this little girl that killed herself
here. Um she jumped off the playground and it broke her neck or something. And um its
happened a couple times but, um when I forget something up top and all the lights are off I
come up to get that one thing. And I hear laughing underneath the tramps. And it freaks me
• out because I'm pretty sure that it's that little girl who killed herself.
•
Texture: I think that this story is true. Because sometimes when somebody dies I think that they
stay in the building that they died in. I also believe this could have happened because lots of the
workers there also testify that they have heard this little girl laughing at them. Bronson also
seemed very scared when he was talking about this little girl laughing at him .
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Item 4
The Jump Zone Ghost
Bronson Stolworthy
May 17, 2014
Logan Utah
Context: Bronson works at the Jump zone. I went to the Jump zone to see if anybody had any
paranormal experiences while working at the Jump zone. When I was talking to Bronson it must
have made him think of an experience he had a month ago.
Text: Well one night at the Jump zone the alarms were tripped. And so we went and looked at
the security videos. And for a little while there was nothing, and nobody had broken into the
building. Nobody was trying to break into the building. But around the same time that the
alarms got tripped, um we saw from one end of the trampolines we saw the tramps go in like
somebody was jumping on them. It wasn't going in a lot though it was like a little kid jumping
• on the tramps. It just kept moving into the hallway like over the tramps to where the hall was,
and the front desk. Then the alarms got tripped right as it stopped jumping. Like it had run out
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or something.
Texture: This story is probably true. They showed me the security footage that they had saved
from the night. There really was a figure jumping up and down on the tramps. I don't think that
the workers are trying to playa prank on me either.
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Item 5
Talking Elmo
Bronson 5tolworthy
May 17, 2014
Logan Utah
Context: Bronson works at the Jump zone. I went to the Jump zone to see if anybody had any
weird stories there. When we were talking about the ghost that lives in the Jump zone, it
reminded him of a story that happened at his house when he was ten years old.
Text: When I was like ten years old my sister moved out to college. And she had this Elmo doll.
You could press its belly and it could talk and stuff. And urn it was like a couple nights after she
had left. I got her room downstairs and it scared me because it was down stairs and stuff. That
night I heard noises coming out from the family room outside my room downstairs. I went out
there and it was like the same thing over again, I miss you come play with me. And I went in
• over by the cupboards and I opened the cupboards. And it was my sisters Elmo doll and it was
saying I miss you come play with me. And I'm pretty sure it was because my sister went to
•
college and it was freaking me out. So I went upstairs and slept in my parent's room. We got rid
of it the next day.
Texture: This is a very scary story. It is interesting that it was doing this right after his sister
went away to college. But because his parents got rid of it the day. Because this story happened
when he was 10 it makes it a little more believable because when you are ten you usually know
what is going on very well. I think that this story is true just because there is a lot of supporting
evidence in the Text .
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Item 6
Bloody Mary
Bronson Stolworthy
May 17, 2014
Logan Utah
Context: Bronson works at the Jump zone. I went into the Jump zone because I was curious if it
was haunted. When I was asking Bronson about the Jump zone it must have reminded him of
this experience he had.
Text: Well one night at a football game, we a bunch of my friends, heard from a bunch of older
kids talking about how they have done Bloody Mary. And how you're supposed to say Bloody
Mary three times in a mirror while it was dark. And then turn the lights back on and there was
supposed to be something crazy, Bloody Mary or whatever, and me and this kid named Taylor.
We went into the bathroom, and we turned off the light and we said Bloody Mary, Bloody
• Mary, and Bloody Mary three times. And we turned the light back on and um he said he saw
something in the mirror but I wasn't even looking in the mirror because I was too scared, and
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he freaked out and we both ran outside where all of our other friends were. I was just freaking
out and I was breathing really hard and, all of my friends all of a sudden were like what's on
your neck? And right on my neck, the front of my neck where my Adams Apple was there was
like red markings and it looked like and eyeball. It was like the illuminati eyeball.
Texture: Bronson told me that this happened two years ago at a football game in the school
bathroom. I question the truth of the red eye on his neck. I think it could have been he was just
so scared that's what he thought that it was. His friends were probable just scared in the heat
of the moment and that's what they thought it was .
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Item 7
The Devil Goat
Christian Ashcroft
Logan, Utah
May 17, 2014
Context: Christian and I were at work together in Taco Time talking about all the crazy things
that have happened to us. When we were talking about our stories I think it reminded him
about this experience he had.
Text: When I was a kid I used to play baseball with my neighbor. My house was right by a large
forest. One day when I was about ten years old my friend and I were playing baseball. I was up
to bat and my friend gave me a good pitch. When I hit the ball I just watched it fly into the
trees. So I went running into the trees after it. When I was in the trees I started to look around
for the ball, but I couldn't find it anywhere. While my eyes were scanning around I noticed that
• there was a goat standing on two legs leaning against the tree looking at me. Its eyes were
bloodshot red, and it didn't really have a body, it had a figure. I didn't believe it for myself so I
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called my friend over, and when I pointed it out to him we both took off running for our
freaking lives. I never went into those trees again.
Texture: Christian was about 10 years old when this happened to him. Because he was so
young I question whether or not that this story his true. Lots of little kids think they see things
but they really don't. This story is very hard to believe. But because his friend was also and saw
this goat I think that he is telling partial the truth with this story. I think that most of this story is
real but part if it is exaggerated.
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The Ghost Door
Christian Ashcroft
Hyrum, Utah
May 17, 2014
Context: Christian and I were working at Taco Time together, we were talking about all of the
scary things that have happened to us. I was telling him about weird noises that I've heard in
my house before. It must have reminded him of this story.
Text: One day I came home from a hard day's work at Taco Time and it was about 11:00 at
night when I got to my apartment I realized that I was the only one home. My apartment is
already haunted I think so that made me extra scared. When I got home I was pretty scared so I
decided that I would turn on some music just in case there was somebody in my apartment,
and hopefully they would leave. When I was listening to my music I noticed that the door
drifted open, so I stopped the music and the door closed. When I played my music again the
door opened, so I stopped it and the door shut so I walked into the hall and there was nobody
there. I was so scared that I decided to just go stay in my friend's house for the night.
Texture: Christian told me that this happened to him a year ago in June. When he first told me
this story I thought that he was just kidding. But I could tell that as he was telling this story he
got scared again. When I noticed him getting scared again I realized that he wasn't kidding. I
think that this story is true, because it would be hard to come up with a story as fast as he told
this one .
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Item 9
The Blue Beam
Christian Ashcroft
Logan, Utah
May 17, 2014
Context: Christian and I were working at Taco Time when he told me this story. We were talking
about a dream that I had the night before, and it reminded him of this experience he had a
couple months ago.
Text: One night I was having a hard time falling asleep. When I finally fell asleep I woke up
again. I decided to check what time it was. When I picked up my phone I noticed that there was
a small blue light right on my chest. I looked up at my closet and noticed that was where the
blue light was coming from. I tried to move so the beam wasn't on me but anywhere that I
moved it stayed on me. I felt like there was something very evil in the room. I tried to get up
and walk out but a strong force pushed my down onto my bed. I tried to break free from it but I
couldn't move. All of a sudden I felt like there was a huge weight on my chest that I couldn't get
off of me. Because it was pushing so hard on my chest I felt like I couldn't breathe. I started to
get super light headed. Then I must have passed out because I woke up and the sun was shining
into my window. When I looked down at my bed none of my bed sheets were on my bed
anymore. When I went up to get breakfast my roommates told me that they felt something
very evil in our house last night. That's when I realized that last night really did happen.
Texture: This happened to Christian a couple months ago. It happened in his apartment in
Logan. When Christian told me this story he seemed very scared. Christian and I are very good
friends so I doubt that she would lie to me. I think that he is telling the truth about what
happened to him that night .
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Item 10
The Ghost
Christian Ashcroft
Logan, Utah
May 17, 2014
Context: Christian and I were working together at taco time talking about if we thought houses
could be haunted by ghosts. We were also talking about if we thought ghosts could also be nice
instead of being all mean. It must have been the ghosts that reminded him of this experience
he had last year.
Text: A year ago my brother lost his job and he had to come live at my Apartment. He moved
into the extra bed room that is right next to my room. Weill helped him move all of his clothes
into his room that took about the whole day. Well when we were done and getting ready for
bed he warned me to not be scared of the little boy. I thought he was joking and didn't think
• anything of it. I slept perfectly fine all night and I didn't even remember what he told me. When
I woke up I went and got in the shower. As I walked out of my room I looked over and saw a
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little boy opening the door to go into my brother's room. I couldn't believe it so I rubbed my
eyes to see if there was anything there, and the little boy was gone.
Texture: This is a very interesting story. The fact that his brother told him to watch out for the
little boy makes me believe that this story is real. But the fact that he saw the little boy as he
was still a little groggy makes me not believe this story. I think that this story is real because I
don't know if you can hallucinate seeing a ghost.
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Item 11
Green Canyon
Christian Ashcroft
Logan, Utah
May 17, 2014
Context: Christian and I were working at Taco Time talking about scary stories that have
happened to us. We were talking about if we thought canyons could be haunted by a ghost. I
think it was talking about canyons that made him think of this experience that happened to him
last week.
Text: I think canyons are haunted. One night my friends decided to go have a fire up Green
Canyon. I knew that I had work that night so I tried to get it off. Nobody would take my shift so I
decided to just meet my friends up there after work. When I got off work I just had a feeling
that I should just stay home and to not go and meet my friends at their fire. I decided that I was
just being a baby and started the drive up Green Canyon. I again had an iry feeling about the
• canyon and I wanted to turn around. I decided that I had already driven this far so I decided just
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to gomeet my friends. When I was about half way up the canyon I looked over into my
passenger seat and there was a dark figure sitting in my seat. I let out a scream and started to
head down the canyon. As soon as I got out of the canyon the figure left my car.
Texture: I think that this story is true. I have heard a lot of a lot of scary things that have
happened up Green Canyon. I have been up there myself and I felt very scared the whole time
that I was up there. Because of all the other stories I have heard I believe that this story is true .
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Item 12
The Blonde Ghost
Christian Ashcroft
Logan Utah
May 17, 2014
Context: Christian and I were working at Taco Time talking about if we thought ghosts were real
or not. This must have reminded him of an experience he had last year in his apartment at Utah
State University.
Text: Last year when I was live up at Utah State I had something really scary happen to me. It
was about midnight when I got home from work. To my surprise none of my roommates were
home. I was very scared because my roommates and I have always thought that our apartment
was haunted. I was very scared so I decided to go to bed. When I was in my bathroom brushing
my teeth I saw a girl with long blonde hair go running and laughing down the hall of our dorm. I
thought that it was one of my roommates playing a trick on my so I walked into our living room
expecting to see one of my roommates there, but there was nobody there. So I called my
roommate asking her where she was, and she said that she was at her parents' house for the
night. I thought about who it could have been, and that's when I realized that nobody with long
blonde hair lives with me.
Texture: When Christian told me this story he was very serious about it. It almost looked like he
was a little scared just thinking about it. If it wasn't a ghost it was probably just one of his
roommate's friends trying to scare him. I personally believe this story and think that a ghost
actually did run down her hall.
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Item 13
The Cemetery Ghost
Christian Ashcroft
Logan, Utah
April 10, 2014
Context: Christian and' were working at Taco Time talking about if we thought that ghosts
were real or not. We were also talking about if we thought that ghosts stayed in cemeteries
with their bodies. This happened to him two years ago when he was a senior in high school.
Text: Back in high school me and my friends used to playa lot of games in cemeteries. Well
once we were playing ghost in the graveyard and' was the one looking around for everybody.
Once' found all my friends we were talking in the back of the cemetery. We all started to here
weird noises. So we decided that it was time to leave. The noises started to get louder and
louder until we all just started to make a run for it. 'looked back and saw a figure floating after
us so , started running even faster, when' looked behind me again' saw the figure had moved
closer to us at an inhuman speed. When we got out of the cemetery we looked back and
nothing was there.
Texture: , am not sure if' believe this story. The ghost that he saw was probably just one of his
friends just trying to scare them. And the noises that they heard could have been just the wind
blowing through the trees and the headstones. When it moved at an inhumane speed he
probably just thought it was further away than when he first saw it .
• Item 14
The Jump Zone Ghost
Zane Allen
Wellsville Utah
May 182014
Context: I was talking to Zane about how cool I thought that It would be to have a sleep over at
the Jump zone. That must have reminded him of an experience he had when he was sleeping
over at the Jump zone with his friends.
Text: Are you crazy there is no way I would ever have a sleepover at the Jump zone! Last week
me and some friends decided to sleep over at the Jump zone. Everything was super fun until
about 2:00 in the morning. We were all laying the foam pits, with the lights dimmed so we
could see a little bit, but not so it was bright. We were talking when we heard somebody
jumping on the tramps. I thought it was just one of my friends playing around with us. So I tried
to sneak over to the trampolines, and when I looked at them there was nobody there, the
• tramps were just moving up and down. It was scary.
•
Texture: This happened to Zane a couple weeks ago. This would be very scary especially if I was
only 11 years old. Zane is friends with the owner's son, so they get to go have sleepovers there
a lot. I think that this had to bet the Jump zone ghost that was jumping on the tramps. There is
nothing else that it could be .
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Item 15
Recordings
Zane Allen
Wellsville Utah
May 18, 2014
Context: Zane and I were talking about all the awesome trips that we have been on before. I
was talking to him about when I was in St. George with my friends. It must have been this that
reminded him of an experience that he had.
Text: So one time we were in St. George for my soccer tournament. And we were in this creepy
house that we could rent for the weekend. And it was just really creepy because there was
burnt candles, and pictures of Mona Lisa, and weird statues, and then one night I was sleeping
and then with my brother and then urn we woke up in the morning and he was looking at his
iPod. And he went through the pictures, and there was a creepy, well there was a video, and
then it was of me and my brother sleeping. We just thought it was one of my other brothers
messing around but it really wasn't.
Texture: Zane said that this happened to him last year for his soccer tournament in February. It
sounds like a very scary story. I think that it did actually happen. Because Zane told me that the
recording was recorded at 3 in the morning. He also told me that he was the last one to go to
sleep so that puts everybody else out of the picture .
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Item 16
The Witch Tree
Chase Wen green
Mendon Utah
May 18, 2014
Context: Chase and I were hanging out at his house in Mendon Utah. I remembered hearing
about a witch tree that is up in the mountains above his house. When I asked him about this it
must have reminded him of this experience he had.
Text: Dude the witch tree is definitely haunted. Last week me and my friends were hanging out
in Mendon, we were all super bored and had nothing to do. We decided to get in my razor and
head up the witch tree and see if it is haunted. When we started to head up the mountain there
was no wind at all. When we got to the Witch Tree I went in through the fence, and I kicked the
tree has hard as I could. Right when I kicked it the wind started to blow at about 30 miles per
hour. This really freaked me out so I got back in the razor, and I swear as I turned on the engine
I heard a howl come from the tree. I just bombed it down the hill.
Texture: I think that parts of this story are true. I don't know if I believe that they heard a witch
howl when they were leaving. I think the witch howl was just to make the story seem scarier.
The probably just thought that they heard the witch howl because they were so scared at the
time. But I do believe that the wind started to blow really hard after chase kicked the tree.
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Item 17
The Haunted TV
Chase Wengreen
May 18, 2014
Mendon Utah
Context: Chase and I were hanging out at his house, I asked him if he knew about any haunted
houses that were in Mendon. It must have been me asking him about haunted houses that
reminded him of something that happened to him in his old house in Morgan Utah
Text: Back at myoid house in Morgan Utah, we urn used to have a lot of weird things happen to
us when we lived there. One I just got home from a friend's house and I was really scared just
because it was dark outside and stuff. Weill got home and just went to bed because it was
already pretty late. And I woke up at 3:33 to my bedroom TV playing at full blast. It was really
scary because I know that I didn't turn on my TV, it just turned on randomly. I was really scared
because I already thought that my house was haunted .
Texture: Chase said that this happened to him about 5 years ago when he used to live in
Morgan. There is a lot of things that this could have been. It could have been that he just rolled
over on the remote while he was sleeping. But I think that his house was actually haunted, and
that a ghost did turn the TV on .
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Item 18
Tapping
Chase Wengreen
Mendon Utah
May 18, 2014
Context: Chase and I were hanging out talking about ghosts and haunted houses. I asked him if
anything scary had happened at his house. It must have been this that reminded him of an
experience that he had.
Text: So quite a while ago I was sitting in my bed, just playing games on my phone, and I heard
something, somebody jump into my window seal and I heard the leaves crackling, and then I
heard three loud bangs on my window I got freaked out, so I stood up and ran out my door, and
then I went up to my little brothers room and slept there. Then the next day we just went out
and looked at my window to see if we could see if anyone was there. There was like crushed
leaves on my window seal and I saw figure prints on my window .
Texture: Chase told me that this happened to him two years ago. He also told me that as he
was running out of his room that he looked back and didn't see anyone there. I think that there
could have been somebody there, it was probably just one of his older neighbors trying to scare
him or something .
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Item 19
Haunted Houses
Dallin Wengreen
Mendon Utah
May 18, 2014
Context: I was at Dallin's house talking to his family. I was asking them about a scary looking
house that I drove past in Mendon. This reminded Dallin of an experience that he had in that
house.
Text: Okay so about two months ago me and some of my friends went to an old abandoned
house. And I was with a group of friends, and most of them scattered all throughout the house
going downstairs into the dusty old basement. And me and two of my other friends went into
the upstairs rooms and there was a couch. We saw two eyes poke up above the couch and we
went to go see what was behind it and there was nobody there.
Texture: Dallin told me that this story happened to him about two months ago. The way he
described it to me it sounded like he kind of saw the top of a head with the eyes. I personally
don't think that this story is real. It was probably just an old cat that lives at that house now. I
just don't know if you would be able to see a ghosts eyes in the dark .
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Item 20
St. Ann's Retreat
Dallin Wengreen
Mendon Utah
May 182014
Context: I was over at Dallin's house talking with is family. They were talking about buying a
cabin up Logan Canyon. It must have reminded Dallin of an experience that he had up at St.
Anne's Retreat.
Text: Dude the Nunnery is scary. Last summer I was with my cousins and we were at a family
party, and it was really dumb so we decided to go up to the Nunnery. It was about 11:00 at
night when we got there. When we walked through the gate I was instantly freaked out. We
decided to go by the pool first. But when we walked out to the pool we heard a baby crying, we
looked around and couldn't find a little baby, so we left, and I will never go there again.
Texture: Dallin told me that this story happened to him last summer. I think that it is probably
true. I have heard from a lot of people that scary things like that happen to the Nunnery. He
could just be trying to scare me though. But I think that he is actually telling me the truth. He
didn't really seem like he was kidding around about it either.
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Parents, Youths should go to bat for watchmen.
To the editor:
There have been many thought-provoking letters and commentaries written concerning the Logan Canyon incident. I learned a little of the history of St. Anne’s and why it was sold, and feel sad that it does not speak well for our community that the Catholic Church was forced to sell its property because of the treatment received at the hands of Cache Valley youths.
If adults in this valley were involved in trespassing in their youth, maybe they should not tell anyone or at least express regret and teach their children to have respect for other people’s property. I feel it shows a lack of maturity when adults tell young people things they did that were wrong: it’s like “I did it and I turned out OK, so you do it too”
I am sure there are two sides to this problem, no one really knows what happened up there except the young people and the watchmen. (even the second guy at the gate doesn’t know.) Those watchmen called 911 as soon as they got the 30-plus youth contained.
If they had meant to harm them, they could have kept them for as long as they wanted to instead of turning them over to authorities. Those guards were very probably tired of young people coming the property and thought a good scare might prevent a recurrence for a while.
If the one girl was touched inappropriately that man should be punished, but if he accidentally touched her then it would be just as wrong to accuse him of such a horrible thing. (I’m sure no one was too willing to be tied up.) Did even one parent go to the watchmen and ask for t heir side of it before going to the authorities?
None of us has perfect parenting skills, and even if we did that’s no guarantee that our children won’t do things we wish they would not do.
I feel we all can learn some valuable lesson from this incident and know that it could have been one of our own involved. I would hope that the parents and the 30-plus youth would not be made to feel that they have to keep on hanging their heads.
It is hard to let this issue be put to rest because the watchmen have been charged. Maybe it would be good for the community if the parents and the youths were to go to the authorities and ask that the charges against the three watchmen be dropped—especially since the owner of the property saw fit to have the charges against the youth dropped.
Margaret Townsend
Logan
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Parents, Youths should go to bat for watchmen.
To the editor:
There have been many thought-provoking letters and commentaries written concerning the Logan Canyon incident. I learned a little of the history of St. Anne’s and why it was sold, and feel sad that it does not speak well for our community that the Catholic Church was forced to sell its property because of the treatment received at the hands of Cache Valley youths.
If adults in this valley were involved in trespassing in their youth, maybe they should not tell anyone or at least express regret and teach their children to have respect for other people’s property. I feel it shows a lack of maturity when adults tell young people things they did that were wrong: it’s like “I did it and I turned out OK, so you do it too”
I am sure there are two sides to this problem, no one really knows what happened up there except the young people and the watchmen. (even the second guy at the gate doesn’t know.) Those watchmen called 911 as soon as they got the 30-plus youth contained.
If they had meant to harm them, they could have kept them for as long as they wanted to instead of turning them over to authorities. Those guards were very probably tired of young people coming the property and thought a good scare might prevent a recurrence for a while.
If the one girl was touched inappropriately that man should be punished, but if he accidentally touched her then it would be just as wrong to accuse him of such a horrible thing. (I’m sure no one was too willing to be tied up.) Did even one parent go to the watchmen and ask for t heir side of it before going to the authorities?
None of us has perfect parenting skills, and even if we did that’s no guarantee that our children won’t do things we wish they would not do.
I feel we all can learn some valuable lesson from this incident and know that it could have been one of our own involved. I would hope that the parents and the 30-plus youth would not be made to feel that they have to keep on hanging their heads.
It is hard to let this issue be put to rest because the watchmen have been charged. Maybe it would be good for the community if the parents and the youths were to go to the authorities and ask that the charges against the three watchmen be dropped-especially since the owner of the property saw fit to have the charges against the youth dropped.
Margaret Townsend
Logan
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Point the finger of blame at parents
To the editor:
I was appalled when I read that several carloads of teenagers broke into private property bent on doing mischief. I was appalled when I read that the three guards had to use force to get them removed.
I was appalled when I read how the parents were crying foul and that their sweet children had a few bruises and abrasions due to the rough handling by the guards. And then I was really appalled when I read where the police had caved into the parents and the charges against the teens had been dropped while the guards had to face charges.
Well, that’s America, the land of the guilty and the home of the vandals.
I don’t really blame the teenagers. They obviously haven’t been taught that other people’s property is off-limits. No, it’s not the children I feel angry about, it’s you parents.
What kind of parents are you? Probably you think that because they are your kids whatever they do is all right. Well, it’s not all right. The teenagers broke the law. They invaded someone’s private property bent on mischief.
Today, we worry about gangs, drugs, rape and murder all committed by someone’s kids. Kids who have no respect for the law, just like your kids. Don’t you realize that there is a lesson to be learned from this? Respect the law. Respect the property of others. And respect yourself. If they aren’t taught these lessons at home, where do you think they’ll be taught them [then]?
If they were my kids, I would have been grateful to the guards for this experience. I would hope it scared the kids so they would never consider doing such a thing again. And I would insist that the least the kids do was some community service repairing the vandalism on private property so they could see the work and money that vandalism costs.
And when I got them home, I’d make up for their lack by reinforcing the lesson learned, so they’d never break the law again. But then, I love my kids and I wouldn’t want them to go on to big-time lawbreaking.
Barbara Boman
Logan
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Cache Valley resident points the finger of blame at parents who seemingly condone behavior of trespassing teenagers and do not acknowledge any rights of the property owner.
Point the finger of blame at parents
To the editor:
I was appalled when I read that several carloads of teenagers broke into private property bent on doing mischief. I was appalled when I read that the three guards had to use force to get them removed.
I was appalled when I read how the parents were crying foul and that their sweet children had a few bruises and abrasions due to the rough handling by the guards. And then I was really appalled when I read where the police had caved into the parents and the charges against the teens had been dropped while the guards had to face charges.
Well, that’s America, the land of the guilty and the home of the vandals.
I don’t really blame the teenagers. They obviously haven’t been taught that other people’s property is off-limits. No, it’s not the children I feel angry about, it’s you parents.
What kind of parents are you? Probably you think that because they are your kids whatever they do is all right. Well, it’s not all right. The teenagers broke the law. They invaded someone’s private property bent on mischief.
Today, we worry about gangs, drugs, rape and murder all committed by someone’s kids. Kids who have no respect for the law, just like your kids. Don’t you realize that there is a lesson to be learned from this? Respect the law. Respect the property of others. And respect yourself. If they aren’t taught these lessons at home, where do you think they’ll be taught them [then]?
If they were my kids, I would have been grateful to the guards for this experience. I would hope it scared the kids so they would never consider doing such a thing again. And I would insist that the least the kids do was some community service repairing the vandalism on private property so they could see the work and money that vandalism costs.
And when I got them home, I’d make up for their lack by reinforcing the lesson learned, so they’d never break the law again. But then, I love my kids and I wouldn’t want them to go on to big-time lawbreaking.
Barbara Boman
Logan
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St. Anne’s reaction a lesson in itself
To the editor:
The era in which the constitution of our nation was formed was preceded by many abuses against individuals and their property. Because of this, the founding fathers created the Bill of Rights to help define what “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” entailed.
Article 10 deals with the rights of criminals and those accused of crimes. It states: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”
Several forms of punishments a God-fearing people will always cry out against are: verbal assault (death threats), physical assault and sexual assault. They should not be tolerated even in a parent and child relationship.
I am saddened by the many letters that contend that tie youths who trespassed at St. Anne’s were not entitled to the respect that is due all men, regardless of their crime, because of the sanctity of life which is given at God’s hand. Many have justified their feelings by expressing loyalty to the rights of property owners.”
Let’s remember that the property owners exercised their rights. They pardoned the youths on the grounds of the treatment they had received. I applaud this compassionate attitude. We, as a people, claim that an individual does not have to be tried twice for the same crime. These youths were tried, convicted and punished by individuals, not by a judge and jury; another crime against the form of government we uphold.
Judgements against the parents have been unfair and untrue. I personally know five sets of these parents. If any who have accused them of being unloving and irresponsible lived by them for several months, they would know that nothing is further from the truth. Unfortunately, many judge the character of God by the actions of his children, too.
The greatest tragedy of this incident is not the trespassing or the vandalism (which the youths spotlighted did not commit), but the feelings of self-righeousness [righteousness] and bitterness that have surfaced in the community.
Good parents have been attacked repeatedly, youths have been told they deserve unlawful and immoral treatment, a public servant has been condemned for uploading the rights of the property owners, and a newspaper that has tried hard to help parents protect other people’s children from experiencing similar terror and injustices has been criticized with explosive emotionalism.
When times are hard, the people show their true character. Let’s learn from this and humble ourselves so that future times find us united in brotherly love and upholding the sacred rights God gave us and we are blessed enough to have protected under the laws of our great land.
April Anderson
Amalga
Trespass raises question of values
To the editor:
I moved from California to Logan because I love the area and the values seemed better here. But I was troubled by the incident at St. Anne’s.
The caretakers seem to be the only ones who really learned something from the whole thing. They are being punished and they sure won’t do anything like it again. But what about the kids or their parents?
The kids and parents have not come forward and offered to pay the owners for the damage that has been done by vandalism and breaking and entering at Saint Anne’s. And they have not offered to help in the repairs.
The damage may not have been done by those kids, but that is not my point. I think that paying for the damage and getting involved in the repairs would teach them to value others’ property and to take responsibility.
Richard Primbs
Logan
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Reactions to the trespassing incident at St. Anne's brings out various points of view.
St. Anne’s reaction a lesson in itself
To the editor:
The era in which the constitution of our nation was formed was preceded by many abuses against individuals and their property. Because of this, the founding fathers created the Bill of Rights to help define what “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” entailed.
Article 10 deals with the rights of criminals and those accused of crimes. It states: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”
Several forms of punishments a God-fearing people will always cry out against are: verbal assault (death threats), physical assault and sexual assault. They should not be tolerated even in a parent and child relationship.
I am saddened by the many letters that contend that tie youths who trespassed at St. Anne’s were not entitled to the respect that is due all men, regardless of their crime, because of the sanctity of life which is given at God’s hand. Many have justified their feelings by expressing loyalty to the rights of property owners.”
Let’s remember that the property owners exercised their rights. They pardoned the youths on the grounds of the treatment they had received. I applaud this compassionate attitude. We, as a people, claim that an individual does not have to be tried twice for the same crime. These youths were tried, convicted and punished by individuals, not by a judge and jury; another crime against the form of government we uphold.
Judgements against the parents have been unfair and untrue. I personally know five sets of these parents. If any who have accused them of being unloving and irresponsible lived by them for several months, they would know that nothing is further from the truth. Unfortunately, many judge the character of God by the actions of his children, too.
The greatest tragedy of this incident is not the trespassing or the vandalism (which the youths spotlighted did not commit), but the feelings of self-righeousness [righteousness] and bitterness that have surfaced in the community.
Good parents have been attacked repeatedly, youths have been told they deserve unlawful and immoral treatment, a public servant has been condemned for uploading the rights of the property owners, and a newspaper that has tried hard to help parents protect other people’s children from experiencing similar terror and injustices has been criticized with explosive emotionalism.
When times are hard, the people show their true character. Let’s learn from this and humble ourselves so that future times find us united in brotherly love and upholding the sacred rights God gave us and we are blessed enough to have protected under the laws of our great land.
April Anderson
Amalga
Trespass raises question of values
To the editor:
I moved from California to Logan because I love the area and the values seemed better here. But I was troubled by the incident at St. Anne’s.
The caretakers seem to be the only ones who really learned something from the whole thing. They are being punished and they sure won’t do anything like it again. But what about the kids or their parents?
The kids and parents have not come forward and offered to pay the owners for the damage that has been done by vandalism and breaking and entering at Saint Anne’s. And they have not offered to help in the repairs.
The damage may not have been done by those kids, but that is not my point. I think that paying for the damage and getting involved in the repairs would teach them to value others’ property and to take responsibility.
Richard Primbs
Logan
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Retreat caretaker arrested on six assault charges
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
A watchman accused of terrorizing 38 trespassers at the former St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon was arrested Monday afternoon by a Cache county lieutenant sheriff.
John Jeppson, 50, of Pocatello, Idaho, was arrested at his parents’ home in Providence by Lt. Von Williamson, the lead investigator.
Warrants for the arrest of two other watchmen suspected of assisting Jeppson have been forwarded to Tooele County. The other men have been identified as Arthur Peasnall and Christopher Doerr, Jeppson’s son-in-law, both of Tooele County.
The suspects in the case have each been charged with six counts of aggravated assault, a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in jail for each count.
Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt said he chose to file six counts because it was a “representative sample” of what happened Oct. 10. He said the number was also agreed upon by a group of parents of the alleged victims he met with last week.
Six charges, he said, “was sufficient for every aspect of the trial.”
Wyatt said he will also name only six alleged victims to testify for the state during trial. He said he didn’t want to needlessly stack dozens of charges and witness testimonials against the men.
The trespassers have accused the three watchmen of tying them together by their necks, handcuffing them and holding them at gunpoint in a swimming pool in two separate episodes Oct. 10. The mostly teen-aged victims said their lives were threatened, shotguns were fired near them, and one female said Jeppson felt her up.
“If these gentlemen had handcuffed them and secured them and stopped there, we probably wouldn’t be filing charges,” Wyatt said. “You’re entitled to use a reasonable amount of force to protect property.” But Wyatt said the men acted beyond what the law allows.
The sheriff’s office originally cited all 38 trespassers, but the trespassing charges were not filed. Property owners who allowed Jeppson to tend the St. Anne’s property were sympathetic to the treatment they received at the hands of the watchmen, Wyatt said.
Jeppson was released from the Cache County Jail on Monday on a $5,000 bail.
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Caretaker arrested on assault charges for his part in armed standoff at St. Anne’s Retreat involving 38 trespassing high school students.
Retreat caretaker arrested on six assault charges
By Ryan Robb Oliver
Staff writer
A watchman accused of terrorizing 38 trespassers at the former St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon was arrested Monday afternoon by a Cache county lieutenant sheriff.
John Jeppson, 50, of Pocatello, Idaho, was arrested at his parents’ home in Providence by Lt. Von Williamson, the lead investigator.
Warrants for the arrest of two other watchmen suspected of assisting Jeppson have been forwarded to Tooele County. The other men have been identified as Arthur Peasnall and Christopher Doerr, Jeppson’s son-in-law, both of Tooele County.
The suspects in the case have each been charged with six counts of aggravated assault, a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in jail for each count.
Cache County Attorney Scott Wyatt said he chose to file six counts because it was a “representative sample” of what happened Oct. 10. He said the number was also agreed upon by a group of parents of the alleged victims he met with last week.
Six charges, he said, “was sufficient for every aspect of the trial.”
Wyatt said he will also name only six alleged victims to testify for the state during trial. He said he didn’t want to needlessly stack dozens of charges and witness testimonials against the men.
The trespassers have accused the three watchmen of tying them together by their necks, handcuffing them and holding them at gunpoint in a swimming pool in two separate episodes Oct. 10. The mostly teen-aged victims said their lives were threatened, shotguns were fired near them, and one female said Jeppson felt her up.
“If these gentlemen had handcuffed them and secured them and stopped there, we probably wouldn’t be filing charges,” Wyatt said. “You’re entitled to use a reasonable amount of force to protect property.” But Wyatt said the men acted beyond what the law allows.
The sheriff’s office originally cited all 38 trespassers, but the trespassing charges were not filed. Property owners who allowed Jeppson to tend the St. Anne’s property were sympathetic to the treatment they received at the hands of the watchmen, Wyatt said.
Jeppson was released from the Cache County Jail on Monday on a $5,000 bail.
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Retreat trio
John Jeppson, center, walks with Chris Doerr and Arthur Peasnall on 100 North in Logan after leaving his arraignment hearing today. The three men are accused of terrorizing 38 trespassers at the St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon on Oct. 11. In court, a motion was made to continue the arraignment on Nov. 24. Attorneys for the suspects claimed the state hasn’t released all the evidence yet. The men have not yet entered their pleas.
[By Ryan Robb Oliver/Herald Journal]
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Retreat trio
John Jeppson, center, walks with Chris Doerr and Arthur Peasnall on 100 North in Logan after leaving his arraignment hearing today. The three men are accused of terrorizing 38 trespassers at the St. Anne’s Retreat in Logan Canyon on Oct. 11. In court, a motion was made to continue the arraignment on Nov. 24. Attorneys for the suspects claimed the state hasn’t released all the evidence yet. The men have not yet entered their pleas.
[By Ryan Robb Oliver/Herald Journal]
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Saint Anne trio trial date set for June 8
Early date to insure [ensure] teens will be in valley
By Jacob Santini
Senior News Writer
The three men accused of assaulting 30 high school students in Cache Valley were back in court Monday.
John Jeppson, Christopher Doerr and Arthur Peasnall were in Logan’s First District Court to be arraigned for six counts of aggravated assault. Jeppson has also been charged with one count of forcible sexual assault.
The alleged crime occurred on the night of Oct. 10, when the three men restrained 30 teenagers at a one time Catholic retreat in Logan Canyon.
According to testimony heard in a preliminary hearing, the teenagers were trespassing on the property because they had heard St. Anne’s retreat was haunted and wanted to check it out.
When the three men heard the teenagers on the property they surrounded them with shotguns and handcuffed them together. Once they were restrained the men made the teens sit in an empty swimming pool with a rope wrapped around their necks, according to information obtained from the case file.
Deputy Cache County Attorney Bruce Ward said the trial needs to be held as soon as possible.
“Some of the victims are leaving Utah this summer because they have been accepted to universities in Texas and Virginia,” Ward said. “There are also a number that are leaving on missions for the Church of Jesus Christ (of Latter-day Saints).”
Judge Clint Judkins set the trial to begin June 8, to insure [ensure] that all the alleged victims will be in Cache Valley at the time of the trial.
During Monday’s arraignment, Barbra Lochmar, defense attorney for Doerr told Judkins that change in venue will be expected because of the publicity the case has seen.
In response Ward said, “I think we need to at least try to select a jury before we make a decision for a change of venue.”
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Saint Anne trio trial date set for June 8
Early date to insure [ensure] teens will be in valley
By Jacob Santini
Senior News Writer
The three men accused of assaulting 30 high school students in Cache Valley were back in court Monday.
John Jeppson, Christopher Doerr and Arthur Peasnall were in Logan’s First District Court to be arraigned for six counts of aggravated assault. Jeppson has also been charged with one count of forcible sexual assault.
The alleged crime occurred on the night of Oct. 10, when the three men restrained 30 teenagers at a one time Catholic retreat in Logan Canyon.
According to testimony heard in a preliminary hearing, the teenagers were trespassing on the property because they had heard St. Anne’s retreat was haunted and wanted to check it out.
When the three men heard the teenagers on the property they surrounded them with shotguns and handcuffed them together. Once they were restrained the men made the teens sit in an empty swimming pool with a rope wrapped around their necks, according to information obtained from the case file.
Deputy Cache County Attorney Bruce Ward said the trial needs to be held as soon as possible.
“Some of the victims are leaving Utah this summer because they have been accepted to universities in Texas and Virginia,” Ward said. “There are also a number that are leaving on missions for the Church of Jesus Christ (of Latter-day Saints).”
Judge Clint Judkins set the trial to begin June 8, to insure [ensure] that all the alleged victims will be in Cache Valley at the time of the trial.
During Monday’s arraignment, Barbra Lochmar, defense attorney for Doerr told Judkins that change in venue will be expected because of the publicity the case has seen.
In response Ward said, “I think we need to at least try to select a jury before we make a decision for a change of venue.”
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Personal narrative from interviewees who describe their experience legend-tripping at St. Anne's retreat.
Saint Anne's retreat
Martin Tige
Utah State University
Fife Folklore Archives
Logan, Utah
Mythology /Fol klore
Instructor: Brad Gibbons
Trimester 3, 2013
Mountain Crest High School
Hyrum, Utah
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Table of Contents
Field Collection CD Cover Sheet
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Informant Release forms
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Collectors Release form
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Table of contents
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Cover Essay
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Autobiographical Sketch
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list of informants
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Cover Essay
ST. Anne's Retreat
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Now just a week ago, I knew not even the name St. Anne's retreat. But this past week, I
have visited the place that so many spirits call home. I myself am not much of an adventurist
paranormal wise. Just the mentioning of a spirit and I would nearly run for the hills. The story
behind St. Anne's retreat however intrigued me. A friend of mine named Silver Pena told me that
she had been researching about a place in Logan canyon called The Nunnery. She told me that
there had been many stories but the only story she had told me that really had me hooked, was a
particular story about how Christens used this camp for impregnated nuns. In this particular time
children born by nuns were believed to have been the work of satin, they were to be disposed of
at birth so that they had no chance to do damage to this world. One particular nun however felt
the need to keep her child, so she decided before the birth of this child, she was going to run
away. From the start, the head nun had suspected that this nun would have second thoughts so
she had decided to keep a close eye on her. When she had finally put her plan into motion, the
head nun was not too far behind. Realizing this once she had given birth to her child, she thought
to hide the child in some bushes and lead the head nun away and pick up her child at a later time.
Soon the head nun gave up, or so she thought, going back to pick up her child she was astonished
to find that her child was missing. She, went back to the camp and as she approached the camp
there was a peculiar object floating on the far north side of the pool. As she came to focus in on
the object she had a sense of recognition. Once she could see the object in full she saw that it was
her child lying face down, no more than a lifeless corps. All of the grief due to this event caused
• the nun to go insane and later commit suicide.
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The property though is owned privately, meaning people are unable to visit this place of
folklore. "a former Catholic summer camp located a few miles up the canyon from Logan, Utah,
where
some young people were charged with trespass not long ago"(Toelken). I feel this place of
historic event should be given to the public however with some restrictions some people chose
to disrespect abandon private properties. I feel they should open it up almost as a museum just
for people who are just like me who would like to experience the chill, to be in the same place as
these said sprits and learn things first or in this case second hand. Honestly they could even make
a profit off of the place selling admission tickets.
What makes this place so great? Well there are many different things that are being held
behind the walls ofSt. Anne's Retreat. This place to me was a battle ground, nuns stayed here
fighting for the lives of not only themselves but for the children that they had brought into this
world. The pool at St. Anne's has taken many lives but has little to offer, visiting it, there is said
to be a cold spot in the pool where a particular nun has committed the ultimate sin, which is not
taking the lives of others but taking her own life. In sprit she sits at the edge of north comer of
that pool grieving for her lost child. Not only is there that, but in the basement of some of the
cabins there's said to have been rituals to have been taken place here.
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Work Cited
Toelken, Barre. "The end of folklore. The 1998 Archer Taylor memorial lecture." Western folklore 57.2/3
(1998): 81-101 .
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AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH
Martin Stephanus Tige was born January 6, 1996 in Sudan, Africa. He moved into the United
States in the year of 1999 in search of a better life, he soon found himself living in the state of
Utah. As a young boy Martin was very curious about how many things worked, taking apart
nearly four VHS players and almost able to reassemble the mechanism by age seven. He mainly
grew up all over the small cities of Utah but always somehow ended up in Rose Park. He
attended four elementary schools, two middle schools and two high schools, soon to be a
graduate from Mountain Crest High school. Martin was never academically the smartest kid but
was a quick learner when it came to hands on projects. This led him into High School Clubs such
as the Mountain Crest Robotic team, as the head designer and builder in his team. His
fascination however has nothing to do with what his dreams are. Martin hopes to become a
Law Enforcement after graduating from High School.
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List of informants
Silver Pena: Silver has attended Mountain Crest high school since sophomore
year and is hope in make her way into music. She has and outgoing personality
and is almost always caring for others
Camila Triana: Camila has also attended Mountain Crest but only for sophomore
year, then later moving to Intec High near USU (Utah State University)
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St. Anne's Retreat
Transcription cover sheet
Interviewee: Camila Triana & Silver Pena
Place of Interview: Hyrum library
Interviewer: Martin Tige
Recorder: Martin Tige
Recording Equipment: Iphone 4, voice memo
Transcription Equipment: Microsoft Word
Transcribed by: Martin Tige
Brief Description of Contents: Silver gives brief interdiction about St. Anne's Retreat.
Camila explains in detail the tour that we had toke a week before
Reference: MT: Martin Tige
CT: Camila Triana
SP: Silver Pena
Note: as we had the interview there was some laughing in the background and also
people were moving around .
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Transcription Paper
Martin Tige - MT
Camila Triana - CT
Silver Penia - SP
MT: So today's May 17, and we're at the Hyrum library; the weather outsides pretty good, looks
like its about to rain though. And I'm here with Camila Triana, and Silver Penia and we're here
talking about The Nunnery or better known as St. Anne's Retreat; so what's the story behind St.
Anne's' retreat, like how did it become known that way?
( brief pause)
SP: well um, there's many stories to it and the one I became mostly familiar with or the one I
heard a lot of was, it first stared as a camp and I don't remember the exact name of the camp
but .. um a famous building person he created it for a summer camp for him and his family so its
more like a summer home. and there are tons and tons of cabins in there and then after that he
gave it to his son who was living in New York at the time and his son was really famous here in
America cause he was one of the wealthiest guys, and because of him-because of him being so
recognized in the nation a lot of Hollywood movie stars asked him permission to use it as a
summer home just a place to get away and one of the stars herself was Marilyn Monroe she
stayed in one ofthe cabins, (chuckle) I don't know which cabin exact but she was one ofthe
famous people here .. Um later after they were done using it, he. Tried to give it, he tried to sell
it to the LOS church but they didn't want it and he tried the same with jahobo Witness and they
didn't want it so he ended up donating it to the Catholic church and they used it; well theres
different versions of this they say that they used it as an abortion clinic for teenagers or a clinic
where they'd have their babies and um they'd put them up for adoption. And as for the nuns,
the other version is that nuns who got pregnant they would be sent there in secret and they,
once they had their babies, they would be drown in the bathtubs which were supposedly filled
with holly water (brief pause) um so yeah.
MT: Kay, now you've been there ten- eleven times?
SP: (chuckling) Eleven times
MT: and every single time you've token a different group of people.
SP: um hm
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• MT: What's the pool. The cold spot in the pool?
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SP: the cold spot. Urn there's, they say like theres always a different version to everything but
for the pool urn. It was actually open I think thirteen years ago and they were using it as a camp
after the catholic- after the catholic church and a thirteen year old boy drown there in the pool,
no one knows how they say his spirit could be the one haunting the pool there's a certain spot
like on the east side of the pool that's cold. And the other version is that there was a nun who
had a baby. And she wanted to keep that baby and so when everybody-when all the nuns were
getting ready to sleep or something she decided to get her baby and run away with it and
manage to you know, wanted to keep her baby and so the head nun caught her and she started
chasing her. The innocent one is what we'll call her the innocent one with her baby an they
chased each other around the forest or the woods and when the innocent nun got, you know a
few feet away she was able to hide her baby in bushes and runaway and she hoped that when
she'd come back her baby would still be there so when she realized that the head nun finally
gave up she came back to pick up her baby and her baby wasn't in the bushes anymore so she
went back to the camp and her fear became a true thing like her nightmare just became reality.
She found her baby flouting face down in the pool and so that could be another reason why the
pool has a cold spot. Due to that baby and or the nun who commended suicide after seeing her
baby there she drown herself
MT: Okay, now we were there just a week ago and Camila will you explain what happened
while we were there?
CT: What part?
MT: Just run them through everything
CT: Okay, so we first went up there after touring this like run down chimney which wasn't to
interesting. But we went to the pool like Silver described and she wouldn't tell us the cold spot
so we had to find out where we thought the cold spot was and it was pretty ligament all of us
claimed it was in the same spot. Except for Martin, he got really warm
( background laughter)
MT: For some reason I felt warm when I got there
CT: yeah, so anyway we kind of went around the pool, kinda checked it out then urn after that
we were proceeding to look through the rest of the houses but they were boarded up for
security reasons and so we went through the rest ofthe neighborhood ofthe cabins and
discovered urn. One of the larger cabins had a wraparound porch with screens and one of the
doors were open so we went through the door and urn we kind of went inside to look and see if
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we could go inside of the cabin but it was still boarded up um. We went around that area and
um some people like me claim that we heard noises but we still haven't verified that um but its
all in the video and um after we weren't really interested the fact that it was closed we exited
out of one of the, it was randomly swinging doors and we visited the "fake" grave site and um
then we went um to look at the rest ofthe cabins at the end ofthe hill and um all ofthem were
closed at the top except when we went around one of the last cabins um it was like a beautiful
mint green cabin it was pretty cool they all had really cool designs and the architect was really
inspired just I don't know simple designed it was really beautiful so it's kinda sad that it has-has
a depressing story and kind of bad mantra with it because no one could really visit it I guess
'true grandeur' anyways so we went around that and it turns out the basement, it didn't have a
door just had like a hole through the cement and um I guess you could say was it like trails
siting like the stuff that locks the end of the house to the- to the floor? That stuff it was under
the porch so 'we decided it would be really smart to go under there and take a tour'
(sa rcastica lIy)
SP: we were hoping that somehow; well before- before it was all boarded up um like all the
doors were busted down and so; um before I went with you guys there was um we found our
way from the basement up to the stairs and I mean nothing was boarded up so, that's what we
were kind of hoping for (laugh)
CT: um hm yeah
MT: and we found something else instead though
SP: we did ( still laughing )
CT: yeah, uh we went in it was really creepy and some people were kind of wussy but you know
we at least got some footage anyways we went in and it was; with some of the lights we were
able to see where, what kind of rooms were in the basement it was just a cellar and a food
storage area; Obviously they were empty and then there was is one room that had uh. (small
pause) that had a shelf and uh coat hanger bar and on the shelf uh was a open uh, it was closed
I think. It was open
SP: it was open, I lost the page. Oh my gosh (laughing)
CT: Oh my gosh I wonder what page it would be interesting to know what page It was on cause
it was a child's bible and it was open, we don't remember what page it was open at but um; and
then there was like a short challis I guess used as like a candle holder but it obviously didn't fit
the candle and the candle was red and then there was a nail on the c-on the - on the wall and a
rope tied to the nail that was tied in a nus on a bear and the bear- and the bear was mutilated
in the eyes, both of the eyes were pulled out whatever, plastic button whatever they were both
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out and stuffing was leaking out him the same with the neck-part of the neck that was on the
nus was also ripped and then urn. Going vertically there was a cut in the stomach and it was just
kind of creepy to see a mutilated bear that like an open pair, it was like an open scripture and
then a candle so we went in there and we kind of creped out well actually we went in there
twice. First time we got scared and we freaked ( brief moment with Silver) Second time we just
took in and get out and then urn. We decided to take a tour of the rest of it urn so were going
through the cellar kind of like backtracking if you were to go through the front door but
obviously it'd be the end ofthe tour ofthe house so we were at the end and we were going up
and it seemed like there was a dead end cause its really, really small in these sort of houses I'm
guessing if they're built in the early 1900's they still had small- small construction guidelines
and they're more building permits really didn't have like fire safety restrictions, so everythings
really small and urn instead of finding a dead end we turned the corner we all kind of creped
out because we were getting actually into the house and it was gonna be a realistic tour urn and
then we found that there was stars at the- at the - at the- at the turn of the corner of the wall I
guess and there were tinny and really steep and they went around a corner so they would be
like half of a spiral staircase obviously not as urn, grand I guess and so we're going up and we're
wondering if we could go through because at the top of the stars was a door. And so I had
luckily been the front; not; (laugh) and I had the flash light at least and so. Was it just me you
and Nick
SP:yeah, Yeah
CT: yeah, just us three anyway so this big huge party of children of three (laughing) so secure
anyway so we're going up and I flashed the light through the door and the door was open a
crack and I could see some graffiti and I was curious as to what it was because most times
people have swear words or do not enter or random I guess you could say as straight as you can
and frankly as you can like pictures of genitalia nasty stuff so anyway I was thinking it was one
of those things cause I've heard of that before and um instead I saw half of a pentagram and it
wasn't just a star pentagram or upside down stars because you could also draw a devil goat
face inside of it and do a whole satanic ritual with it so it kind of creped me out and in any kind
of situation when you're going in a unknown everybody feels really scared and there reallythere
senses when you know you can't- you can't see very well your other senses are high end a
lot more and its one of those six sense tale tale sign when you just don't feel good it's a cold
chill feeling and you're like dude let's just get out of here so after seeing that sign I was like
yupp uhm not going up there not unless there was a big crew of people and it was like some
documentary and we had these big bal-bulky cameras than it'd be fine but .
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SP: yeah you know and I was reviewing um the video I took while you were going up. You
yourself before even seeing the graffiti or anything you were like I guys I don't feel good I I was
like are you sure? You were like yeah I don't feel good.
CT: oh eah, I was like I don't wanna be a wuss or anything but I don't feel good.
SP: yeah, and once you looked at it you were like yeah there's not there's not good signs up
there
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CT: yeah that's right not good I was like guys let's just stop. Yeah, so after seeing that I um I
don't like feeling scared a lot because I've gotten over it I guess you could say; after watching so
many scary movies you don't get scared sometimes I guess.
SP:yeah
CT: But in this situation I was pretty scared because my adrenalin was kinda rushing through
my veins. But I was trying to like keep it chill you know- like keep it chill
SP: (laughing) yeah you didn't look scared like
CT: that's what I was trying to do like you know I was trying to keep it together I didn't wanna
run out and scream and scare everybody. So I was like okay you know just breathe let's get out
of here
SP: I kinda felt like that though cause when I first saw the teddy bear
CT: and your like ahh.
SP: I was like guys this isn't
CT: and you ran out oh my gosh
MT: and as we were running out I bumped my foot and everybody runs out
( moment of laughter)
SP: one simple little noise and this whole thing
CT: well its cause I was like looking at it and um I don't know If I could say it in this audio (
looking over at Martin)
(Martin gives a nod yes)
MT: you can
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CT: but umm the bear- the symbols with the bear reminds me of masonic rituals and so I was
just curious as to what it was but you guys hadn't heard of that before and so, I don't know If
you had heard of it you probably would've heard urn a bias pers- like a bias perspective as well
and I was just- I just wanted to see what it was like and what they had in there and stuff and so
when we shon-when we shined the light on it you were so scared like oh my gosh! What is
that?
SP: you know at first I was; I first noticed the teddy bear and I was like guys this isn't normal
cause at first you know in the process ofthe mind it's like oh someone's trying to scare you
know trying to scare you. But once I looked at the shelf I saw a bible and a candle and that's
whenl~artedhea~ngout.
CT: yeah because you - and then we thought it was blood earlier to and it was actually just
candle wax so I'm guessing they were trying to read the bible with the candle which would
make sense ritualistically but urn
SP: who would go in there by themselves though, I wouldn't dare do anything like that
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CT: well if- I don't know I guess if it's abandoned and you wanna practice something that not a
lot of people agree with urn, you do it alone. Or maybe if there intent was to be alone to be
more satanic or whatever but I don't know you can't really judge that because mas-masonry is
kind of an obscure ritual not a lot of people know about they just know that it's either good or
bad. But it can kinda go in-between because like the mutilation we saw on the bear that wasn't
right.
MT: that was not normal
SP: that was not
CT: the different symbolism with the neck the throat and the gut makes sense with masonry urn
and then also the candle and anyway.
SP: well yet again they were no demonic symbols
CT: besides upstairs if- if my fear was right but I'm like oh my gosh I sees nothing but anyways
that was- that was pretty much it and after we kind of left were like okay we're good lets just;
and it wasn't it was barley even twilight it wasn't even like (both CT & SP) 'dark' and so I'm like
dude I'm glad we really didn't go at the dark or else things would've been so much more high
end and we would've freaked out; cause you were even saying when we were entering the
whole cabin complex it really doesn't feel that scary you know I kinda just feel like a chill. You
• didn't feel (brief pause) I guess your adrenalin pumping as much as it had the other ten times.
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SP: yeah, well actually I'd say my first five times (mumble) but the weird thing is like every timeevery
time I go there's always bound to be that one that one point where it's the depression
feeling that last a few seconds then leaves but like the first time the vary first time I went
(pause) urn (pause) I was- I was terrified I was so scared urn. It was actually my first time going
in a haunted place and uh urn after we were done, like I started feeling like all my energy just
going down that's the weird thing to because four of my friends entered the red cabin right
next to the pool and it was three guys and one girl and .. as soon as she stepped on the door
step urn her and my other friend freaked out, looked at each other and were like 'did you hear
that' and they both said it- it was funny they were like 'yeah' and so they both ran out and so
the other two that were in there ran out and uh and I was outside. I was like guys what's going
on-whats going on? And there like 'oh we heard something' and the other two that were in
there were like yeah 'we didn't hear anything you guys are tripping' later on through the day
we went to first dam and we started reviewing the video and clearly it was-it was recorded on
an ipod and you could clearly hear a woman in the background that sounded like she was crying
CT: oh was this the video you should me later?
SP: Maybe
CT: perhaps I think oh yeah
SP: but yeah she sounded really sad and uh it was just like (pause) I don't know how to explain
it - it was just a short amount of time but by then when we were reviewing everything I just felt
dead I felt drown like drown out of energy they were all joking around they were like 'oh the
spirits must have gotten your energy"
CT: oh yeah, that must have been true though cause maybe yeah.
MT: Actually while we were there I felt super light headed so
CT: Are you serious?
MT: yeah
SP: I'm telling you you're always bound to feel or hear something
CT: yeah, in my case what the heck?
SP: you're like woe I hear something
CT: and then I was like okay chill out, it could've been the wind
• MT: wait so what was the sound that you heard? (speaking to Camila)
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CT: I heard the first sound urn the audio that I took with the video captured the same sound
twice so it was basically reputation but I heard "inside inside" but it was such a faint whisper I I
thought I was insane and I thought oh maybe it's the video recording you and your cousin
SP: and that's weird though, that's the weird thing I was like guys we cant go inside its boarded
up in a few minutes later I mean a few seconds later you hear that
CT: uh hm yeah I know
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SP: actually when we were there my first time the girl that heard the moan not the moan. The
cry yeah the sad sigh urn we were in that cabin and we heard a thing shes like 'guys I see a man
sitting by the fireplace' and she ran out. We didn't see anything we didn't capture anything in
that but I find- I find it kinda interesting how her point of seeing a guy sitting next to the
fireplace and your point of hearing the 'inside'
CT: yeah but it was really faint to and I thought I was mor- when I was there it didn't sound as
faint as it sounds on the video recording it sounded like anybody whispering during a test
SP: like they were next to you?
CT: yeah, and it wasn't as soft either it was like a sharp whisper and so I thought maybe it like
when you play back a video on not like the most expensive video camera you have it sounds
kinda like sharp and kinda like small and then when nobody; I looked behind me and all the rest
of our group were taking a video
SP: in front of you
CT: and they were still currently doing it then I realized nothing was playing back and 1- I waited
a minute longer to see if anything happened and then I was like dude I don't feel good and then
I was like what the heck. Did you guys hear that and then I was like I'm insane and then when I
later heard it like I was replying it urn the next day cause that night I went to bed and I was like
I'm not gonna play that urn I wanna go to bed; cause so many times I've watched movies in my
room and then I'm like freaked out because I'm alone obviously it's just my room anyways so
yeah urn it was right before we had gone on a hike as a family so my sisters were there with me
and they were listening to it and urn I didn't hear it actually the first time and there like wait did
you hear that wait go back. I'm like wait did you guys hear that too than? And there like yeah
we heard some kind of whisper and so I was like so I'm not insane and urn so we played it back
and it was the said twice but it was faint I guess "You have to have special be really special to
hear it" no I don't know but I guess It does explain cause my sister Naomi has a really really
good sense of hearing like when I'm eating food she tells me not to 'chomp' like I'm eating
normally and you know when you're eating cereal whatever and you hear it? She hates that
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sound and like anything she'll be like did you hear that? And she is the worst for paranoia like
anything, loh my gosh did you hear that?' anyway so that explains how she could hear it I guess
a lot better than I could when we played the video still I don't know just kind of interesting to
have experienced
MT: it's still kind of creepy but what was the practice with the bear?
CT: the practice with the bear is a masonic ritual according to; I'm not a professional at all 1- I'm
just; I've been interested in what's going on with different kinds of practices whatever and I
guess I could say when I started reading urn Dan Brown's da Vinci code, The lost symbol. Other
ones he's written, there all really full of syb-sy- like symbology and urn different kinds of I guess
you could say urn motives of symbols like different kinds of patterns and how symbols kinda
repeat itself through history and urn I was interested after I was reading it because he was
talking about how the Masons are kind of un-un- kinda- not under privileged cause most of the
really rich bureaucrats are Masons and it's kind of like this brotherhood and each time- the
whole point of going in this brotherhood is kinda like when you're sorority or a- what's the
other one called? There's like a female and male one, what's the other one called? Sorority and
SP: oh I have no clue
CT: it's like- like- it's like the is it an F? I think it F anyway those little clubs you go into when
you're in collage and urn anyway so the whole point is to kinda get in the group where you can
kinda be friends with them and the other point is especially in Masonry is to learn urn urn they
call themselves secrets because urn once you learn them you're not supposed to tell anybody
about it and its really strangely tied to Christianity which explains the open bible uh that's really
interesting I really wanna know what it was open to cause it'd be really interesting to find out
SP:yeah
CT: anyways so urn according to like what's been given by them and what's been linked by
people who've been in them it's what they do sort of thing kind of exposed them is that they do
different rituals kind of like when you get into a club and you get blind folded or something go
through these different tests but some oftheir symbology if you tell where you've learned the
secrets to other people urn you symbolically cut your throat, urn cut your stomach and I think
with the eyes I still haven't remembered exactly what part of the eyes but I'm guessing just
cause eyes are one of the main things we use in life as our sight and (Silver laughs in
background)
CT: what? What's so funny dude?
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SP: sorry
CT: anyways I'm not really sure with the eyes though because lots of times the eyes have a
symbolic meaning as what you see with your eyes like that's the whole thing
SP: isn't it like you decide to go bind if you tell a secret?
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CT: yeah, like they'll cut your eyes but the whole point of the eye is besides your hearing and
your smell I guess your eye sight is like one of the most things we use to and everyday like any
kind ofthing is like 'oh I saw it' but you trust me like you know so I'm guessing it's like one of
those things one of those senses you use the most so part of that whole ritual is if you tell the
secret they'll cut your eyes out I'm not- I don't know - I don't know if it's progressive order
each secret you tell like oh my eyes are cut out I'm gonna tell another secret or if they do it all
at once. I don't know. I'm not really sure but that kinda interested me and then that sort of
thing but I'm not an expert at all so I don't even know anyway that's alii know
MT: now just- With me I don't know I just kinda see that as see no evil hear no evil for some
reason
CT:yeah,yeah
SP: that's so true
CT: that makes sense
MT: cause its just if you see something I guess then without eyes you wouldn't be able to see
anything anymore so that's kinda creepy
CT: creepy stuff in the basement
MT: just don't go around fallowing into basements anymore
CT: yeah, kick the door open that's a lot better
SP: there you go
(laughing)
MT: im pretty sure if you kick the door open you're gonna find a super surprise
SP: a big surprise.
CT: a dead body or something
MT: something like that
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Settling that bet on St. Anne’s retreat
To the editor:
Once again I read the Herald Journal and find myself disgusted with some of the “prominent members of the local community!” Isn’t it sad that we taxpayers employ a dedicated police force to protect us and even though it may mean the loss of their own lives, they are willing and eager to serve only to have an officer of the court tell the public on the front page that the crime is approved by her because she did it to [too].
Ms. Demler, I am one of those “middle aged” “old –time Cache residents” that you’re laying bets on, and you’re not a winner! Not only did I not violate the property rights of St. Anne’s, but the group of friends I ran with didn’t either. Most of us were to [too] busy working to have the time for such nonsense, not to mention the fact that we were raised such that we didn’t go looking for trouble. I thank God every day for the hard-working, valiant, honest parents that taught me right from wrong! Not only did they teach me to respect others property rights but that we as fellow residents have a responsibility to watch over and protect our neighbor’s property rights.
I don’t condone the extent to which the guards allegedly carried out their duties, for which I am sure they are going to pay. However, Deputy Stauffer was correct when he stated that the trespass through posted fences and gates has been underplayed. “Obviously, someone didn’t want them on their property” was made very evident by the property owner. These teen-agers are all old enough to have known before hand that this was wrong, yet they chose to jump into the fire anyway. This time the fire was hot and they got burned. They should receive there [their] proper justice as will the guards. As the old saying goes “kids will be kids.” We can hold no malice towards them as they learn from their mistakes, but they must learn.
You, Ms. Demler, are a totally different case! You are supposed to be an educated officer of the court. The fact that you condone a crime that over time has cost a property owner more that [than] $1000,000 really rubs a saddle sore! Maybe if the $100,000 damage was to your house you would feel differently. We as parents need all the help we can get to raise teen-agers in this corrupt world. How do we explain to our teen-agers the consequences for violating the moral law, which includes honesty, or the civil law when an attorney at law justifies a crime because it was just for thrills? Isn’t that why Ted Bundy raped and murdered women? I know that attorney’s [attorneys] make their living from gray areas, but that fence and those signs were very black and white.
Ms. Demler, I’ve checked my records and neither I nor my business have ever hired you, so please refrain from speaking for “everybody” who is an “old time Cache resident.” This old-timer likes to speak for himself.
Reed Wallentine
Lewiston
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Local resident expresses opinion in the Herald Journal.
Settling that bet on St. Anne’s retreat
To the editor:
Once again I read the Herald Journal and find myself disgusted with some of the “prominent members of the local community!” Isn’t it sad that we taxpayers employ a dedicated police force to protect us and even though it may mean the loss of their own lives, they are willing and eager to serve only to have an officer of the court tell the public on the front page that the crime is approved by her because she did it to [too].
Ms. Demler, I am one of those “middle aged” “old -time Cache residents” that you’re laying bets on, and you’re not a winner! Not only did I not violate the property rights of St. Anne’s, but the group of friends I ran with didn’t either. Most of us were to [too] busy working to have the time for such nonsense, not to mention the fact that we were raised such that we didn’t go looking for trouble. I thank God every day for the hard-working, valiant, honest parents that taught me right from wrong! Not only did they teach me to respect others property rights but that we as fellow residents have a responsibility to watch over and protect our neighbor’s property rights.
I don’t condone the extent to which the guards allegedly carried out their duties, for which I am sure they are going to pay. However, Deputy Stauffer was correct when he stated that the trespass through posted fences and gates has been underplayed. “Obviously, someone didn’t want them on their property” was made very evident by the property owner. These teen-agers are all old enough to have known before hand that this was wrong, yet they chose to jump into the fire anyway. This time the fire was hot and they got burned. They should receive there [their] proper justice as will the guards. As the old saying goes “kids will be kids.” We can hold no malice towards them as they learn from their mistakes, but they must learn.
You, Ms. Demler, are a totally different case! You are supposed to be an educated officer of the court. The fact that you condone a crime that over time has cost a property owner more that [than] $1000,000 really rubs a saddle sore! Maybe if the $100,000 damage was to your house you would feel differently. We as parents need all the help we can get to raise teen-agers in this corrupt world. How do we explain to our teen-agers the consequences for violating the moral law, which includes honesty, or the civil law when an attorney at law justifies a crime because it was just for thrills? Isn’t that why Ted Bundy raped and murdered women? I know that attorney’s [attorneys] make their living from gray areas, but that fence and those signs were very black and white.
Ms. Demler, I’ve checked my records and neither I nor my business have ever hired you, so please refrain from speaking for “everybody” who is an “old time Cache resident.” This old-timer likes to speak for himself.
Reed Wallentine
Lewiston
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St. Anne’s letters rabidly judgmental
To the editor:
I applaud April Anderson for her intelligent and merciful letter on the subject of the St. Anne’s retreat trespassing incident (Tuesday, Nov. 4). If any readers missed her latter, it would be worth their while to look back through their newspapers and find it.
I, too, have been astonished at how many of the people who have written letters on this subject have been so rabidly judgmental of the teen-agers and their parents. I hope they are just misinformed individuals, rather than the malevolent ones they appear to be in print.
I have the feeling that if they had been standing around the adulteress when Jesus said, “He who is without sin among you, let him vast the first stone,” (St. John, Chapter 8) she would have been dead.
Nancy Jensen
Logan
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St. Anne’s letters rabidly judgmental
To the editor:
I applaud April Anderson for her intelligent and merciful letter on the subject of the St. Anne’s retreat trespassing incident (Tuesday, Nov. 4). If any readers missed her latter, it would be worth their while to look back through their newspapers and find it.
I, too, have been astonished at how many of the people who have written letters on this subject have been so rabidly judgmental of the teen-agers and their parents. I hope they are just misinformed individuals, rather than the malevolent ones they appear to be in print.
I have the feeling that if they had been standing around the adulteress when Jesus said, “He who is without sin among you, let him vast the first stone,” (St. John, Chapter 8) she would have been dead.
Nancy Jensen
Logan
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St. Anne’s opinions formed without facts
To the editor:
Much has been said about the incident at St. Anne’s retreat concerning the kids and their parents. I am amazed at the number of parents who have commented about this issue, especially those who have done so without all the facts.
The fact is these kids are very good kids and have very good parents and for you to judge them as you have done is unfair. Fact-These kids know they have done wrong and so do the parents. No one “whined” to the authorities to try to get anyone off. The landowners dropped the charges completely on their own for whatever reason they had. In fact, they felt bad for what had happened to them and the landowners have actually met with these kids and their parents and he has commented on what great kids they are.
Fact-The parents only went to the authorities to try and stop these men from continuing this kind of action again, and maybe against your kids. And you can’t convince me that just because you taught them it will prevent your youth from making any mistakes or to grow through their teen-age years being perfect. If so, I want a leaf from your book. If you think we condoned their action you’re completely mistaken.
Fact-The kids showed up around 9, not in the middle of the night as so many of you think. Fact-they showed up in small groups of 2, 4, and 6 not a large group of 30 with intent to do vandalism and attack poor Mr. Jeppson. In their pockets they had gum and chapstick, hardly any attack tools.
Fact-The kids were attacked, some not even on the property yet, and were taken by gunpoint to the pool, tied up etc. You know the rest of the story. This wasn’t a necessary protection tactic, it was a very cruel one that they laughed and joked about. He told them “it was a great adrenaline rush and to run because they would love to shoot their legs off.” If this is proper treatment for citizens to inflect on trespassers, what should we (as citizens) do to other Cache Valley people who speed, beat their children or their wife, or even avoid child support. They also have broken the law and made a mistake. Is it their parents fault (maybe) and should we tie them up and shoot at them? I would hope not.
I think as parents aw need to help offer the youth wholesome activities and not sit around and judge these parents on who has taught their kids the best and most valuable lessons.
Sue Griffin
Newton
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Locals responding to the St. Anne's retreat trespassing incident giving their version of the facts.
St. Anne’s opinions formed without facts
To the editor:
Much has been said about the incident at St. Anne’s retreat concerning the kids and their parents. I am amazed at the number of parents who have commented about this issue, especially those who have done so without all the facts.
The fact is these kids are very good kids and have very good parents and for you to judge them as you have done is unfair. Fact-These kids know they have done wrong and so do the parents. No one “whined” to the authorities to try to get anyone off. The landowners dropped the charges completely on their own for whatever reason they had. In fact, they felt bad for what had happened to them and the landowners have actually met with these kids and their parents and he has commented on what great kids they are.
Fact-The parents only went to the authorities to try and stop these men from continuing this kind of action again, and maybe against your kids. And you can’t convince me that just because you taught them it will prevent your youth from making any mistakes or to grow through their teen-age years being perfect. If so, I want a leaf from your book. If you think we condoned their action you’re completely mistaken.
Fact-The kids showed up around 9, not in the middle of the night as so many of you think. Fact-they showed up in small groups of 2, 4, and 6 not a large group of 30 with intent to do vandalism and attack poor Mr. Jeppson. In their pockets they had gum and chapstick, hardly any attack tools.
Fact-The kids were attacked, some not even on the property yet, and were taken by gunpoint to the pool, tied up etc. You know the rest of the story. This wasn’t a necessary protection tactic, it was a very cruel one that they laughed and joked about. He told them “it was a great adrenaline rush and to run because they would love to shoot their legs off.” If this is proper treatment for citizens to inflect on trespassers, what should we (as citizens) do to other Cache Valley people who speed, beat their children or their wife, or even avoid child support. They also have broken the law and made a mistake. Is it their parents fault (maybe) and should we tie them up and shoot at them? I would hope not.
I think as parents aw need to help offer the youth wholesome activities and not sit around and judge these parents on who has taught their kids the best and most valuable lessons.
Sue Griffin
Newton
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